Cat. Mafia Pain Killer & Kwanton WIN

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:15 pm

Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:35 pm

pancakemix wrote:Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.

lol seriousy i am a sk and i want to help the town here lol

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:39 pm

red bull wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.
lol seriousy i am a sk and i want to help the town here lol

You WANT to lose the game? I don't buy that at all.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:29 am

New deadline is Sunday at 120am CST

Vote Count 8 needed for lynch
4 red bull (ga7, Mandy, Aimless, skoffin)
2 Fircoal (Exile, Koesen)
1 kwanton (Firth)

ga7
PancakeMix
mandalorian2298
Balsiefen
skoffin
Aimless
firth4eva
cmckinney
The1Exile
Koesen
Pain Killer
spinwizard

Dead
Chad22342 (UNKNOWN TIL NIGHT 1) 9 votes (Pancake, red bull, Aimless, Koesen, Pain Killer,Fircoal, ga7, kwanton,Spin ) (firth's and skoffin's vote came too late)
0oJakeo0 Votes 9 (LSUTigerJosh aka MODKILL)

Koeson & Firth failed to unvote to vote Red Bull.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:38 am

pancakemix wrote:
red bull wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.
lol seriousy i am a sk and i want to help the town here lol
You WANT to lose the game? I don't buy that at all.

I do, I've thought of the idea of claim a neutral role like I am, and just thinking in my head, that I've won if the town won, because I'm adjusted town. But then again that's me, and I'm well... ME!

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:44 am

pancakemix wrote:Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.

This being catastrophe mafia, the game is unlikely to end if we lynch the jester. As such a role would prove to be a distraction at any rate, even assuming that red bull were a jester I would prefer to simply lynch him and move on to the next target.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:58 am

josh said something about automatic unvotes for all.
but anyway claiming sk is stupid. As much as he supports the town he can not win if we do so there is nothing in it for him.

unvote vote red bull

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:53 am

Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:45 am

Balsiefen wrote:Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim

why vote for him if you think mafia are going to kill him?
fos balsiefan

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:06 am

firth4eva wrote:As much as he supports the town he can not win if we do so there is nothing in it for him.

unvote vote red bull

If we lynch him then he can't help the town either, nor can he win.

It reminds me of my mafia in the game wtih the SK cult... we couldn't kill, there was only me left, so I volunteered to help the town. The SK cult killed me.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:23 am

The1exile wrote:
firth4eva wrote:As much as he supports the town he can not win if we do so there is nothing in it for him.

unvote vote red bull
If we lynch him then he can't help the town either, nor can he win.

It reminds me of my mafia in the game wtih the SK cult... we couldn't kill, there was only me left, so I volunteered to help the town. The SK cult killed me.

Aimless wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Vote Count?

I'm not sure on Red Bull. He claimed SK, but he could be a jester. The only other person who ever claimed SK in history is Hitman, and he's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not going to vote Red Bull. Too iffy for me.
This being catastrophe mafia, the game is unlikely to end if we lynch the jester. As such a role would prove to be a distraction at any rate, even assuming that red bull were a jester I would prefer to simply lynch him and move on to the next target.

The key word there is unlikely. If there's anything I've learned, it's expect the unexpected and take no one by there word. Perhaps those aren't the best life lessons, but they hold true here.

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:27 am

firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim
why vote for him if you think mafia are going to kill him?
fos balsiefan

With this many votes on him the mafia will let him live and wait for him to get lynched tomorrow when they can pass the blaim foor whoever they killed onto him. If everyone takes him at his word and unvotes they will kill him to stop him working for town

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:03 am

unvote
Vote red bull

because he's either lying or an SK.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:36 am

firth4eva wrote:josh said something about automatic unvotes for all.
but anyway claiming sk is stupid. As much as he supports the town he can not win if we do so there is nothing in it for him.

unvote vote red bull

I said automatic unvotes for those that had legal and counted votes on the lynched. You didn't so you weren't unvoted.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:46 am

New deadline is Sunday at 120am CST

Vote Count 8 needed for lynch
7 red bull (ga7, Mandy, Aimless, skoffin.Firth, Balsiefen, Koesen )
1 Fircoal (Exile, )

kwanton
ga7
PancakeMix
mandalorian2298
Balsiefen
skoffin
Aimless
firth4eva
cmckinney
The1Exile
Koesen
Pain Killer
spinwizard

Dead
Chad22342 (UNKNOWN TIL NIGHT 1) 9 votes (Pancake, red bull, Aimless, Koesen, Pain Killer,Fircoal, ga7, kwanton,Spin ) (firth's and skoffin's vote came too late)
0oJakeo0 Votes 9 (LSUTigerJosh aka MODKILL)

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:12 am

Balsiefen wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim
why vote for him if you think mafia are going to kill him?
fos balsiefan
With this many votes on him the mafia will let him live and wait for him to get lynched tomorrow when they can pass the blaim foor whoever they killed onto him. If everyone takes him at his word and unvotes they will kill him to stop him working for town

wouldnt it be better for them to kill him than one of us

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:45 am

The1exile wrote:
firth4eva wrote:As much as he supports the town he can not win if we do so there is nothing in it for him.

unvote vote red bull
If we lynch him then he can't help the town either, nor can he win.

It reminds me of my mafia in the game wtih the SK cult... we couldn't kill, there was only me left, so I volunteered to help the town. The SK cult killed me.

THAT WAS MY GAME!

I got suspicious when I heard SK cult.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:35 am

firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim
why vote for him if you think mafia are going to kill him?
fos balsiefan
With this many votes on him the mafia will let him live and wait for him to get lynched tomorrow when they can pass the blaim foor whoever they killed onto him. If everyone takes him at his word and unvotes they will kill him to stop him working for town
wouldnt it be better for them to kill him than one of us

well if your going by that why dont you kill your vig too then

and i already told you just let me live for a while ..... and when there is only one kill a night thats not mafia then its only me killing so then kill me !!!!! come on guys ... i think i know who mafia is .....

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:58 pm

Wow a lot happened there =) Well, I'll read back but my first thoughts are that there's no reason to not believe this claim; but what strikes me as weird is that even if Red bull helps us and acts like a vig, he'll surely make a kill every night and we'd have more townies NKed ultimately. If there is one game where town doesn't need a vig it's this one, we can have several day lynches so why bother?
So I'll keep my vote, not because I don't trust you Red bull, just because there's no way you would hit scum every night and I think it's better having less NKs.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:00 pm

red bull wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:Okay, Vote Red Bull he may try to work for the town but another killer rolerunning about with no real loyalty to anyone cept himself is not what we need. Anyway, chances are mafia will kill him anyway tonight

I do belive his roleclaim, it sounds like he didn't want to claim vig in case the real vig said o no your not

If he was a joker he would have made buch better attempts to get himself lynched and mych earlyer, not just a last desperate roleclaim
why vote for him if you think mafia are going to kill him?
fos balsiefan
With this many votes on him the mafia will let him live and wait for him to get lynched tomorrow when they can pass the blaim foor whoever they killed onto him. If everyone takes him at his word and unvotes they will kill him to stop him working for town
wouldnt it be better for them to kill him than one of us
well if your going by that why dont you kill your vig too then and i already told you just let me live for a while ..... and when there is only one kill a night thats not mafia then its only me killing so then kill me !!!!! come on guys ... i think i know who mafia is .....

but you dont tell us?

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:23 pm

kwanton wrote:Bah I laugh at your definition of late. Try waking up 5 hours before you normally do to take a 3 hour car ride to college orientation and then waking up the same time the next day to walk around a whole campus.

Bah, that is nothing; I hadn't slept for 30+ hours at that time

The1exile wrote:If we lynch him then he can't help the town either, nor can he win.

It reminds me of my mafia in the game wtih the SK cult... we couldn't kill, there was only me left, so I volunteered to help the town. The SK cult killed me.

This makes me think a Cult might be there too, and SK cult doesn't sound good.

[quote="Balsiefen]With this many votes on him the mafia will let him live and wait for him to get lynched tomorrow when they can pass the blaim foor whoever they killed onto him. If everyone takes him at his word and unvotes they will kill him to stop him working for town[/quote]
Well I tend to agree there, I think the mafia is more likely to use this at their advantage than the opposite.

red bull wrote:wouldnt it be better for them to kill him than one of us[ well if your going by that why dont you kill your vig too then and i already told you just let me live for a while ..... and when there is only one kill a night thats not mafia then its only me killing so then kill me !!!!! come on guys ... i think i know who mafia is .....

Well, as I said in my previous post, at least we know the vig will really try to avoid townies and probably wouldn't kill every night; besides, I assume we already have a vig so why would we need an extra one? This being catastrophe mafia, town is better off trying to get scum during the day via multiple lynches. Besides, we rely solely on your judgement to NK scum, but the difference is you won't care if you hit town instead

My general feeling is that there is too many ways this could backfire on us. I'm less than convinced a SK could be ultimately useful to keep around, so...

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:05 pm

red bull wrote: i think i know who mafia is .....

If you really want to help town, give us all the names. Any action other than that means you are not really willing to help the town.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:10 pm

Koesen wrote:
red bull wrote: i think i know who mafia is .....
If you really want to help town, give us all the names. Any action other than that means you are not really willing to help the town.

just assumptions as to wh they are nothing solid ... and do you all know my powers as a vig i mean come one people dont you remember film nor game

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:18 pm

I agree with koesen and ga. If you are telling the truth then you need to gain our trust. Tell us who you think is mafia. I don't want to hammer but there's nothing for you to gain by helping town. Even if we let you live and you help us you could turn against us endgame and sway the favor towards the scum. You can't win by being pro-town. You have to kill townies. Wolf in sheep's clothing.....

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:28 pm

red bull wrote:
Koesen wrote:
red bull wrote: i think i know who mafia is .....
If you really want to help town, give us all the names. Any action other than that means you are not really willing to help the town.
just assumptions as to wh they are nothing solid ... and do you all know my powers as a vig i mean come one people dont you remember film nor game

If you only have assumptions, you're just as likely to kill town. Which harms us, but not you. You're not convincing me to unvote.

Why would you try to give the victory to somebody other than yourself?