You Brits are gonna love the New Freedom and Safety

[Guiscard]

Did they have turbans on? For police worldwide, that's half the battle.

Duh. Terrorists wear disguises when out in the filed!

[unriggable]

World's biggest housecat

[vtmarik]

... I get the feeling that (original post) is half, if not less than half the story.

...

What would the other half be?

I agree with Nobunaga, theres no way that that is all that happened. If they were treated like terrorist suspects they would not have questioned them on the street or let them go to the toilet or make them empty their pockets on the street. All of that would have happened in a police station. Also, if they were terrorist suspects they would have been taken to Paddington Green, like all the terrorist suspects since 7/7 have been.

And we'd have thrown their Koran down the loo...

Tee-hee.... loo.

[Norse]

"What is this I can hear??....Another cacophony of bleating drones...faithfully chorusing to the tune of their masters wishes?"

Oh how very cultural and intellectual...I wish I read as many fucking government pamphlets as you guys...damn, I might even turn on the idiot box to watch some BBC to become more "learned".

If knowledge is what you drones have, I would prefer to remain ignorant.

[vtmarik]

"What is this I can hear??....Another cacophony of bleating drones...faithfully chorusing to the tune of their masters wishes?"

Oh how very cultural and intellectual...I wish I read as many fucking government pamphlets as you guys...damn, I might even turn on the idiot box to watch some BBC to become more "learned".

If knowledge is what you drones have, I would prefer to remain ignorant.

Lemme guess, Fox News is your #1 choice for news?

[Norse]

"What is this I can hear??....Another cacophony of bleating drones...faithfully chorusing to the tune of their masters wishes?"

Oh how very cultural and intellectual...I wish I read as many fucking government pamphlets as you guys...damn, I might even turn on the idiot box to watch some BBC to become more "learned".

If knowledge is what you drones have, I would prefer to remain ignorant.

Lemme guess, Fox News is your #1 choice for news?

Yes, because being an american citizen, i know what fox news is....

Ignorance in it's purest form is the greatest.

[Norse]

YOUR RIGHTS UNDER SECTION 44 (Courtesy Liberty ):

• The police can only give you a pat down, remove outer clothes (eg jacket, hat), search your bags and have you empty your pockets
• You do not have to give your name and address
• You do not have to explain why you are there
• You are not allowed to flee the search, but you are not required to be actively compliant. You are allowed to 'go limp' as passive resistance during the search if you wish not to comply
• There is no permission to collect DNA data during the search
• You do not have to comply with any attempt to photograph or record you
• Women cannot be touched by male police during these searches
• Make notes about the officers searching you - name, number and police force
• Note the time and the events preceding the search
• Note the specific wording used by the police to explain their authority to search you
• Ask the police for the reason that they are searching you. Specifically, are they searching for terrorists or are they simply trying to deter, delay or inconvenience you?

Excellent...I never knew a few of these things....

good work

[PerkinsRooster]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

Normal people that live in these places at risk for degenerating into police states.

why not concentrate on real human rights abuses across the World. Join Amnesty International and devote the spare hours you obviously have to a real cause that can actually make a difference.

Because he probably doesn't give a flying f*ck about those and, frankly, I don't either. He cares about the ones that actually can impact him and other CCers in a practical way.

Why am I responding for him? Because I can.

That's too bad Coleman. One of the reasons that America is the greatest country in the world is that it has cared about the rights of people around the world. You see, it does affect you in a practical way, it's just not an immediate effect and therefore not obvious to you.

And sorry, but one of the reasons for the Iraq war is infact oil, and the reason it costs you more now than before is that it's not going too well, as you've probably heard.

Later!
PR

[DaGip]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

well gee, I thought a person like yourself being from London and all would care. Unless you kiss the boots that kick you.

Gives meaning to the word lackie. Must be the type of person that would bend over and take an RFID up the bloody arse.

[joecoolfrog]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

well gee, I thought a person like yourself being from London and all would care. Unless you kiss the boots that kick you.

Gives meaning to the word lackie. Must be the type of person that would bend over and take an RFID up the bloody arse.

Well thats the problem with living in a country that is so insular I suppose, you know very little about the rest of the World and simply quote whatever is convenient to your narrow minded views. Comic boy and I both happen to live in London and have lived with the effects of terrorism all our lives, this contrasts sharply with most Americans who will never be affected by it. For the record we both despise the present government though with Blair gone there is a ray of light, getting involved in Iraq was a huge blunder and ordinary people have ended up paying the price. Its all very well for some fool to sit in his house across the Atlantic,polishing his guns and spouting off about freedom but in the real World there are tough choices to be made. The UK has a proud record of standing up to terrorism at home ( A lot of which was funded by misguided Irish citizens in the USA) and its citizens have been pretty stoic over the years but it does have some security implications.
There is no doubt that on occasions some dumb detective or security guard will wildly overeact but the fact that this immediately makes front page news is an obvious indication that we are far from a police state.
Terrorism works on a fear principle, it is designed to stop people from going about their ordinary lives but this has never succeeded in Britain, rather different in the USA where you collectively shat yourself after one attack and proceeded to further destabilise the World with your ridiculous 'war on terror'.

[xtratabasco]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

well gee, I thought a person like yourself being from London and all would care. Unless you kiss the boots that kick you.

Gives meaning to the word lackie. Must be the type of person that would bend over and take an RFID up the bloody arse.

Well thats the problem with living in a country that is so insular I suppose, you know very little about the rest of the World and simply quote whatever is convenient to your narrow minded views. Comic boy and I both happen to live in London and have lived with the effects of terrorism all our lives, this contrasts sharply with most Americans who will never be affected by it. For the record we both despise the present government though with Blair gone there is a ray of light, getting involved in Iraq was a huge blunder and ordinary people have ended up paying the price. Its all very well for some fool to sit in his house across the Atlantic,polishing his guns and spouting off about freedom but in the real World there are tough choices to be made. The UK has a proud record of standing up to terrorism at home ( A lot of which was funded by misguided Irish citizens in the USA) and its citizens have been pretty stoic over the years but it does have some security implications.
There is no doubt that on occasions some dumb detective or security guard will wildly overeact but the fact that this immediately makes front page news is an obvious indication that we are far from a police state.
Terrorism works on a fear principle, it is designed to stop people from going about their ordinary lives but this has never succeeded in Britain, rather different in the USA where you collectively shat yourself after one attack and proceeded to further destabilise the World with your ridiculous 'war on terror'.

Most major events in the World, from Hitler taking control of Germany, to the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, to the Israeli attack on the Liberty engineered by President Johnson, to the trains attacks in Spain and Underground explosions in England have been traced back to False Flag Operations, perpetrated by the respective Governments against their own people to control them through FEAR...


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... or%2Bstorm

[GreecePwns]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

well gee, I thought a person like yourself being from London and all would care. Unless you kiss the boots that kick you.

Gives meaning to the word lackie. Must be the type of person that would bend over and take an RFID up the bloody arse.

Well thats the problem with living in a country that is so insular I suppose, you know very little about the rest of the World and simply quote whatever is convenient to your narrow minded views. Comic boy and I both happen to live in London and have lived with the effects of terrorism all our lives, this contrasts sharply with most Americans who will never be affected by it. For the record we both despise the present government though with Blair gone there is a ray of light, getting involved in Iraq was a huge blunder and ordinary people have ended up paying the price. Its all very well for some fool to sit in his house across the Atlantic,polishing his guns and spouting off about freedom but in the real World there are tough choices to be made. The UK has a proud record of standing up to terrorism at home ( A lot of which was funded by misguided Irish citizens in the USA) and its citizens have been pretty stoic over the years but it does have some security implications.
There is no doubt that on occasions some dumb detective or security guard will wildly overeact but the fact that this immediately makes front page news is an obvious indication that we are far from a police state.
Terrorism works on a fear principle, it is designed to stop people from going about their ordinary lives but this has never succeeded in Britain, rather different in the USA where you collectively shat yourself after one attack and proceeded to further destabilise the World with your ridiculous 'war on terror'.

Most major events in the World, from Hitler taking control of Germany, to the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran, to the Israeli attack on the Liberty engineered by President Johnson, to the trains attacks in Spain and Underground explosions in England have been traced back to False Flag Operations, perpetrated by the respective Governments against their own people to control them through FEAR...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...rror%2Bsto rm

Nice video. When you see ... in a link do you really think its gonna work? Why not type something instead of copying and pasting for once?

[vtmarik]

That's too bad Coleman. One of the reasons that America is the greatest country in the world is that it has cared about the rights of people around the world.

Except for political and religious dissidents in China, the victims of genocide in Rawanda and Darfur, wrongly imprisoned South Vietnamese and South Koreans during police actions, the victims at My Lai...

Just to name a few.

[GreecePwns]

That's too bad Coleman. One of the reasons that America is the greatest country in the world is that it has cared about the rights of people around the world.

Except for political and religious dissidents in China, the victims of genocide in Rawanda and Darfur, wrongly imprisoned South Vietnamese and South Koreans during police actions, the victims at My Lai...

Just to name a few.

The Mexicans that pretty much keep the economy from grinding to a halt are the real problem...bigger than all of these.

[joecoolfrog]

Why the need to debate an issue when you can just trot out another conspiracy video........Xtra is insanity a big problem in your family

[joecoolfrog]

That's too bad Coleman. One of the reasons that America is the greatest country in the world is that it has cared about the rights of people around the world.

Except for political and religious dissidents in China, the victims of genocide in Rawanda and Darfur, wrongly imprisoned South Vietnamese and South Koreans during police actions, the victims at My Lai...

Just to name a few.

The Mexicans that pretty much keep the economy from grinding to a halt are the real problem...bigger than all of these.

The great economic crisis in the Xtra clan happened during the terrible winter of 97, a vicious snowstorm kept them trapped in their cabin for the best part of a fortnight. The subsequent overdue video rental charges all but crippled them and they were forced into taking desperate measures to alleviate the problem. Though paying well, the medical experiments have clearly left a mark on Xtra, though it was renting his homestead out to wealthy Latino immigrants that I think eventually pushed him over the edge

[xtratabasco]

another boot kissor

[joecoolfrog]

another boot kissor

Guess all those snowstorms affected your schooling as well, have you considered internet literacy courses ?

[Nobunaga]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

... rather different in the USA where you collectively shat yourself after one attack and proceeded to further destabilise the World with your ridiculous 'war on terror'.

... 3000 folks died that day, sh*thead.

... You make good points, but to belittle 3000 civillian deaths from a terror attack is just an assh*le thing to do.

...

[DangerBoy]

One of the reasons that America is the greatest country in the world is that it has cared about the rights of people around the world. You see, it does affect you in a practical way, it's just not an immediate effect and therefore not obvious to you.

You better not let Neutrino see this.

[comic boy]

Who gives a Flying f*ck....

... rather different in the USA where you collectively shat yourself after one attack and proceeded to further destabilise the World with your ridiculous 'war on terror'.

... 3000 folks died that day, sh*thead.

... You make good points, but to belittle 3000 civillian deaths from a terror attack is just an assh*le thing to do.

...

Oh for fucks sake sober up,where did I belittle anybody that died ?
Those deaths were a tragedy but the response was typically gung - ho and has simply led to far far more innocent people dying!

[Nobunaga]

you collectively shat yourself after one attack

... like it's nothing to look twice at ... Oh well, hell, WE've been dealing with terrorism all our lives.. yada yada ...

... I don't actually disagree with your points, but ... damn ..

...

[silvanricky]

Oh for fucks sake sober up,where did I belittle anybody that died ? Those deaths were a tragedy but the response was typically gung - ho and has simply led to far far more innocent people dying!

Why did you not mention the over 19,000 bad guys that have also been killed? Is it gung-ho to kill terrorists?

[comic boy]

you collectively shat yourself after one attack

... like it's nothing to look twice at ... Oh well, hell, WE've been dealing with terrorism all our lives.. yada yada ...

... I don't actually disagree with your points, but ... damn ..

...

Look I can see your point but you are reading that sentence out of context, the USA homeland had been lucky enough at that point to escape the terrorist outrages that had been going on for generations and it stunned them. It wasnt just the scale of the attack it was the realisation that some pip squeak ragheads could cause something so monstrous to happen to a mighty superpower, it offended their pride and cut deep into the American physche. Now the desire for revenge is understandable but it is the job of those in Government to supress personal outrage and instigate the most effective long term solution. Instead Bush and his cronies chose to go down the popularist route ( useful with an election coming up ) and whipped up a storm of threatened retribution, all good patriotic stuff thats as useful in beating terrorism as slapping it with a small wet fish. 9/11 was reprehensible but you cannot beat terrorism with violence alone, you must appeal to hearts and minds and erode their support. I appologise to anybody I upset with my earlier remark but the point I was trying to make was that Americans took it too personally,terrorists will aim for the target that will cause the greatest uproar and New York just happened to draw the short straw. The tragedy is that it was the US response that has handed the fanatics a propoganda victory that far outweighs anything that the hijackers originaly achieved.

[comic boy]

Oh for fucks sake sober up,where did I belittle anybody that died ? Those deaths were a tragedy but the response was typically gung - ho and has simply led to far far more innocent people dying!

Why did you not mention the over 19,000 bad guys that have also been killed? Is it gung-ho to kill terrorists?

I sincerely doubt that there were 19,000 armed terrorists worldwide before the Invasion of Iraq, you have created a monster with more arms than you can ever cut off.