Re-Inquisition Mafia - Heretics win!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:16 pm

is that a permanent replacement... your previous post said temp?

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:18 pm

true by Aimless post it sounds like a temp replacement but its a guarantee I guess that auto wasn't deliberately submarining.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:20 pm

So the two scenarios....

1. Vig killed Serb last night, cultee was upgraded to recruiter and recruited last night. Most likely 2 scum then now?

2. The cultee goon killed Serb last night, so didn't recruit, so most likely 1 scum then now.

Any other scenarios???

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:22 pm

Cult recruit (if they got powers still) and kill? Although that sounds a little over-powered.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:23 pm

nagerous wrote:true by Aimless post it sounds like a temp replacement but its a guarantee I guess that auto wasn't deliberately submarining.

no it just means that's Auto's too busy NOW to play, not before, hence my mention of his submarining after I saw he was replaced. However, I'll give him and his replacement the benefit of the doubt.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:24 pm

nagerous wrote:Cult recruit (if they got powers still) and kill? Although that sounds a little over-powered.

It's already been said that when a cult member is by himself, he can either recruit or kill. It's assumed he's by himself since 2 are gone and how the last game was set up.

XenCobra · Post by **XenCobra** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:27 pm

pancakemix wrote:Skoffin's role is from the first Inquisition game. If recruited by the cult, she becomes a janitor.

My role's like that too, but I'm a Little Girl, so I become a scum roleblocker.

I wouldn't have said anything if the cult leader were still alive and I wasn't 100% sure there was 1 scum group.

I'm leaning towards #1 for your theory's Wicked. We should watch out for them. But it is unlikely, due to how easy it will spot out.

I'm not going to even defend my self for a 3rd day. I've done it enough for the first 2 days. I'm going away for 3 days tomorrow. So, if by a miracle I don't get lynched, see ya soon.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:28 pm

Didn't Aimless say somewhere that last time it was too hard for the recruiters and he had tweaked the settings? I don't know but its just a possibility.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:31 pm

pancakemix wrote:Skoffin's role is from the first Inquisition game. If recruited by the cult, she becomes a janitor.

My role's like that too, but I'm a Little Girl, so I become a scum roleblocker.

I wouldn't have said anything if the cult leader were still alive and I wasn't 100% sure there was 1 scum group.

THANK YOU XC for that quote!

denounce Pancake

defend yourself pancake, b/c you're going down. There's no way to take him down w/o revealing a bit, but I was blocked last night.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:03 pm

wicked wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Skoffin's role is from the first Inquisition game. If recruited by the cult, she becomes a janitor.

My role's like that too, but I'm a Little Girl, so I become a scum roleblocker.

I wouldn't have said anything if the cult leader were still alive and I wasn't 100% sure there was 1 scum group.

THANK YOU XC for that quote!

denounce Pancake

defend yourself pancake, b/c you're going down. There's no way to take him down w/o revealing a bit, but I was blocked last night.

Jumping to conclusions, are we? Actions at night aren't calculated until the end of night, and recruitment being a night action, it wouldn't have taken affect until today. Therefore, I could not have blocked you. Also, last time there was a watchman role that exile already mentioned, who roleblocks and protects.

Do tell, what is your power?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:06 pm

How do we know you weren't recruited the first night?

And why do you want to know my "power"? A townie wouldn't ask that question.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:10 pm

wicked wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:This is wicked screaming: SINCE I AM NOT SCUM, I REALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS! PLEASE MOD, GIVE ME THIS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW YOUR MAFIA CULT WORKS!
haha, you're right, I'm not scum Mandy. Thanks for pointing that out. but how do YOU know for sure? hmmm???

You welcome. Could you now explain: a) Why did you need to scream out that you are Town (as I explained previously when I told y'all that Koesen is Scum, that is something that only Scumies feel the need to do.

BTW, had you listened to me then, you would not have been recruited.

) and b) If that post was about something other then 'proving' your inocence, why didn't you just check the layout of the first Inquisition? Aim listed all the game mechanics after it finished.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:11 pm

wicked wrote:How do we know you weren't recruited the first night?

And why do you want to know my "power"? A townie wouldn't ask that question.

But how do I know you're not bluffing? If you were, in fact blocked and you say there's no way to "take me down" without revealing a little, why not give the rest of the info? If you do have a power, like you say, why say you have a power and not reveal anything else?

No, I can't prove I wasn't recruited Night 1, but you can't prove I was. It's your word against mine at that point, and it's useless to argue on that.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:37 pm

nagerous wrote:Cult recruit (if they got powers still) and kill? Although that sounds a little over-powered.

Mmh I don't think the goon will get recruiting powers anyway. But of course we won't know till we lynch XC and Wicked.

The previous day I was wondering about PCM's statement too, but it was more about him being 100% sure there's only one scum group. In any case, discarding the possibility of a town roleblocker altogether is a bit far fetched. All in all, my suspicions of Wicked keep growing.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:57 pm

Why would I come out with that if I was scum? If there's only 1-2 scum left, they'd be laying low, not going after people.

Pancake, there was no way for you to know 100% there was only one scum group. No townie would know that so soon like you claimed you did. And how can you not be certain there wouldn't be someone "upgraded" who could recruit you? You wouldn't - unless you were scum.

So let's sum it up, shall we?

Pancake...
1. is "100% sure" only one scum group on Day 1 or 2 (dont' know which)
2. revealed recruitable role, which was just inviting someone to recruit you - no townie would do that
3. pushed me to reveal role

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:59 pm

ga7 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Cult recruit (if they got powers still) and kill? Although that sounds a little over-powered.
Mmh I don't think the goon will get recruiting powers anyway.

How do you know that? You don't. Everyone keeps saying Aim wanted to make this game not so easy on the town.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:06 pm

wicked wrote:Why would I come out with that if I was scum? If there's only 1-2 scum left, they'd be laying low, not going after people.

Pancake, there was no way for you to know 100% there was only one scum group. No townie would know that so soon like you claimed you did. And how can you not be certain there wouldn't be someone "upgraded" who could recruit you? You wouldn't - unless you were scum.

So let's sum it up, shall we?

Pancake...
1. is "100% sure" only one scum group on Day 1 or 2 (dont' know which)
2. revealed recruitable role, which was just inviting someone to recruit you - no townie would do that
3. pushed me to reveal role

Or would they? Are you trying to throw us off, perhaps?

Why would there be 2 scum groups? It wouldn't make sense for there to be 2 scum groups

I already said: If you did have a power role, like you claim you do, you'd have put that forward. Also, like ga7 said, you completely disregard the possibility of a pro-town blocker, and I already said there probably is one.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:14 pm

wicked wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Skoffin's role is from the first Inquisition game. If recruited by the cult, she becomes a janitor.

My role's like that too, but I'm a Little Girl, so I become a scum roleblocker.

I wouldn't have said anything if the cult leader were still alive and I wasn't 100% sure there was 1 scum group.

THANK YOU XC for that quote!

denounce Pancake

defend yourself pancake, b/c you're going down. There's no way to take him down w/o revealing a bit, but I was blocked last night.

denounce pancake 'Little Girl' was Primate's role in original Inquisition and it's highly unlikely that he would repeat it. Besides, if we lynch both Pancake and Wicked we:
a) stand a high chance of nailing the scum that Koesen recruited and
b) hurt no one, since the one one who DOES have the power role doesn't need to survive to win.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:14 pm

Wicked if you're going to claim a power role, then obviously people are going to ask what role you have, especially if someone feels they could counterclaim.

And pancake, why can't there be 2 scum groups? Moors and Free thinkers or Heretics have been speculated on.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:14 pm

wicked, to answer you questions, there are currently 13 alive, so it takes 7 to lynch, and regarding LSU's coughing spree you will just have to wait and find out.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:18 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
wicked wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Skoffin's role is from the first Inquisition game. If recruited by the cult, she becomes a janitor.

My role's like that too, but I'm a Little Girl, so I become a scum roleblocker.

I wouldn't have said anything if the cult leader were still alive and I wasn't 100% sure there was 1 scum group.

THANK YOU XC for that quote!

denounce Pancake

defend yourself pancake, b/c you're going down. There's no way to take him down w/o revealing a bit, but I was blocked last night.
denounce pancake 'Little Girl' was Primate's role in original Inquisition and it's highly unlikely that he would repeat it. Besides, if we lynch both Pancake and Wicked we:
a) stand a high chance of nailing the scum that Koesen recruited and
b) hurt no one, since the one one who DOES have the power role doesn't need to survive to win.

But Skoffin claimed butcher first, which was sheep's role. By that token, you should be denouncing Skoffin too.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:20 pm

What does sheepofdumb have to do with this game

And where did Skoffin claim butcher here?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:21 pm

Because Sziggy, it's not in the town's best interest for that be revealed. And I'm talking in general here. I only came forward with what I did b/c I think pancake is lying.

yes, there could be a pro-town roleblocker, but that still doesn't mean you weren't recruited pancake. why else would you feel comfortable revealing to everyone your role? I dont' even think you were pushed for it, were you?

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:32 pm

Skoffin wrote: I. hate. you. guys.

As I was reading I thought "wait, is this getting longer?!" In fact, 6 pages came up while I was.

A thought occured to me though. I have my reasons for not being terrible active, so I may as well came out now and maybe it will even be somewhat of help to the town. There have been a few claims of townie(survivor), so far the only confirmed was the dead Neutrino. Very easy a role to claim, and you'd assume they'd be the same. Right? But I thought it odd that that I am a Butcher(survivor) (I shop meat, that's all I do. Thank you Aimless) So when Neut died I thought they'd have different terms for people in a town (townsperson, butcher, maybe a smithy or somesuch just random jobs you'd find in a town I'd guess) So I was wondering, why would one term, in this case 'townie', be used more then another? If both Xen and Jake are telling the truth, why would there be three of that and only one of me?
I'd like to lynch Xen to find out really.

Denounce Xencobra

Page 66. Butcher was sheepofdumb's role in Inquisition 1. It's repeated in this game. Why wouldn't Little Girl reappear?

Wicked, I already said, I can't prove I wasn't recruited, but you can't prove I was. Nor do you have a role to back your claim of being roleblocked.

As for my claim, I was just providing it for the sake of example.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:36 pm

pancakemix wrote:As for my claim, I was just providing it for the sake of example.

So don't you think that looks scummy, saying "hey look at me, I can become a roleblocker if I'm recruited!" No townie would do that. No townie would know the entire game setup on Day 2 either.