Cat. Mafia Pain Killer & Kwanton WIN

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:06 am

Balsiefen wrote:Finally, this is what i was hopig for.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with aimless' lynching 3 people brigade (however, i've never played a cat. mafia before so this might be a mistake) the odds look good to start but thats the chance of hitting one mafia and killing two townies, very possibly power roles. If they roleclaim their dead that night anyway. I'm still sitting on the fence on this one, it would help if i knew how many townies are going to die in the night.

oh yea..

Unvote

Actually... it's the chance of not hitting three townies. Which includes everything from "hitting three scum" to "hitting the SK, the Cop, and the Doc".

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:29 am

Aimless wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Finally, this is what i was hopig for.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with aimless' lynching 3 people brigade (however, i've never played a cat. mafia before so this might be a mistake) the odds look good to start but thats the chance of hitting one mafia and killing two townies, very possibly power roles. If they roleclaim their dead that night anyway. I'm still sitting on the fence on this one, it would help if i knew how many townies are going to die in the night.

oh yea..

Unvote
Actually... it's the chance of not hitting three townies. Which includes everything from "hitting three scum" to "hitting the SK, the Cop, and the Doc".

yes but there is still a large chance of hitting 2 townies with a sizable one of hitting 3.

chessplaya · Post by **chessplaya** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:31 am

i am a mafia cop

what do i do now ?

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:48 am

chessplaya wrote:i am a mafia cop

what do i do now ?

get lynched

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:52 am

kwanton wrote:PCM: Not posting for several pages then coming up for air 4 minutes after your name is mentioned? Aimless's words:"the only times I have ever sat back and watched have been when I was scum"

Aimless: Meh. I think pushing especially hard is usually a scum tell. You can post a lot and fish for leads without pushing for lynches. Well on another note it is kinda sad to have 2 people be the life of the party in a 16 player game. I'm off soon. Good luck keeping up the conversation.

I'm not Aimless. And haven't been posting in ANY of my games. I'm always around, but never have anything to say.

Fircoal, STFU. I had a good reason to vote Chad and even if he was goofing off I think he took it too far.

Chess, at this point you walk away, because you aren't playing.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:13 am

Sorry for my current inactivity. I am undergoing a three day work training with little opportunity to surf. Will catch up asap if still alive.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:37 am

Ok well. PCM's story is believable since he's doing it in other games and ga7 confirms that. Either way Red Bull looks much more scummy. I wonder if he'll come back and explain himself....

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:58 am

kwanton wrote:Ok well. PCM's story is believable since he's doing it in other games and ga7 confirms that. Either way Red Bull looks much more scummy. I wonder if he'll come back and explain himself....

yes in fact i will but after i say this

pcm for some reason i have been the same way lately ..... infact this is my only game for the last month

any way i am KEEPING my vote on chad for now three reasons.

one. he spams the crap out of the thread wich kills any conversations

two. he was the one bandwagoning !!! look at his vote all his votes were for some one that already had atleast 1 vote on them {ficoal did this too but not to every one }

three. he agreed with fircoal on every thing and i dont believe they voted eachother did they

four. he DISSAPEARD after we started voting for him

done now

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:16 am

Meh I wrote that off as random spamming but you do make good points red bull. Unvote for now. Red Bull it still looked to me like you were submarining since that was your second post but now I want chad to explain himself.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:04 pm

kwanton wrote:Meh I wrote that off as random spamming but you do make good points red bull. Unvote for now. Red Bull it still looked to me like you were submarining since that was your second post but now I want chad to explain himself.

yea i dont want to spam ... and i have not posted much beacuse there is really nothing to post about ...

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:10 pm

Balsiefen wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Finally, this is what i was hopig for.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with aimless' lynching 3 people brigade (however, i've never played a cat. mafia before so this might be a mistake) the odds look good to start but thats the chance of hitting one mafia and killing two townies, very possibly power roles. If they roleclaim their dead that night anyway. I'm still sitting on the fence on this one, it would help if i knew how many townies are going to die in the night.

oh yea..

Unvote
Actually... it's the chance of not hitting three townies. Which includes everything from "hitting three scum" to "hitting the SK, the Cop, and the Doc".
yes but there is still a large chance of hitting 2 townies with a sizable one of hitting 3.

In fact, hitting two townies and one scum is the most likely outcome of lynching three players (assuming the scum density is as I think it is). I fail to see why this is a drawback, unless you happen to be a scum. Townies (even power roles) are expendable. Their purpose in life is to die in the pursuit of scum. It's how the town wins.

That you seem to think two townies for one scum is not a fair trade makes me rather suspicious of you.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:39 pm

Quickly read through it all.
Unvote Balsiefen

Vote Chad. Bit of a guess, but his repeated bandwagoning seems the best clue so far.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:43 pm

kwanton wrote:Going away I will soon be.
So little of me you will see.
But I'll be gone for just one day.
Man that fircoal is really gay
This is just a minor decree.

No problem far as I can see
So while I'm gone be kind to me.
L-O-L I called fircoal gay!
Going away......

I'm thirsty. I'll get some HI-c!
Mmmmmm. Delicious Hi-c for me!
When I get back please tell me "Hey-
We lynched several scum today"
Be right back. Now I have to pee.

Bah! The poetry is getting everywhere! See what you've done to me?! Yeah anyway I'll be gone on the 12th and coming back on the 13th. No internet connection for one day. Possibly 2 at most. Since this is catastrophe this might even finish before then but I doubt it. O well.

After the sun rose
A drink spilled on my keyboard
... Is Firecoal gay?

Pain Killer · Post by **Pain Killer** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:07 pm

The odd's presented by aimless are pretty interresting and finding the scum by lynching 3 people seem's a good risk. So let's just see what happens vote chad

Also sorry for not posting much besides work and getting drunk haven't really much time left. I'll try to post regulary

ga7 wrote: After the sun rose
A drink spilled on my keyboard
... Is Firecoal gay?

Does this make Pikachu a gay pokemon?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:43 pm

red bull wrote: any way i am KEEPING my vote on chad for now three reasons.

one. he spams the crap out of the thread wich kills any conversations

two. he was the one bandwagoning !!! look at his vote all his votes were for some one that already had atleast 1 vote on them {ficoal did this too but not to every one }

three. he agreed with fircoal on every thing and i dont believe they voted eachother did they

four. he DISSAPEARD after we started voting for him

1. WHEN THERE IS CONVERSATIONS! HAVE YOU HEARD ANY DURING THE SPAM! NO!

2. Actually I did it for certain random comments, I'm not sure about him.

3. I voted him, before.

4. The only real scummy thing he's done.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:44 pm

Next person to call me gay, will be getting hit with my hammer.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:45 pm

sufu queer boy

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:16 pm

Vote Count 9 needed for lynch

5 Chad22342 (Pancake, red bull, Aimless, Koesen, Pain Killer )
2 ga7 ( Spin, Mandy)
1 mandalorian2298 (Spin)
1 kwanton (Firth)
1 Fircoal (Exile)
1 PancakeMix (Fircoal)

Balsiefen
red bull
skoffin
Aimless
firth4eva
cmckinney
The1Exile
Koesen
Pain Killer
spinwizard

Dead
0oJakeo0 Votes 9 (LSUTigerJosh aka MODKILL)

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:17 pm

internet has been down so i did not post

fos aimless ga7 fircoal and chad

vote fircoal

he stuck up for chad almost instantly

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:26 pm

firth you have to unvote

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:35 pm

red bull wrote: one. he spams the crap out of the thread wich kills any conversations

two. he was the one bandwagoning !!! look at his vote all his votes were for some one that already had atleast 1 vote on them {ficoal did this too but not to every one }

three. he agreed with fircoal on every thing and i dont believe they voted eachother did they

four. he DISSAPEARD after we started voting for him

done now

Actually, 2. & 3. are pretty inaccurate. Chad never putted the third vote on someone as far as I can make out of the vote avalanche, and often put the first. He voted and unvoted Fircoal several times, same with Fircoal's votes. 4. is correct, but he even disappeared from the game he's modding.

I have a good feeling about this, so vote red bull I don't think you're just skimming but making up things to restart an easy bandwaggon.

Pain Killer · Post by **Pain Killer** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:07 pm

Fircoal wrote:Next person to call me gay, will be getting hit with my hammer.

i'm not calling you gay. in fact i am calling you gay, little homosexual electrical mouse

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:08 pm

Aimless wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
Aimless wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Finally, this is what i was hopig for.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with aimless' lynching 3 people brigade (however, i've never played a cat. mafia before so this might be a mistake) the odds look good to start but thats the chance of hitting one mafia and killing two townies, very possibly power roles. If they roleclaim their dead that night anyway. I'm still sitting on the fence on this one, it would help if i knew how many townies are going to die in the night.

oh yea..

Unvote
Actually... it's the chance of not hitting three townies. Which includes everything from "hitting three scum" to "hitting the SK, the Cop, and the Doc".
yes but there is still a large chance of hitting 2 townies with a sizable one of hitting 3.
In fact, hitting two townies and one scum is the most likely outcome of lynching three players (assuming the scum density is as I think it is). I fail to see why this is a drawback, unless you happen to be a scum. Townies (even power roles) are expendable. Their purpose in life is to die in the pursuit of scum. It's how the town wins.

That you seem to think two townies for one scum is not a fair trade makes me rather suspicious of you.

I guess your right

my concern was this beitng a catastrophe mafia, i have no idia how many people will get nightkilled, it is almost certain however that these will all be townies. if we lose 2/3 townies to lynching then another 3/4 to mafia were gonna be pretty screwed.

especially if a mafia uses his knowlige to skew to votes away from his team as is quite possible

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:27 pm

Balsiefen wrote:my concern was this beitng a catastrophe mafia, i have no idia how many people will get nightkilled, it is almost certain however that these will all be townies. if we lose 2/3 townies to lynching then another 3/4 to mafia were gonna be pretty screwed.

We will be more screwed if we wind up not lynching anyone, and then losing 3-4 townies at night.

Lynches always have a chance of hitting scum. Night kills (unless we have a vig, or multiple scum who cross kill) will generally never hit scum. You can't rely on night kills to win the game; you must lynch.

Thus, it's pretty clear to me that the more often the town uses its lynch power, the better off we are. However, we still need to learn role information on a least a few players to get our bearings, so we have to let the game go to night at least once. If possible, I would like to try to end this game on day three or day four - the longer we let it run, the better odds the scum have.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:06 pm

firth4eva wrote:internet has been down so i did not post

fos aimless ga7 fircoal and chad

vote fircoal

he stuck up for chad almost instantly

because I want to save a townie. Wouldn't you? If I know that something isn't true, then why not say it, and your other FOses are just the main talkers, and or spammers.

Fos: FIrth