DiM wrote:kwanton wrote:He's not blaming the forum for influencing the guy to choose that particular avatar.
He's saying that it is unfair to reprimand him for using that avatar while something like flame forum exists because, in his mind, flame forum is much worse.
exactly. except for the fact i don't think it's much worse. i put it on the same level.
You're a good guy DiM and i realise that this is not your first language, this in mind you are doing an extraordinary job at expressing yourself.
However this is an issue which gets me primed for debate.
I think that in fact i do need to express what you have inferred. Your implication, although you have hidden behind a literary tool or two in order to remain illusive. Is that the existence of Flame wars creates an atmosphere in which a disregard for authority and a disrespect of decency, allows such avatars and crudity in general to be used as a badge of honour.
Your assertion that you are defending the right to use such images, under the premise that it is no worse than the use of language in Flame Wars is the trick! You have pooled all questionable behaviour to fall under one church. As you would obviously like Flame wars to be removed and no unpleasant avatars used either.
If as you say you are not making a direct link, which you can of course not, then the whole line of your argument is irrelevant.
In my opinion, the use of a picture as sport which depicts a real person who died in horrific circumstance, is not even in the same bracket as some kids calling each other names.
A picture is worth a thousand words?.. Well i certainly don't close my eyes to be met by the searing vision of ronaldhinio with a shovel in his japs-eye! but i do have difficulty shaking away the image of a real person who died in immense sufferrring.
honestly it's not even a contest. Flame wars is, in general, a quasi-literate arena which may in fact act as vent, not an incitement to genuine violence or disruptive behaviour. (as you already loosely pointed out.)
The expletive and abusive tone is used in a largely metaphorical sense and derives more from sound and resonant combination than real intent and sincerity.
