Athkatla Mafia - Talassians [mandy] WIN! (and Koesen)

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:12 pm

Hmm I just had an idea. Instead of lynching Cena why don't we lynch XG and see if it's really a cult instead of masons? That way, we don't please any god, but they can't complain about it. Obviously they're all lying, but since only GT's followers have been identified, that way we'll know if all of the religious freaks need to be lynched.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:13 pm

Ah forgot: Vote XG

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:24 pm

Vote Count

cena: koesen, neut, Josh, Kwan, Sierra, nag, PCM (7)
ga7: Skittles!, XGSuperstar (2)
XGSuperstar: ga7 (1)

with 18 alive it takes 9 to lynch!

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:36 pm

ga7 wrote:Hmm I just had an idea. Instead of lynching Cena why don't we lynch XG and see if it's really a cult instead of masons? That way, we don't please any god, but they can't complain about it. Obviously they're all lying, but since only GT's followers have been identified, that way we'll know if all of the religious freaks need to be lynched.

Good idea.

Unvote

Vote XG

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:50 pm

Ga7, first you start a bandwagon on Nes, and now on me. Maybe my gut feeling that you are scum was correct, but that is too premature.

Even before Cena recruited me, my diety was G_T, so Cena recruiting me didn't change my alliance whatsoever. So in essence it is a mason group, but exile never truely made it clear to me if I joined a mason or cult group, and I do not know if the answer I recieved can be disclosed [say if so exile].

I was under the illusion that EVERYONE followed a diety, I guess that is not true...

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:58 pm

How do you expect us non believers to believe we don't have 3 damn cults menacing us if you don't know yourself?

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:12 pm

Haha.. Very interesting. Can't believe I wasn't here when it happened.

I don't exactly agree with lynching XG, even after he thinks we're all under the watchful protection of a "god". I'll just wait and see how everything plays out.

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:15 pm

ga7 wrote:How do you expect us non believers to believe we don't have 3 damn cults menacing us if you don't know yourself?

Hmm, so not everyone is a believer. I was not under that impression.

It seems this game differs from a normal mafia game. Probably some dieties are not bad, and others are, as I still have to defeat the scum to win.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:28 pm

vote cena. Screw you, GT!

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:12 pm

XGSuperstar wrote:
ga7 wrote:How do you expect us non believers to believe we don't have 3 damn cults menacing us if you don't know yourself?
Hmm, so not everyone is a believer. I was not under that impression.

It seems this game differs from a normal mafia game. Probably some dieties are not bad, and others are, as I still have to defeat the scum to win.

Well, from what Ex told us and his first post scene, we must be wary of all groups so... I'm still doubtful that there really is 3 cults, but we can't be sure till we see one of them killed. Maybe we can wait till the night as I suppose if a concurrent believer has killing powers Cena and you are likely to be targeted, but that might not happen and we'd still be at square one

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:31 pm

The armies of Amn being occupied in the south, near anarchy has broken out and the sects of Talos and Lathander have gone at each other hammer and tongs, while the city attempts to pacify both sides, and also be wary of Helmites, who wish neither side to get an advantage - preferably by destroying all who stand in their way.

It looks like Fircoal and Mandy are at each other's throats, and GT [Helm] is trying to kill both. So GT looks to be neutral in this game.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:33 pm

XGSuperstar wrote:
The armies of Amn being occupied in the south, near anarchy has broken out and the sects of Talos and Lathander have gone at each other hammer and tongs, while the city attempts to pacify both sides, and also be wary of Helmites, who wish neither side to get an advantage - preferably by destroying all who stand in their way.
It looks like Fircoal and Mandy are at each other's throats, and GT [Helm] is trying to kill both. So GT looks to be neutral in this game.

Didn't we already establish that a few pages back?

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:49 pm

Skittles! wrote:
XGSuperstar wrote:
The armies of Amn being occupied in the south, near anarchy has broken out and the sects of Talos and Lathander have gone at each other hammer and tongs, while the city attempts to pacify both sides, and also be wary of Helmites, who wish neither side to get an advantage - preferably by destroying all who stand in their way.
It looks like Fircoal and Mandy are at each other's throats, and GT [Helm] is trying to kill both. So GT looks to be neutral in this game.
Didn't we already establish that a few pages back?

I know, but I was unsure. I was thinking all 3 were at each others throats, and there were 3 groups of people. Now there is a 4th group, nonbelievers. So it looks like Mandy and Fircoal are the scum, the GT squad is trying to stop them, and the townies are watching, gaping. However this is achieved through very limited knowledge, so it might not be true.

About the neutral part, it was established by ga7 that Helm was neutral according to wikipedia. My first bringing of that quote was stating that it makes helmites look like the bad guys, but I was unsure. The second bringing was a second look through, which confirms wiki's description that GT is neutral. But I remember Exile stating that they have their own motives this time.

Meh, after more interventions on later days it might be clear.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:51 am

Unvote I'll reread this confusing situation tomorrow when I'm not half asleep.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:43 am

this is annoying but unvote vote ga7

XG vouched for me making him good.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:17 am

I'm actually afraid of being smitten.

I don't doubt that mandy or fircoal would have me as their first target. GT doesn't know me well enough yet but the other two definitely have it in for me so I'll keep my vote.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:20 am

Vote Count

cena: koesen, neut, Kwan, Sierra, nag, jnd (6)
ga7: Skittles!, XGSuperstar, cena (3)
XGSuperstar: ga7, PCM (2)

with 18 alive it takes 9 to lynch!

Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:18 am

Here's what I make out of all this:

Mandy, Tonka and Fir are the gods of the mafia, the cult and the town. Judging by their claims, I'm pretty sure Tonka is the cult god. The other two I'm still unsure of, but judging by his lying and his threathening words I would guess Mandy is the mafia god, making Fir the town god. They probably can't lay a finger on eachother, but they have some powers that they can use to influence our game. They can win by having their 'believers' win this game. Like I said, this is just guesswork, but until I hear a better theory I'll assume this is how it is.

I'm leaving my vote on cena. Not because of Mandy's no-smite guarantee (I'm not sure we can really trust his word on this), but because I see no good reason to keep Tonka's cult alive. Seeing cena's role would also give us some verification on our theories on the game mechanics.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:24 am

so anyone who doesnt vote cena dies?that means mandy plans on killing people of his own?

i wonder if they know who is on there side?

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:27 am

yeah because I was told to recruit XG. Also all these reasons to vote me I wanna vote me now

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:21 am

cena-rules wrote:yeah because I was told to recruit XG. Also all these reasons to vote me I wanna vote me now

That would simplify things. Go ahead.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:27 am

pancakemix wrote:
cena-rules wrote:yeah because I was told to recruit XG. Also all these reasons to vote me I wanna vote me now
That would simplify things. Go ahead.

I wont but I kinda see why you all are

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:43 am

Sierra_Leon wrote:Here's what I make out of all this:

Mandy, Tonka and Fir are the gods of the mafia, the cult and the town. Judging by their claims, I'm pretty sure Tonka is the cult god. The other two I'm still unsure of, but judging by his lying and his threathening words I would guess Mandy is the mafia god, making Fir the town god. They probably can't lay a finger on eachother, but they have some powers that they can use to influence our game. They can win by having their 'believers' win this game. Like I said, this is just guesswork, but until I hear a better theory I'll assume this is how it is.

Actually, I'm guessing that Tonka really isn't too much of a cult. When I first started the game, I was told that Tonka was the diety I was supposed to follow, and that was it. Last night, I was recruited by Cena, who just happened to follow the same "religion", so to speak, my alignment did not change at all. However, Mandy does appear to be the Mafia one, and all followers of Mandy must be punished.

However, I'm just blabbing. I would have assumed it would jump to night after Nes suicided, as I read on the Mafiascum wiki [wiki's are not the best source for info, I know that].

Problem, the only one closest to a lynch idea is Cena... and that was pretty much because of Mandy.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:50 pm

Busy weekend, will post more tomorrow.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:46 pm

Damn you guys are boring. I give you 3 gods a crazy assed setup and you don't say anything for 6 hours.

Deadline is in about 30 hours.