Wandlore Battles Kalish out. Hogwart wins!

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:50 pm

May have seemed like an over-reaction, I was pissed off about the rugby when I wrote that lol.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:59 pm

spurgistan wrote:Nagerous seems to be overreacting to a straw man argument (mandy, I feel like the usage of the word "us" can definitely refer to "the town and myself), in this case.

Why don't you ask Koesen if that's a weak argument? It worked on him on Day 1 of Re-Inquisition (although it took the Town a few more days to nail him, so the Mafia won in the end

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Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:41 pm

nagerous wrote:No you didn't... Its just your ego talking.

It's hard not for his ego to talk. As it makes up 25% of Mandy. Along with 25% STupidity, and 50% Star Wars.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:42 pm

nagerous wrote:May have seemed like an over-reaction, I was pissed off about the rugby when I wrote that lol.

It could be true, or maybe an excuse. Fos: Nag

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:55 am

Fircoal wrote:
nagerous wrote:No you didn't... Its just your ego talking.
It's hard not for his ego to talk. As it makes up 25% of Mandy. Along with 25% STupidity, and 50% Star Wars.

I love how you misspelt 'stupidity'.

Artistic!

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:38 am

Vote: Nagerous

1. He's overreacting to a minor attack.
2. I can't see anyone better (Day 2 is often just as random as Day 1, but disguised better)
3. The game has slowed down a bit and a lynch may get it moving properly again.
4. Mandy said so.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:02 am

All dumb reasons for voting me, people could vote you just for the same reasons. The way I see it, scum are already weakened and therefore likely to be submarining so how about you look in that direction as to the numerous people who haven't even bothered to post on day 2

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:06 am

nagerous wrote:All dumb reasons for voting me, people could vote you just for the same reasons. The way I see it, scum are already weakened and therefore likely to be submarining so how about you look in that direction as to the numerous people who haven't even bothered to post on day 2

I don't think there are that many scum.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:08 am

Well for starters, has anyone seen trestain?

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:22 am

Meh, both arguments are weak.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:58 am

I'll Vote Trestain I don't really know if he'd submarine as scum but he sure was way more active than that in NJO.
The Nag approach is way too random for my taste.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:27 am

Yes, everything is weak.

FTR, I haven't been submarining, Friday - Saturday, I don't post, and Saturday night I got sick.

Got Tonkaed is missing too, if you're going to pick on Trestain. Haven't seen Kalish either. So, on that note.... VOTE: Kalish

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:35 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
nagerous wrote:No you didn't... Its just your ego talking.
It's hard not for his ego to talk. As it makes up 25% of Mandy. Along with 25% STupidity, and 50% Star Wars.
I love how you misspelt 'stupidity'. Artistic!

hey, I'm 50% Insanity 50% Pikachu

I'm not supposed to spell correctly.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:41 am

ga7 wrote:I'll Vote Trestain I don't really know if he'd submarine as scum but he sure was way more active than that in NJO.
The Nag approach is way too random for my taste.

odd this had nothing to do with my thought now but it inclunenced it. It does seem that Nag is randomly going from person to person trying to find someway to get the bandwagon off of him, instead of trying to find some good hard proof. And his defenses, seems again like weak shake off attempts. Vote: Nagerous

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:54 am

I'll need to reread this tonight when I get back to New Orleans and on cable as I'm heading to my grandmother's right now and only have dialup here.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:31 pm

Fircoal wrote:
ga7 wrote:I'll Vote Trestain I don't really know if he'd submarine as scum but he sure was way more active than that in NJO.
The Nag approach is way too random for my taste.
odd this had nothing to do with my thought now but it inclunenced it. It does seem that Nag is randomly going from person to person trying to find someway to get the bandwagon off of him, instead of trying to find some good hard proof. And his defenses, seems again like weak shake off attempts. Vote: Nagerous

FOS Fircoal for trying to create a bandwagon against me. If you read ga's post hes actually saying the votes against me are way too random. Anyways wasn't it mandy who initially called you as scummy and it odd how pancake had not reacted to your obvious bandwagon attempts?

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:52 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
spurgistan wrote:Nagerous seems to be overreacting to a straw man argument (mandy, I feel like the usage of the word "us" can definitely refer to "the town and myself), in this case.
Why don't you ask Koesen if that's a weak argument? It worked on him on Day 1 of Re-Inquisition (although it took the Town a few more days to nail him, so the Mafia won in the end )

It is a weak argument. I use 'we' and 'us' when I'm town too. And town never nailed me in Re-Inquisition anyway. Or elsewhere. In fact, the only time I was ever lynched, it was by scum. What was his name again? Something girly with an M...

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:09 pm

I feel like a zombie. Way to much drinking and late nights this weekend.

Anywho; nagerous, mandalorian is playing 'rope-a-dope' with you. Any old-school boxing or MMA fan knows this trick well. First, you make someone start fighting on your terms where they aren't quite comfortable, then you prolong the fight as long as possible with weak jabs and feints, never using your true strength until you've got your opponent too worked up and worn out to be much of a fight, then you move in for the kill. A useful tactic when employed by a master tactician like mandalorian.

nagerous showed weakness (defensiveness) with mando's first push so now he's leaning harder. It should be fun to watch, but will probably end up proving nothing. Dunno who's on what side of it but I can recognize game (think hustla) when someone brings it, I'm a white boy with Russian/German heritage who lives in the ghetto; you think I don't get at least one attempt at being hustled every day?

Or maybe, just maybe, my brain is completely fried from a day of general abuse, be it alcoholic or otherwise, and I'm speaking complete jibberish right now and I'm typing the word cat, over and over and over. I'll never know till I re-read later.

So feel free to call me out for submarining more, but I'm probably gonna go back to sleep, may or may not make it back on tonight.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:13 pm

kalishnikov wrote:I'm speaking complete jibberish right now and I'm typing the word cat, over and over and over.

This, nearly, at least.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:21 pm

Koesen wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
spurgistan wrote:Nagerous seems to be overreacting to a straw man argument (mandy, I feel like the usage of the word "us" can definitely refer to "the town and myself), in this case.
Why don't you ask Koesen if that's a weak argument? It worked on him on Day 1 of Re-Inquisition (although it took the Town a few more days to nail him, so the Mafia won in the end )
It is a weak argument. I use 'we' and 'us' when I'm town too. And town never nailed me in Re-Inquisition anyway. Or elsewhere. In fact, the only time I was ever lynched, it was by scum. What was his name again? Something girly with an M...

So, you deny that I saw through your act on Day 1 of Re-Inquisition. Do you want a qoute?

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:31 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:So, you deny that I saw through your act on Day 1 of Re-Inquisition. Do you want a qoute?

I don't remember the details, but I'm willing to take your word for you accusing me of being scum on Day One. I am not denying that. Reaching the correct conclusion, however, does not always mean the reasoning itself was sound. You say somebody who says 'us' instead of town is likely to be scum. I say I have said 'us' in both situations. Ergo, this line of thought is extremely dubious, even if statistics alone demand you're going to be right in about 25% of the cases.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:47 am

I don't even remember making that post yesterday, awesome...

Everyone is submarining. Thats pretty much all I've got to say.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:55 am

unvote vote trestain

Kalish's statement about everyone submarining definitely hit the nail on the head. Reading through the scene, most people were willing to trust JND's statement as if he was either a daycop or else a godfather type trying to off one of his own that he thought was an userper. As such, this day 1 really didn't give us much information other then actually killing off two scum

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:43 pm

Well, if it helps to get things moving again, I can go along with that kind of logic. Town is winning right now(TAKE THAT DEATHEATERS!) so what the heck. Vote - - - trestain

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:57 pm

Talapus wrote:Well, if it helps to get things moving again, I can go along with that kind of logic. Town is winning right now(TAKE THAT DEATHEATERS!) so what the heck. Vote - - - trestain

we dont need to get anything moving right now....we are winning and nagerous is under investigation, so lets not go lynch someone else to end the day.