Ex's 7 player Song Mafia - Mafia Win!

[kalishnikov]

80 page day 1 was ridiculous in NJO. Being the stupid guy I am, I replaced day 2 so I had to read the whole damn thing in like 1 day...

But we're getting away from the topic at hand here, whether or not g_t's argument make's sense. IMO, there are pros and cons to both sides but I'm not gonna go with it as I don't wanna see us lynch our doc or something good day 1 because he was 'the least helpful player.' I'd rather wait it out a bit and see if we get any decent leads first, we can always fall back on this idea if nothing presents it's self.

I'd rather error on the side of caution in a small game like this.

[got tonkaed]

i guess with most people not named mando responding at this point we can at least look at the sum total of the reactions to the statement as follows.

Those adamantly opposed to it
AD: gave a rationale for this being a scum tell
Fircoal : did not approve of it makes arguments against it
Spin: for the somewhat obvious reason, that i both claimed he was the worst player in this game and voted for him.

Those who didnt like it but wanted to hold off...
Kwanton: attached a is this finally tonkas guilty day, and echoed sentiments that we can find better arguments.
Kalish: would be willing to consider the idea eventually, but felt we had better options, and that we cant risk losing a power role.

Those who are subing and have no opinon about my votes...
mando

[kwanton]

i guess with most people not named mando responding at this point we can at least look at the sum total of the reactions to the statement as follows.

Those adamantly opposed to it
AD: gave a rationale for this being a scum tell
Fircoal : did not approve of it makes arguments against it
Spin: for the somewhat obvious reason, that i both claimed he was the worst player in this game and voted for him.

Those who didnt like it but wanted to hold off...
Kwanton: attached a is this finally tonkas guilty day, and echoed sentiments that we can find better arguments.
Kalish: would be willing to consider the idea eventually, but felt we had better options, and that we cant risk losing a power role.

Those who are subing and have no opinon about my votes...
mando

upgrade me. I won't vote based on ur reasoning unless we reach some sort of stalemate.

[got tonkaed]

false....your rationale fits perfectly within the parameter....

im not claiming your scum because of it, just organizing information.

[Fircoal]

i guess with most people not named mando responding at this point we can at least look at the sum total of the reactions to the statement as follows.

Those adamantly opposed to it
AD: gave a rationale for this being a scum tell
Fircoal : did not approve of it makes arguments against it
Spin: for the somewhat obvious reason, that i both claimed he was the worst player in this game and voted for him.

Those who didnt like it but wanted to hold off...
Kwanton: attached a is this finally tonkas guilty day, and echoed sentiments that we can find better arguments.
Kalish: would be willing to consider the idea eventually, but felt we had better options, and that we cant risk losing a power role.

Those who are subing and have no opinon about my votes...
mando

uh, how are me and Kalish in too different groups, when our reasoning is basicilly the same, as I said in both of my posts, I would follow that if it came down to the end of the deadline, but right now we can look for scumm tells.

[kalishnikov]

i guess with most people not named mando responding at this point we can at least look at the sum total of the reactions to the statement as follows.

Those adamantly opposed to it
AD: gave a rationale for this being a scum tell
Fircoal : did not approve of it makes arguments against it
Spin: for the somewhat obvious reason, that i both claimed he was the worst player in this game and voted for him.

Those who didnt like it but wanted to hold off...
Kwanton: attached a is this finally tonkas guilty day, and echoed sentiments that we can find better arguments.
Kalish: would be willing to consider the idea eventually, but felt we had better options, and that we cant risk losing a power role.

Those who are subing and have no opinon about my votes...
mando

Yea, I think that's pretty accurate.



Now someone do something scummy.

[kwanton]

false....your rationale fits perfectly within the parameter....

im not claiming your scum because of it, just organizing information.

hrm ok. I was just thinking that the situation in which I would vote based on your reasoning is unlikely to happen in this game.

[got tonkaed]

well considering kalish seemed to think it was accurate id say its a matter of perception as far as how you read what is written. In your posts you seem much more against it than kalish did, feel free to organize them however youd like.

[Fircoal]

meh true enough. ARgueing this will get us no where. (Except it might get Exile mad, which would be funny.

[kwanton]

Whatever. I think we can all agree that most of us are against this idea for now.

[kalishnikov]

well considering kalish seemed to think it was accurate id say its a matter of perception as far as how you read what is written. In your posts you seem much more against it than kalish did, feel free to organize them however youd like.

Thats exactly what it is. I re-read a bit and think Fir has similar feelings to mine, just expressed them differently.

Not that it's really here nor there because it doesn't get us any closer to a lynch, but it is somewhat important as far as motivations/intentions go.

[got tonkaed]

unvote, Vote fircoal

I happen to think he is currently shielding either kalish or kwanton...with kwanton being more likely. Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them. Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

[Fircoal]

Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

wrongo, I don't mean stop the conversation on your lynch idea, I mean stop the organization of who thought what. We got the basic things down, we don't need to debate anymore on it. We should focus on scum tells instead.

[kwanton]

unvote, Vote fircoal

I happen to think he is currently shielding either kalish or kwanton...with kwanton being more likely. Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them. Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

It's a stretch but I'll take it.

Stop protecting me fircoal

Well I already have my vote on him so GT puts him at lynch-1 I think.

[Fircoal]

Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them..

uh, I didn't know either one meant more dangerous. As far as this goes, you and MAndy are in the more dangerous categories, as you came up with it and MAndy is always scum and a submariner.

[kalishnikov]

unvote, Vote fircoal

I happen to think he is currently shielding either kalish or kwanton...with kwanton being more likely. Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them. Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

Actually, as far as day 1 logic goes, that isn't bad g_t.

I'm gonna hold my vote for right now as I wanna see what the others have to say first, but I think it's the best lead so far.

[Fircoal]

unvote, Vote fircoal

I happen to think he is currently shielding either kalish or kwanton...with kwanton being more likely. Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them. Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

Actually, as far as day 1 logic goes, that isn't bad g_t.

I'm gonna hold my vote for right now as I wanna see what the others have to say first, but I think it's the best lead so far.

uh, you are slow. (I mean in getting to posts, me and kwan both already posted some. )

[kwanton]

See? I told ya we could get some good arguments on day and we wouldn't have to lynch spin since he's "not as helpful" or whatever that means.

[kalishnikov]

unvote, Vote fircoal

I happen to think he is currently shielding either kalish or kwanton...with kwanton being more likely. Essentially once i put out that little critera for willingness to sacrifice a player kalish and kwanton were probably in the potentially most danerous categeory. Kalish didnt seem to have much of a problem with this, while kwanton has been somewhat bothered by it. Fircoal then argued essentially that the groups were in some way off, which i think was used to discredit them. Then he and kwanton both suggested we stop talking about it, when it probably had produced the only thing to give off information from every player expect mando so far.

Actually, as far as day 1 logic goes, that isn't bad g_t.

I'm gonna hold my vote for right now as I wanna see what the others have to say first, but I think it's the best lead so far.

uh, you are slow. (I mean in getting to posts, me and kwan both already posted some. )

lol, it's so true.



I'd feel much better at least having a bit of logic behind our lynch then just picking someone who seems less-helpful, but I think I get it now g_t, that whole thing was a smart play (even smarter if your scum).

[got tonkaed]

it would have been an exceptionally smart play if it ended up killing a scum, because if i didnt get investigated the night after id probably be clear for the rest of the game.

[Fircoal]

it would have been an exceptionally smart play if it ended up killing a scum, because if i didnt get investigated the night after id probably be clear for the rest of the game.

but if you keep your vote on me, it won't kill a scum.

[ga7]

Vote Exile this is looking interesting

[kwanton]

Vote Exile this is looking interesting

haha too bad u didn't get in ga.

This so far the best mafia game I've been in in a while.

[got tonkaed]

it would have been an exceptionally smart play if it ended up killing a scum, because if i didnt get investigated the night after id probably be clear for the rest of the game.

but if you keep your vote on me, it won't kill a scum.

once i feel sure of that ill take it off of course.

[Fircoal]

Vote Exile this is looking interesting

HA HA! You didn't get in Frenchie-chan.