Canada v USA v Europe v RoW--STARTED, PM YOUR GROUP MEMBERS!

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:55 am

ok, it is updated

Katya · Post by **Katya** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:03 pm

605418 finished, Europe won

jpcloet · Post by **jpcloet** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:49 pm

jpcloet defeats Evil Semp in game # 605470

Timminz · Post by **Timminz** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:10 pm

Timminz defeats Serbia

605413

freyme · Post by **freyme** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:31 pm

No problems--$Trader has joined. Just didn't realize he was out of town.

UCAbears · Post by **UCAbears** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:34 pm

has this already started?

BeakerWMA · Post by **BeakerWMA** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:16 pm

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:33 am

Just lost 605440. A really amazing game. It went to round 19 and last cash in was 40!!! I got him down to 1 territory and a few turns later to 3 armies, but cards failed me in the decisive moments.

jpcloet · Post by **jpcloet** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:37 am

jplcoet defeats Neutrino in game #605475

Tough fought 19 round game. Neutrino had me down to 2 men.

Canada goes 3-0 in group 7

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:38 am

spinwizard wrote:
Forza AZ wrote:I'm in for Europe

PS: What are the tiebreakers when 2 players are equal?
LMAO, knew it would be u that asks Forza . A 1v1 game between the tied players on the standard settings

And what is done when 3 players finish on 1 point? A 3 player game?

Elwar · Post by **Elwar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:48 am

The first player in alphabetical order is taken through. Symbols are ignored.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:30 am

lol, I think I will work out the rounds they took to win, the person with the least rounds goes through, same for 1v1

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:58 am

It has been updated, this is my solution to the tieing system-
2 player tie for 2nd/3rd- the previous result between the players involved.
3 player tie for 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th-Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the lowest round difference comes second in the group.

I will keep updating it

Timminz · Post by **Timminz** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:05 am

Timminz defeats spinwizard in game 605411

But I think you might have figured that one out already.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:22 am

Timminz wrote:Timminz defeats spinwizard in game 605411

But I think you might have figured that one out already.

lol I am getting my ass kicked

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:28 am

i won bob hacket for europe. i am currently playing FATHARRY (row). the other one has not joined, i have pmed him.

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:32 pm

spinwizard wrote:It has been updated, this is my solution to the tieing system-
2 player tie for 2nd/3rd- the previous result between the players involved.

This is impossible. Only 2 way ties possible are for 1st/2nd place (both 2 points) and 3rd/4th place (both 1 point).

spinwizard wrote:3 player tie for 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th-Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the lowest round difference comes second in the group.

Well, then I am eliminated after my 19 round game with Elwar.

Seems a bit unfair. I only lost after 19 rounds (much "better" loss then most losses), and I'm punished for that. And also this rule was not there before the games started, so we could not act upon it.
I think a 3 way play-off game is the most fair.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:06 pm

Forza AZ wrote:
spinwizard wrote:It has been updated, this is my solution to the tieing system-
2 player tie for 2nd/3rd- the previous result between the players involved.
This is impossible. Only 2 way ties possible are for 1st/2nd place (both 2 points) and 3rd/4th place (both 1 point).

spinwizard wrote:3 player tie for 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th-Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the lowest round difference comes second in the group.
Well, then I am eliminated after my 19 round game with Elwar.
Seems a bit unfair. I only lost after 19 rounds (much "better" loss then most losses), and I'm punished for that. And also this rule was not there before the games started, so we could not act upon it.
I think a 3 way play-off game is the most fair.

We will cross that bridge when we come to it, the problem is that this is a 1v1 tourny, not a 3 player one

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:06 pm

spinwizard wrote: We will cross that bridge when we come to it, the problem is that this is a 1v1 tourny, not a 3 player one

Yes, that's true. A series between the 3 is also possible, but this can then give another tie off course. Maybe a random draw with 2 playing each other first and then the winner/loser playing the 3rd player:

-3 players tied for 1st
-2 players playing each other
-> winner to next round
-> loser playing the 3rd player
-winner of that game also to next round

-3 players tied for 2nd
-2 players playing each other
-> winner playing the 3rd player
-winner of that game to next round

Idea?

Forza AZ · Post by **Forza AZ** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:04 am

I won my last game 605441.

freyme 2-0
Elwar 1-1
Forza AZ 1-2
$Trader 0-1

Now I have to hope that freyme beats $Trader and that $Trader beats Elwar in the last 2 games, so we have a 3 way tie for 2nd spot.

DAZMCFC · Post by **DAZMCFC** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:34 am

i beat FATHARRY (row) for europe.

argos · Post by **argos** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:05 pm

game 605471
neutrino-argos
win argos

BeakerWMA · Post by **BeakerWMA** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:40 am

FYI: I am away till Sunday if any new games are setup.

wolfmaster · Post by **wolfmaster** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:27 am

Actually if change the order of the tie break rule and the rule a bit we could actually see who would go thru to the next group
For the 4 player group the result that would affected is
either that we have a tie in for 1st/2nd/3rd and tie for 2nd/3rd/4th
for example in our group 1
Timminz having 3 win is the winner of the group
He go thru to the next round
Serbia, Spinwizard and me is tie

spinwizard wrote: 3 player tie for 2nd/3rd/4th Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the lowest round difference comes second in the group

the rule could be change to
3 player tie Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the lowest round difference comes first

then Serbia and me is still tie on the lowest round difference, then if we use the following rule

spinwizard wrote: 2 player tie for 2nd/3rd- the previous result between the players involved.

Serbia win our match he go thru to the next round

If spinwizard want to address Forza AZ concern

Forza AZ wrote:Well, then I am eliminated after my 19 round game with Elwar. Seems a bit unfair. I only lost after 19 rounds (much "better" loss then most losses), and I'm punished for that.

the rule could be change to
3 player tie Round difference, the total rounds used to complete their games for each player, player with the Highest round difference comes first

then in my group
spinwizard go thru to the next round

Bad Speler · Post by **Bad Speler** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:07 pm

riggable won game 605434 vs resitnecdan
bad speler won 605435 vs blackadder

Canada v USA v Europe v RoW--STARTED, PM YOUR GROUP MEMBERS!

Do you mind if I play in this tourny?