Sterotypes

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:00 am

Stereotypes must be slightly true because they had to be true for a large number of a certain group for some time for them to become well known. For example the stereotype that Asians are bad drives i find to be quite true because I live in an area of San Diego with about 85% Asian population and 9 times out of ten that someone cuts you off or runs a stop sign is, you guessed it, Asians. now I don't think it has to do with race, i think it has to do with upbringing. Many of the drivers are first generation immigrants that's families never had cars and driving is a relatively new experience and the rules of the road aren't ingrained in them since the time they were born. So my point is are stereotypes completely wrong to assume?

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:02 am

And another on Asians (not bad mind), tend to get incredibly high grades and are in advanced classes (from what I have seen at my schools).

Not all are bad, and many are based in fact.

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:07 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:And another on Asians (not bad mind), tend to get incredibly high grades and are in advanced classes (from what I have seen at my schools).

Not all are bad, and many are based in fact.

i think that it is mostly because their parents force them because many go through hell getting here and they want their kids to be successful

Twill · Post by **Twill** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:11 am

Tread carefully my friends. I'll be back to check on this thread in the morning

Have a good one, may it be no-no free
Twill

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:11 am

From what I hear, most Chinese don't learn how to drive until they come to the States... at least that's what the Chinese girl I work with told me.

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:12 am

Twill wrote::roll:

Tread carefully my friends. I'll be back to check on this thread in the morning

Have a good one, may it be no-no free
Twill

So I guess Mind of Mencia is out then?

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:13 am

They probably don't. Most countries don't have nearly as many cars as the US.

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:14 am

Twill wrote::roll:

Tread carefully my friends. I'll be back to check on this thread in the morning

Have a good one, may it be no-no free
Twill

this isn't supposed to be a discussion on racial stereotyping, it's more about is stereotyping wrong when it can be true quite often

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:15 am

strike wolf wrote:They probably don't. Most countries don't have nearly as many cars as the US.

MOst countries don't have nearly as many people as the US. Russia has the next closest I think, while only India and China surpass us in population.

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:27 am

wicked wrote:From what I hear, most Chinese don't learn how to drive until they come to the States... at least that's what the Chinese girl I work with told me.

mostly true in 2002 there were only 2.4 cars per capita in chinahttp://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/percapita_car_o.htmlmost people are not likely to own cars

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:35 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
strike wolf wrote:They probably don't. Most countries don't have nearly as many cars as the US.
MOst countries don't have nearly as many people as the US. Russia has the next closest I think, while only India and China surpass us in population.

If you consider the UU as a country, then it beats the US in terms of population.

Also, Russia's population is pretty small. 9th overall.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:38 am

What's UU?

And most developing countries use bikes to get around (Such as many countries in Asia). Though I don't normally call countries like that developing, as they are normally developed just to survive.

Anyway.. Let's see some stereotypes that I just hates.

Teenage stereotypes, oh man oh man.
Racial stereotypes..
Sexual stereotypes
Age stereotypes

Hmm, all the stereotypes I normally don't like..

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:49 am

Skittles! wrote:What's UU?

And most developing countries use bikes to get around (Such as many countries in Asia). Though I don't normally call countries like that developing, as they are normally developed just to survive.

Anyway.. Let's see some stereotypes that I just hates.

Teenage stereotypes, oh man oh man.
Racial stereotypes..
Sexual stereotypes
Age stereotypes

Hmm, all the stereotypes I normally don't like..

Think he meant the EU. But, I don't count that as a single country.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:18 am

Bah, I meant EU.

And I agree, steriotypes in general are crap. I have yet to see any that are accurate.
Even for the driving one: How can several billion people be predominantly bad drivers? Even if they had little experience with cars when they came to the US, they would quickly learn.

I think it's more an adaptation to their surroundings. Everyone around you drives badly, so you drive badly. Being Asian has nothing to do with it.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:29 am

Neutrino wrote:Bah, I meant EU.

And I agree, steriotypes in general are crap. I have yet to see any that are accurate.
Even for the driving one: How can several billion people be predominantly bad drivers? Even if they had little experience with cars when they came to the US, they would quickly learn.

I think it's more an adaptation to their surroundings. Everyone around you drives badly, so you drive badly. Being Asian has nothing to do with it.

Didn't know you were Asian Neutrino :wink:

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:35 am

Iliad wrote:Didn't know you were Asian Neutrino

Ha! I'm not. Im actually Finnish :wink:

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:35 am

Neutrino wrote:
Iliad wrote:Didn't know you were Asian Neutrino

Ha! I'm not. Im actually Finnish

I was just kidding but whatever

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:36 am

Neutrino wrote:
Iliad wrote:Didn't know you were Asian Neutrino

Ha! I'm not. Im actually Finnish

HA! I now know where you get your last name from :lol:

Anarchy Ninja · Post by **Anarchy Ninja** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:54 am

magneticgoop wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:And another on Asians (not bad mind), tend to get incredibly high grades and are in advanced classes (from what I have seen at my schools).

Not all are bad, and many are based in fact.
i think that it is mostly because their parents force them because many go through hell getting here and they want their kids to be successful

I never study and get mainly A's or high B's

and I drive well, both stereotypes gone right there :lol:

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Back to the question of stereotypes good/bad, I think they are only bad when people take them seriously or rely on them for broad information on specific cultures. They can be fine if it's just a friendly joke, like blonde jokes :wink:

Norse · Post by **Norse** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:02 am

Twill wrote::roll:

Tread carefully my friends. I'll be back to check on this thread in the morning

Have a good one, may it be no-no free
Twill

You penis.

I hope you choke on your tongue.

neoni · Post by **neoni** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:06 am

Neutrino wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
strike wolf wrote:They probably don't. Most countries don't have nearly as many cars as the US.
MOst countries don't have nearly as many people as the US. Russia has the next closest I think, while only India and China surpass us in population.

If you consider the UU as a country, then it beats the US in terms of population.

Also, Russia's population is pretty small. 9th overall.

but if you consider the EU a country then you are an idiot

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:53 am

neoni wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
strike wolf wrote:They probably don't. Most countries don't have nearly as many cars as the US.
MOst countries don't have nearly as many people as the US. Russia has the next closest I think, while only India and China surpass us in population.

If you consider the UU as a country, then it beats the US in terms of population.

Also, Russia's population is pretty small. 9th overall.

but if you consider the EU a country then you are an idiot

Or Wikipedia.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:20 am

magneticgoop wrote:
wicked wrote:From what I hear, most Chinese don't learn how to drive until they come to the States... at least that's what the Chinese girl I work with told me.
mostly true in 2002 there were only 2.4 cars per capita in chinahttp://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/percapita_car_o.htmlmost people are not likely to own cars

2.4 per 100, not capita.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:22 am

I love stereotypes. About all sorts of things. Oh, the giggles I get reinforcing them.

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:23 am

btownmeggy wrote:
magneticgoop wrote:
wicked wrote:From what I hear, most Chinese don't learn how to drive until they come to the States... at least that's what the Chinese girl I work with told me.
mostly true in 2002 there were only 2.4 cars per capita in chinahttp://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/05/percapita_car_o.htmlmost people are not likely to own cars

2.4 per 100, not capita.

your right :oops: