Halo 3

[Minister Masket]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

[static_ice]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

do even you know what you're talking about there?

[Minister Masket]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

do even you know what you're talking about there?

Yes I do.

[static_ice]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

do even you know what you're talking about there?

Yes I do.

hmm...ps3 counterparts...tell me, what ps3 games are out there that are even close to the style or level of greatness that the halo series has achieved?

[Minister Masket]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

do even you know what you're talking about there?

Yes I do.

hmm...ps3 counterparts...tell me, what ps3 games are out there that are even close to the style or level of greatness that the halo series has achieved?

Many. The Half-Life series is considered to be Halo's rival.
Not to forget Haze, Fallout 3, Unreal Tournament 3 and of course, KILLZONE 2.
And that's just the FPS's.
How about MGS4? GTA4? Ratchet+Clank series? Star Wars: Force Unleashed? Plus many, MANY more.

The 360 is making a BIG mistake relying on 1 game for profit.

[static_ice]

Oh for goodness sake. What's the point in forking out £200+ for a games console just for one game? There isn't.
Be adventurous and branch out into similar game titles, yer bunch o' pansies!

Now then, Halo 3 should be good.
Whether it's better than it's PS3 counterparts remains to be seen. Any opinions otherwise are hearby void. End of.

do even you know what you're talking about there?

Yes I do.

hmm...ps3 counterparts...tell me, what ps3 games are out there that are even close to the style or level of greatness that the halo series has achieved?

Many. The Half-Life series is considered to be Halo's rival.
Not to forget Haze, Fallout 3, Unreal Tournament 3 and of course, KILLZONE 2.
And that's just the FPS's.
How about MGS4? GTA4? Ratchet+Clank series? Star Wars: Force Unleashed? Plus many, MANY more.

The 360 is making a BIG mistake relying on 1 game for profit.

okay well forget the non-FPS's that you mentioned because they are in a different style and thus aren't counterparts. (AND please, please, sonyboy, check your exclusives and stop thinking that just because a good game is coming out on multiple platforms it will automatically be better on PS3 half of the non-FPS's you mentioned are also on 360, meaning it will be impossible for it to push Sony forward any more than it will do for 360 EXCLUSIVITY MATTERS and Sony sucks at it)

Also take out Fallout 3 because its also a different style, as its part RPG or something. Take out Unreal Tournament 3 because it is being released on the 360 too And finally definitely take out Killzone 2, the series is just a clone of Halo... sure its a little different but the gameplay is very similar.

don't know about Haze... yes that game is going to be a good Sony hit but it too is different in style, it is based more on a team1 vs. team2 style, however. and ask anyone, they would bet money that no matter how good it does it will not be as good or successful as Halo.

you say microsoft shouldn't count on one game, but they aren't. Microsoft has its exclusivity licenses set straight, all it is doing with Halo is pushing it more forward because thats just how big it is...

[Minister Masket]

You fool! Killzone 2 is NOT a clone of Halo. You just think it is. Most FPS's are similar in retrospect, so I'll forgive you for that. You're just trying to cover up the fact that it willl be a serious contender for Halo's crown. As is Haze.

Oh, and exclusivity does NOT matter in these cases. I've seen Oblivion played on both a 360 and a PS3. There ARE differences. The PS3 CAN do more. Get used to it.

Forgot to mention Crysis in my list.

[static_ice]

You fool! Killzone 2 is NOT a clone of Halo. You just think it is. Most FPS's are similar in retrospect, so I'll forgive you for that. You're just trying to cover up the fact that it willl be a serious contender for Halo's crown. As is Haze.

Oh, and exclusivity does NOT matter in these cases. I've seen Oblivion played on both a 360 and a PS3. There ARE differences. The PS3 CAN do more. Get used to it.

Forgot to mention Crysis in my list.

okay

A. You didn't forget to mention Crysis in your list, you just said "and many more" first because you thought that first list was enough. Now that I obliterated it, you needed to add another to the list to make it seem more powerful

B. okay maybe killzone is not a clone, but through a bunch of research I just did Halo 1 was much better received than Killzone, it was simply more innovative and didn't rely on a story to make the players feel better, even though it had a good story itself (and if you didn't see it in H1 it becomes very obvious in H2)

C. yes Exclusivity does fucking matter and always will matter. sure PS3 is a more powerful system but that is not always the only factor. Often developers get lazy or just hate sony ( ) notice the following cross-platform games, its been agreed, the graphics are better on 360 than on PS3:
Need For Speed Carbon
Call of Duty 3
Madden 07
Fight Night Round 3 (also it takes much longer to load on PS3)
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Ridge Racer
Devil May Cry 4
Def Jam Icon
NBA Street Homecourt
Virtua Tennis 3
Spider Man 3
MLB 2K7

okay so essentially the 360 does better with 3rd Party games, and in many cases all the games that aren't better on 360 came very close or in some cases tied... (and we all (should) know that 3rd party games are a huge part in contributing to a system)

and Finally, D. Graphics aren't everything. The tried and true formula to winning a console war is the games. Games games games, and this is where exclusivity plays a key role

so if we're done with the power of games, go ahead and start a debate with games, go ahead I dare you

[static_ice]

shit that took me half an hour ^^^

[Utafar]

shit that took me half an hour ^^^

good job none the less

[Minister Masket]

okay

A. You didn't forget to mention Crysis in your list, you just said "and many more" first because you thought that first list was enough. Now that I obliterated it, you needed to add another to the list to make it seem more powerful

B. okay maybe killzone is not a clone, but through a bunch of research I just did Halo 1 was much better received than Killzone, it was simply more innovative and didn't rely on a story to make the players feel better, even though it had a good story itself (and if you didn't see it in H1 it becomes very obvious in H2)

C. yes Exclusivity does fucking matter and always will matter. sure PS3 is a more powerful system but that is not always the only factor. Often developers get lazy or just hate sony ( ) notice the following cross-platform games, its been agreed, the graphics are better on 360 than on PS3:
Need For Speed Carbon
Call of Duty 3
Madden 07
Fight Night Round 3 (also it takes much longer to load on PS3)
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Ridge Racer
Devil May Cry 4
Def Jam Icon
NBA Street Homecourt
Virtua Tennis 3
Spider Man 3
MLB 2K7

okay so essentially the 360 does better with 3rd Party games, and in many cases all the games that aren't better on 360 came very close or in some cases tied... (and we all (should) know that 3rd party games are a huge part in contributing to a system)

and Finally, D. Graphics aren't everything. The tried and true formula to winning a console war is the games. Games games games, and this is where exclusivity plays a key role

so if we're done with the power of games, go ahead and start a debate with games, go ahead I dare you

*rolls up sleeves*

A - That's just plain ridiculous. I added Crysis because I felt it was worthy of mention. If I wanted to re-fill my list, I would have added much more then 1 game.

B - That's because Killzone 1 wasn't all that good, while Halo 1 was a ground-breaker. I was talking about the much, MUCH better looking sequel. Stop looking into the past and stop trying to shift the spotlight!

C - Yes, developers are VERY lazy. Note how many cheap game tie-ins from movies (Transformers) are generally crap. They are rushed to fit in with the film's release. Oh, and Devil May Cry 4 doesn't belong in your list, as it hasn't been released yet. Perhaps you meant 3?
BTW: your list sucks. It's full of crap sequels to generic series' I wouldn't touch with a barge poll. Except Call of Duty + DMC.

I never said anything about graphics, but I do agree with you.
However, do bear in mind: Gameplay makes a game, graphics makes a good game. And boy does the PS3 have a huge line-up of games for 2008. Something which the 360 is definatly lacking...

[sharrakor]

B - That's because Killzone 1 wasn't all that good, while Halo 1 was a ground-breaker. I was talking about the much, MUCH better looking sequel. Stop looking into the past and stop trying to shift the spotlight!

Yeah, it looked better. But was it better? Well, the answer's probably yes. But really, Killzone has probably made a fraction of what Halo has made.

I mean seriously, how many other games actually have BOOKS, that are based off of the game. I can think of...Brute Force, another kickass game for the XBOX. And that's about it. Meanwhile, Halo has at least 6 that have already been published, or will be published. Probably 7, seeing their obsession with that number.

And there's a set coming out for H3 worth $130! So take your Killzone 2 (probably can be bought for like 30 bucks) over to your little Sony Shrine.
I would trade in every game I've ever owned (quite a lot) for a free copy of Halo 3. Is there any game you can say that for? I think not.

[Titanic]

B - That's because Killzone 1 wasn't all that good, while Halo 1 was a ground-breaker. I was talking about the much, MUCH better looking sequel. Stop looking into the past and stop trying to shift the spotlight!

Yeah, it looked better. But was it better? Well, the answer's probably yes. But really, Killzone has probably made a fraction of what Halo has made.

I mean seriously, how many other games actually have BOOKS, that are based off of the game. I can think of...Brute Force, another kickass game for the XBOX. And that's about it. Meanwhile, Halo has at least 6 that have already been published, or will be published. Probably 7, seeing their obsession with that number.

And there's a set coming out for H3 worth $130! So take your Killzone 2 (probably can be bought for like 30 bucks) over to your little Sony Shrine.
I would trade in every game I've ever owned (quite a lot) for a free copy of Halo 3. Is there any game you can say that for? I think not.

Me too, but Ill also need a 360 as well.

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

[diddle]

okay

A. You didn't forget to mention Crysis in your list, you just said "and many more" first because you thought that first list was enough. Now that I obliterated it, you needed to add another to the list to make it seem more powerful

B. okay maybe killzone is not a clone, but through a bunch of research I just did Halo 1 was much better received than Killzone, it was simply more innovative and didn't rely on a story to make the players feel better, even though it had a good story itself (and if you didn't see it in H1 it becomes very obvious in H2)

C. yes Exclusivity does fucking matter and always will matter. sure PS3 is a more powerful system but that is not always the only factor. Often developers get lazy or just hate sony ( ) notice the following cross-platform games, its been agreed, the graphics are better on 360 than on PS3:
Need For Speed Carbon
Call of Duty 3
Madden 07
Fight Night Round 3 (also it takes much longer to load on PS3)
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Ridge Racer
Devil May Cry 4
Def Jam Icon
NBA Street Homecourt
Virtua Tennis 3
Spider Man 3
MLB 2K7

okay so essentially the 360 does better with 3rd Party games, and in many cases all the games that aren't better on 360 came very close or in some cases tied... (and we all (should) know that 3rd party games are a huge part in contributing to a system)

and Finally, D. Graphics aren't everything. The tried and true formula to winning a console war is the games. Games games games, and this is where exclusivity plays a key role

so if we're done with the power of games, go ahead and start a debate with games, go ahead I dare you

*rolls up sleeves*

A - That's just plain ridiculous. I added Crysis because I felt it was worthy of mention. If I wanted to re-fill my list, I would have added much more then 1 game.

B - That's because Killzone 1 wasn't all that good, while Halo 1 was a ground-breaker. I was talking about the much, MUCH better looking sequel. Stop looking into the past and stop trying to shift the spotlight!

C - Yes, developers are VERY lazy. Note how many cheap game tie-ins from movies (Transformers) are generally crap. They are rushed to fit in with the film's release. Oh, and Devil May Cry 4 doesn't belong in your list, as it hasn't been released yet. Perhaps you meant 3?
BTW: your list sucks. It's full of crap sequels to generic series' I wouldn't touch with a barge poll. Except Call of Duty + DMC.

I never said anything about graphics, but I do agree with you.
However, do bear in mind: Gameplay makes a game, graphics makes a good game. And boy does the PS3 have a huge line-up of games for 2008. Something which the 360 is definatly lacking...

*sniffs* I love the smell of testosterone in the morning

[Minister Masket]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

[diddle]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

now, i will chop off my own scrotom if this doesn't start a debate

[pancakemix]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

Have you played Gears? I haven't played Resistance, so I won't judge, but Gears is a pretty good game (much better than Halo, IMO).

[Minister Masket]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

Have you played Gears? I haven't played Resistance, so I won't judge, but Gears is a pretty good game (much better than Halo, IMO).

Yes, I've played both games.

[sharrakor]

This thread started a Conquer Club Clubhouse Console war.

[diddle]

This thread started a Conquer Club Clubhouse Console war.

try saying that quickly after several pints

[unriggable]

Halo 3 is going to ruin the franchise. Like Pirates of the Carribean

[sheepofdumb]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

Have you played Gears? I haven't played Resistance, so I won't judge, but Gears is a pretty good game (much better than Halo, IMO).

I have played both and Gears is WAY better than Resistance. I do need to run through both single player game fully but I know I won't be talking about Resistance in a few years when I look back on really good games.

[Titanic]

Masket, wtf are you talking about. No FPS can touch Halo, and Halo is a killer app, so Microsoft did rely on it for the original Xbox, but they have laods of other titles for the 360 now that most developers sell on both platforms. Also, Gears of War, beats any FPS on the PS3 at the moment.

I beg to differ. In my opinion, Resistance: Fall of Man is better than Gears of War.

Have you played Gears? I haven't played Resistance, so I won't judge, but Gears is a pretty good game (much better than Halo, IMO).

I have played both and Gears is WAY better than Resistance. I do need to run through both single player game fully but I know I won't be talking about Resistance in a few years when I look back on really good games.

Yer, thats true. I've never played resistance online so I cant judge about that part of it, but the campaign scenarios on Resistance are pitiful compared to Gears. The levels that I played (it was a minimal amount to be fair) were more walkthrough which made it obvious what you were meant to do and didn really involve mch of your own initiative or imagination. In Gears using your initiative helps you greatly, and the levels are complex and make you tihnk. Also, Gears online is great, and btw, my friend got to 400th in the world on gears, got 11,000 kills before he had to stop playing for exam revision.

[flyingskiman]

I just saw part of the campaign for Halo 3 at the Pacific Science Center(Seattle) in Imax. They had a preview showing and both shows filled up all 405 seats. Its looking like its going to be a pretty amazing game!

got any video?

Sorry. I wish though. I was working there so it would have been kind of obvious if i was trying to film it. It took a lot of control to not try to jack their disk of it though.

[static_ice]

okay

A. You didn't forget to mention Crysis in your list, you just said "and many more" first because you thought that first list was enough. Now that I obliterated it, you needed to add another to the list to make it seem more powerful

B. okay maybe killzone is not a clone, but through a bunch of research I just did Halo 1 was much better received than Killzone, it was simply more innovative and didn't rely on a story to make the players feel better, even though it had a good story itself (and if you didn't see it in H1 it becomes very obvious in H2)

C. yes Exclusivity does fucking matter and always will matter. sure PS3 is a more powerful system but that is not always the only factor. Often developers get lazy or just hate sony ( ) notice the following cross-platform games, its been agreed, the graphics are better on 360 than on PS3:
Need For Speed Carbon
Call of Duty 3
Madden 07
Fight Night Round 3 (also it takes much longer to load on PS3)
Tony Hawk's Project 8
Ridge Racer
Devil May Cry 4
Def Jam Icon
NBA Street Homecourt
Virtua Tennis 3
Spider Man 3
MLB 2K7

okay so essentially the 360 does better with 3rd Party games, and in many cases all the games that aren't better on 360 came very close or in some cases tied... (and we all (should) know that 3rd party games are a huge part in contributing to a system)

and Finally, D. Graphics aren't everything. The tried and true formula to winning a console war is the games. Games games games, and this is where exclusivity plays a key role

so if we're done with the power of games, go ahead and start a debate with games, go ahead I dare you

*rolls up sleeves*

A - That's just plain ridiculous. I added Crysis because I felt it was worthy of mention. If I wanted to re-fill my list, I would have added much more then 1 game.

B - That's because Killzone 1 wasn't all that good, while Halo 1 was a ground-breaker. I was talking about the much, MUCH better looking sequel. Stop looking into the past and stop trying to shift the spotlight!

C - Yes, developers are VERY lazy. Note how many cheap game tie-ins from movies (Transformers) are generally crap. They are rushed to fit in with the film's release. Oh, and Devil May Cry 4 doesn't belong in your list, as it hasn't been released yet. Perhaps you meant 3?
BTW: your list sucks. It's full of crap sequels to generic series' I wouldn't touch with a barge poll. Except Call of Duty + DMC.

I never said anything about graphics, but I do agree with you.
However, do bear in mind: Gameplay makes a game, graphics makes a good game. And boy does the PS3 have a huge line-up of games for 2008. Something which the 360 is definatly lacking...

A. Well isn't it a little suspicious that you first said "and many more" (which Crysis would perfectly fall into) and then later add just one more game?

B. I'm not looking into the past or shifting the spotlight. The thing is, you can't hype about a sequel game just from the previews, you have to see how good the original(s) is/are. Since the Halo series has a much better Original base, that is just 1 reason why there is no possibility that KZ2 could amass to the same greatness.

C. Actually Devil May Cry 4 does belong in it, as the testers were testing the demos they played sent from the developer.
Umm my list doesn't suck, since the true way to compare graphics is to use 3rd party, multiplatform games, for example you can't really compare an exclusive 360 title to an exclusive PS3 title because the graphical difference could be due to many more factors than just the systems. And Carbon, Madden, DMC, CoD, and Fight Night are very good games in that list, I wouldn't say the list sucks especially when 3rd party games are the games that tend to make or break the system. (that's why nintendo's struggling right now, it has great 1st party games but trouble with 3rd party games).

Well you didn't say anything about graphics specifically, but you did say that lots of 3rd party multiplatform games like Obvlivion are better on the PS3, so hence my list of 3P MP games that are better on the 360.

and yes on gameplay vs. graphics, that is quite obvious, you pretty much can't say that one system is better on gameplay than the other, its essentially the same controller (unless you count the Six-axis which is just a copycat gimmick and wasn't fully followed through by Sony). The only way to tell which system "has better gameplay" is through the games, which is exactly what I said, games games games and boy PS3's 2008 lineup looks like a LOT of nonexclusive titles compared to 360's

questions?