New Jedi Order Mafia MOZ & VONG WIN

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:19 pm

Everyone please stop talking crap about AK. You are spamming up the thread. Just patiently wait for his explaination post.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:20 pm

maybe the library closed?

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:21 pm

MountainLion wrote:Everyone please stop talking crap about AK. You are spamming up the thread. Just patiently wait for his explaination post.

*sniffle* I thought we were allowed to goad each other in Mafia games...

Sorry....

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:26 pm

Btw, I'm at lynch -1 right now. Just so you're all aware and nobody drops the hammer unknowingly.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:26 pm

The buildup, the sneak preview, the suspense, all is there. *steals popcorn and coke from Serbia*

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:27 pm

That comment makes me wanna drop the hammer just to be a prick, Iceman... Hurry up!

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:35 pm

ga7 wrote:The buildup, the sneak preview, the suspense, all is there. *steals popcorn and coke from Serbia*

IDIOT!

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:38 pm

just in case some idiot doesnt drop the hammer without knowing, unvote.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:15 pm

VOTE COUNT

Wicked(3) - MM, AK, Serbia,
Kwanton(1) - XenC
AK Iceman(13) - Wicked, Fircoal, LSU, Skittles, Neutrino, Aegnor, Talapus, Nagerus, Kwanton, Ga7, Firth, Exile, Koesen
Minister Masket(1) - Tonka,
Life-saver(0) -
Jnd(0) -
Freezie(0)
Fircoal (1) - Life-saver,
Nagerus (0) -
Aegnor (0)
Exile(0) -
Ga7(0)
LSU(1) - Skoffin
Pancake(1) - Moz
Aimless(0) -
Talapus(0)
Mauntain Lion(0)
Anarkistsdream(2) - Trestain, Freezie

It takes 16 votes to lynch.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:17 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:VOTE COUNT

Wicked(5) - MM, AK, Serbia,

Math isn't popular in Croatia, eh Mandy?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:18 pm

Wicked(5) - MM, AK, Serbia,

since when is that 5?

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:18 pm

wicked wrote:I'm wondering if there's some weird scum/3rd party day role that helps the scum/3rd party the longer the day is? That's the only other explanation for his stalling other than making up a story.

Darn, you cought me.

Each RT hour, Ice gets to choose one of you and poke him/her with a pencil. Those who get poked 1024 times die.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:21 pm

Serbia wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:VOTE COUNT

Wicked(5) - MM, AK, Serbia,
Math isn't popular in Croatia, eh Mandy?

Great timing, Serbia. You didn't go ethnic on me until I got the power of the mighty Mod Spear!

Now tremble!

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:24 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Serbia wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:VOTE COUNT

Wicked(5) - MM, AK, Serbia,
Math isn't popular in Croatia, eh Mandy?
Great timing, Serbia. You didn't go ethnic on me until I got the power of the mighty Mod Spear! Now tremble!

Actually I did once before, and got in trouble with you also. But hey! Serbian is close to Croatian, right? So we're like cousins, right???

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:41 pm

Serbia wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Serbia wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:VOTE COUNT

Wicked(5) - MM, AK, Serbia,
Math isn't popular in Croatia, eh Mandy?
Great timing, Serbia. You didn't go ethnic on me until I got the power of the mighty Mod Spear! Now tremble!
Actually I did once before, and got in trouble with you also. But hey! Serbian is close to Croatian, right? So we're like cousins, right???

No, you got in a fight with another guy, I just grumbled about it.

And no. As any Croatian or Serb who live here could tell you, the fact that we practicly speak the same language and that we hail from neighboring countries only proves a dastardly plan hatched by the other side.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:42 pm

*cough*quote in quote*cough*

Man this is a long wait. I finished the popcorn already

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:44 pm

I finished my movie already *cough* IC *cough*

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:44 pm

Ok, let's get this started. This will be a long post, but it will hopefully provide enough evidence to make a decent educated guess at scum for Day 1.

The first 8 pages of Day 1 are just random votes and spam. Nothing helpful, and it just makes re-reads longer in the future. Mandy introduced "THE DUEL" event at the end of Page 16, which livened the game up considerably.

Vote Count - Prior to "THE DUEL"

[1] Serbia -- (Anarkistsdream)

[2] wicked -- (Minister Masket, nagerous)

[1] kwanton -- (XenCobra)

[1] AK_iceman -- (jnd94)

[2] Minister Masket -- (got tonkaed, Serbia)

[2] life-saver -- (Talapus, Fircoal)

[1] jnd94 -- (The1exile)

[1] freezie -- (Syzygy)

[1] ga7 -- (LSU Tiger Josh)

[4] Fircoal -- (Aegnor, kwanton, life-saver, Aimless)

[2] nagerous -- (MountianLion, freezie)

[1] Aegnor -- (pancakemix)

[1] Anarkistsdream -- (trestain)

[1] Skittles! -- (wicked)

[1] Aimless -- (Skittles!)

[1] The1exile -- (ga7)

[1] LSU Tiger Josh -- (Skoffin)

[2] pancakemix -- (Neutrino, moz976)

[1] Talapus -- (Koesen)

[1] MountainLion -- (firth4eva)

[3] Not Voting, -- (Selin, AK_iceman, willis)
16 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Wicked starts asking questions that would lead to players revealing info and/or roleclaiming. Her excuse was that she wasn't expecting an answer... and also that she hadn't properly read it before posting. Anark makes a comment about how he'll win the duel for the Jedi. He passes it off as a joke. Wicked and Anark argue back and forth for a couple pages, and wicked says that she started a bandwagon on Anark to see if anyone would join it. She unvotes, and immediately gets called out for backtracking.

Cliffs:
Anark claims to be a Jedi.
wicked claims to have started a bandwagon on Anark to see who join it.

I use my one-shot investigation on wicked and Mandy confirms her to be guilty.

Vote Count - Prior to my investigation on wicked

[5] wicked -- (Minister Masket, nagerous, ga7, Anarkistsdream, jnd94)

[1] kwanton -- (XenCobra)

[2] Minister Masket -- (got tonkaed, Serbia)

[2] life-saver -- (Talapus, Fircoal)

[1] jnd94 -- (The1exile)

[1] freezie -- (Syzygy)

[1] ga7 -- (LSU Tiger Josh)

[5] Fircoal -- (Aegnor, kwanton, life-saver, Aimless, Neutrino)

[1] nagerous -- (MountianLion)

[1] Aegnor -- (pancakemix)

[1] Aimless -- (Skittles!)

[1] LSU Tiger Josh -- (Skoffin)

[1] pancakemix -- (moz976)

[1] Talapus -- (Koesen)

[1] MountainLion -- (firth4eva)

[3] Anarkistsdream -- (trestain, freezie, wicked)

[3] Not Voting, -- (Selin, AK_iceman, willis)
16 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Notes:
firth4eva voted wicked on Page 20, but never unvoted Mountain Lion.

A quick bandwagon follows my investigation consisting of The1exile, trestain, MountainLion, freezie, Fircoal, and kwanton. Wicked roleclaims as Ganner Rhysode on Page 25. Then she quotes her Role PM directly from Mandy, minus the night action section. The bandwagon fades...

Cliffs:
I investigate wicked and find her scum.
Wicked claims to be "Ganner Rhysode, a Jedi Knight".
She also gives out the info that Jedi's have 2 options each night.
Wicked quotes her role PM on Page 26.

Wicked convinces several players to unvote after claiming Ganner, and posting her role PM.

Vote Count - At the height of the wicked bandwagon

[13] wicked -- (Minister Masket, nagerous, ga7, Anarkistsdream, jnd94, AK_iceman, Serbia, The1exile, trestain, MountainLion, freezie, Fircoal, kwanton)

[1] kwanton -- (XenCobra)

[1] Minister Masket -- (got tonkaed)

[1] life-saver -- (Talapus)

[1] freezie -- (Syzygy)

[1] ga7 -- (LSU Tiger Josh)

[4] Fircoal -- (Aegnor, life-saver, Aimless, Neutrino)

[1] Aegnor -- (pancakemix)

[1] Aimless -- (Skittles!)

[1] LSU Tiger Josh -- (Skoffin)

[1] pancakemix -- (moz976)

[1] Talapus -- (Koesen)

[1] MountainLion -- (firth4eva)

[1] Anarkistsdream -- (wicked)

[2] Not Voting, -- (Selin, willis)
16 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Discussion takes place about wicked's role claim, and my investigation. Aimless made some good comments on Page 28. Wicked suggests that I'm suiciding, which is BS.

Cliffs:
The1exile is not on the Jedi side, because of his post on Page 27. He's either mafia or a third party IMO.

Vote Count - The height of the AK_iceman bandwagon

[3] wicked -- (Minister Masket, AK_iceman, Serbia)

[1] kwanton -- (XenCobra)

[1] Minister Masket -- (got tonkaed)

[1] Fircoal -- (life-saver)

[1] LSU Tiger Josh -- (Skoffin)

[1] pancakemix -- (moz976)

[15] AK_iceman -- (wicked, freezie, Fircoal, LSU Tiger Josh, Skittles!, Neutrino, Aegnor, Talapus, nagerous, kwanton, ga7, firth4eva, The1exile, jnd94, Koesen)

[8] Not Voting, -- (Selin, willis, Anarkistsdream, trestain, MountainLion, Syzygy, Aimless, pancakemix)
16 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch
Notes:
Skoffin voted for AK_iceman, but never unvoted LSU Tiger Josh.
XenCobra can't play anymore, Gimpy has been contacted as a possible sub.

Ok, now that that's out of the way, let me explain myself.

I never investigated wicked. That investigation, and that role were made up to start a bandwagon on wicked. Wicked tried the bandwagon thing earlier, but got nothing. It was a good idea though, so I faked a role/investigation to get it going again. I figured out of everyone, that wicked would be the most believeable target for me to investigate, and also that she would understand what I was trying to do. I didn't expect her to quote her role PM, I just thought she'd sling some BS as usual and talk her way out of it.

I half-expected the bandwagon to shift to me while I was afk, but not to the extent it did. Lynch -1 is a little too close for comfort.

As of right now, I am not planning on revealing my true role unless I have to to avoid being lynched. The mafia already have more than enough info today thanks to wicked.

But, we now have 2 pretty good bandwagons to compare and figure out who is most likely to be mafia. The1exile deserves an honorable mention for this post....

The1exile wrote:Don't lynch me if I'm wrong (because it's late and i'm tired) but couldn't the jedi who's doing the duel vouch for wicked being a jedi, since they can;t be lynched and might not be alive nyway?

It seems to be that would be the best way of verifying wicked's identity, though I don't have a reason to distrust AK really (a mislynch on day 1 will hardly kill us even if it is a powerful jedi).

He clearly isn't a part of the Jedi group, as he didn't know whether the Jedi could communicate or if they knew each other.

Players that were on both the wicked and AK bandwagon are:
nagerous, ga7, jnd94, The1exile, freezie, Fircoal, and kwanton.

The1exile stands out yet again as being on both bandwagons... Strike 2?

Anyway, I'm tired from writing this twice, so I'll finish it as I think of more.
Unvote - wicked
Wicked's role claim and PM seem legit, and I believe that she's a Jedi.

Vote - The1exile
You're switching bandwagons left and right, posting that you have no idea what the Jedi can do, and basically acting scummy while hiding behind the action.

MountainLion · Post by **MountainLion** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:52 pm

So it was just a way to start a bandwagon? I've never seen (haven't played in many games, but still...) a strategy like this...very interesting. I would like to read over exile's posts again to see if I agree.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:52 pm

you're the reason I had to roleclaim IC, I was on a speed lynch to a certain lynch.

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:53 pm

wicked wrote:you're the reason I had to roleclaim IC, I was on a speed lynch to a certain lynch.

You never got past Lynch-3. I was at Lynch -1 and you don't see me claiming, do you?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:54 pm

still not buying it IC, even after a re-read.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:54 pm

AK_iceman wrote:As of right now, I am not planning on revealing my true role unless I have to to avoid being lynched. The mafia already have more than enough info today thanks to wicked.

This part makes my scumdar ping. Wicked was close to a lynch thanks to you, and had to reveal her role only because of you. You say all this was to catch bandwagonners but I find it way more credible that you did it to get infos on Wicked and possibly getting her lynched in the process.
Your case about Exile seems good, but to give you a free pass for this far-fetched and dangerous act feels pretty risky to me right now.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:55 pm

ga7 wrote:*cough*quote in quote*cough*
Man this is a long wait. I finished the popcorn already

Anouncement

1. Huck replaces Xen Cobra.

2. Mod is going to bed. The next Vote count will be posted no later then 17.15 GMT. Good night folks.

trestain · Post by **trestain** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:55 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:Mandy, how did Wicked vote for herself?

Second, Trestain still has not come back to make any sort of retort to any of the questioning statements put to him. I suggest anyone who can investigate should investigate him tonight

Third, Iceman has definately had enough time to write a new post considering he is in fucking alaska...

investigate me if you must it'll clear me anyway.

Anarkistsdream the reason i asked about you being a jedi is because of after these posts i trust wicked to be telling the truth

wicked wrote:ok fine Freezie...

mandalorian2298 wrote:You are Ganner Rhysode (Jedi Knight)

Being a Jedi, you...

[blocked to protect other jedi's]

You win if all the threats to the new Republic have been eliminated.

Confirm in the game thread.

wicked wrote:
haha... If I'm the most powerful, the town is in deep shit! Looks like I'm dead tonight anyway, unless I get lucky with the dice again... or if my fellow Jedi wins the duel.

the reason i asked if youclaimed jedi was because this sounds like you are

Anarkistsdream wrote:I'm not whatever that guys name was...

But I am on the jedis side...

Obviously I would never say that if I was truly him... hah

and if you are then i believe you would know what wicked meant in that second quote from wicked and NOT POSTED THIS

Anarkistsdream wrote: Lucky with the dice???

Isn't this Mafia, not RISK?