Wandlore Battles Kalish out. Hogwart wins!

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:40 am

ga7 wrote:
Neutrino wrote:Sorry about not posting yesterday (physics assignment)

Rereading, I still fail to see how Mandy is confirmed town. In fact, pulling off a fake counter-claim on someone you haven't actually detirmined to be scum is a destinctly scummy tactic.

To all those who accuse me of vote hopping: I just want to get the early game over and done with. The chance of catching scum is negligible and bandwagons with shoddy logic as their basis abound.
I much prefer mid-to-late game. At least there it is possible to discover the scum, not just wait 'til the laws of probability catch up with them.
Even having missed when they did what they shouldn't do, it should be obvious for a real town how he is cleared. My vote stays, since on top of that you just want to make a diva entrance on day 4.
I know we have some leverage, but that doesn't mean we should wagon for nothing. Fircoal is an option, but to me not the best one.

How?

As far as I can tell, the basis for the assumption that Mandy is town rests entirely upon the fact that Freezie seems unwilling to kill him. What if Freezie didn't consider his crime (the posts-which-did-not-occur) large enough to warrant a modkill? Hell, he said he's willing to change a few roles around. Whats to stop him kiling mandy and making a deatheater replacement?

If Mandy's presumed innocence is based upon the-posts-that-did-not-occur, then how can I be blamed for not considering information I had no knowledge of.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:15 am

Mandy is town for today at least - that is certain.

Freezie may change win conditions to make him scummy, but I doubt that'll happen mid-day.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:16 am

Neutrino wrote:As far as I can tell, the basis for the assumption that Mandy is town rests entirely upon the fact that Freezie seems unwilling to kill him.

No, it rests on more than that.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:18 am

Fircoal wrote:
Koesen wrote:I can't prove it anymore, but I am absolutely 100% convinced that Mandy is town. Today, at least.
nice so your saying that you're not sure that he's town. You know that we aren't lynching him today.

1) I am sure he's town.

2) I said it because there are still people who are questioning him.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:26 am

Syzygy wrote:Mandy is town for today at least - that is certain.

Freezie may change win conditions to make him scummy, but I doubt that'll happen mid-day.

I agree with both of these thoughts.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:15 pm

Er...did we lynch anyone yet?

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:23 pm

Could we have a vote count and do we have a deadline or I totally confused of game?

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:18 pm

Unvote
Vote Neutrino

So that something may actually happen again.

I think that puts him at 7 and -1.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:00 pm

This game is grinding to a halt quickly.

My vote is unchanged.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:06 pm

unvote
Vote: Neut

just make it the next day.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:22 pm

Vota Counta:

Neutrino (8 ) Nag, Serbia, dustn, ga7, syzygy, lsu, koesen, fircoal
Mandy (1) Neut
Fircoal (2) Mandy, talapus.

With 16 alives it takes 9 to lynch.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:28 pm

Neutrino wrote: As far as I can tell, the basis for the assumption that Mandy is town rests entirely upon the fact that Freezie seems unwilling to kill him. What if Freezie didn't consider his crime (the posts-which-did-not-occur) large enough to warrant a modkill? Hell, he said he's willing to change a few roles around. Whats to stop him kiling mandy and making a deatheater replacement?

Answering to that, I can.

The fact I am not modkilling any of them is simply based on the unclearness of my rules, which koesen bypassed. The fact I didn't allow it anyway engaged thbat whole mess, therefor the editing of Mandy and koesen posts.

I do not want to modkill, because it would be partly my fault. On both koesen and mandy's case.

I also hate modkills, therefor I am finding ways of eliminating the effects koesen's error had on the game.

The offense would have been enough for a modkill, except my rules weren't clear enough. As we speak, anyone doing the same thing would be immediatly modkilled, no exceptions.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:48 am

Someone please hammer and tell me I got lynched 3 scum in a row lately.

Fir you tried to hammer, but it can't hurt to wait for a name claim no?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:00 am

ga7 wrote:Someone please hammer and tell me I got lynched 3 scum in a row lately.
Fir you tried to hammer, but it can't hurt to wait for a name claim no?

yes I did, but I forgot about claiming, I think it's a good idea, I only knew until I thought too late.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:26 am

Bah. Unvote Vote Neutrino. I hope that you're not a Bomb, Neut.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:41 am

Damnit. Should have spent less time taking turns and more time roleclaiming.

I would officially like to blame my poor performance in this game on the Education System. Probably shouldn't have been joining mafia games so close to exam time

Anyway, what little time I've had has been good. Good game, Freezie.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:52 am

Unvote, vote: Neutrino

I'm fairly sure that mandalorian dropped the hammer, but just to be sure. We need to get this day over with.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:57 am

Final Day 2 Vote Count:

Neutrino (9) Nag, Serbia, dustn, ga7, syzygy, lsu, koesen, fircoal, Mandy
Mandy (1) Neut
Fircoal (1) talapus.

Lynch scene will be up in..around 10 minutes. Or less.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:06 am

It was a fine day at the Hogwarth school, as 2 deatheaters already had been sent to Azkaban. The moral of the wizards was as it's peak, and deatheaters were crying in their corners like Squibs.

Even the Moggles were happy in the streets.

But even a fine day has it's probablems, as a ruckus between Koesen and Mandy ( It seems those 2 were trying to cast the rictussempra spell on each others, managing to break a few vases instead ) doing quite some noise in the upper levels broke the tranquility. We brought 6 teachers to stop this madness, each and all yelling at them to stop.

This is where it happened.

-He is a dEatHeATer!! He Is ScUM!! Don'T YoU SEE iT?!HAHaHaha We fOuNd Out oNe of tHOse DoGs!!! DeATH To tHE MUDblOOds!!

The word Mudblood echoed through hogwarth for an instant, then everyone turned at this newcomer.

In the matter of a second, she was tied up and threw in the dungeon, waiting her final trip back to where she belongs: Azkaban.

Neutrino--Bellatrix Lestrange (Deatheater) Has been lynched!

Night 2 is up. 48 hours for your actions.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:09 am

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:13 am

You may night speak if you wish..But no pure spam, and no substance.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:18 am

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:23 am

nagerous wrote:Haha

Was that no pure spam or no substance?

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:56 pm

If we kill all the scum and don't loose a townie, I demand that Freezie state "Perfect Victory" like Shang Tsung from Mortal Combat.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:24 pm

kalishnikov wrote:If we kill all the scum and don't loose a townie, I demand that Freezie state "Perfect Victory" like Shang Tsung from Mortal Combat.

I will write perfect town victory in the title, if it happens.