SNV1-Game Thread->Game over Town&Wisse win!

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:40 pm

Basically to summarize.

Only Cena or PCM is the godfather. [by the way the night actions add up, going into it might be complicated]

If Cena was town, Wisse = scum, but Wisse can't be scum if only Cena or PCM is the godfather.

As Cena's side is faulty, PCM is right. Cena = scum.

That easy enough?

Mafia make 25% of the population, so 12/4 = 3 scum.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:55 pm

But that's the thing, it's about claimed night actions there. It also depends on whether or not scum can still kill if the godfather is blocked, which is pretty much up to the mod. Add to that the fact town was pretty packed with power roles and backups... So I have still a little doubt. One point is pretty sure though, not both Cena and PCM can be scum.

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:36 pm

Well yeah, but one of them HAS to be scum, its the only way it could be possible. Also, I am basing my logic on claimed night actions, without them it would be useless.

This is assuming there is one scum of course. Its completely FOOLPROOF with one scum. With 2 scum its a random shot between Cena and PCM.

If both you are Cena are telling the truth, then Wisse is scum. If there is one scum left, and it has to be Cena or PCM, it cannot be Wisse.

If Wisse is scum, Cena or PCM is also scum.

Possible scenarios:
Cena is godfather and PCM blocked Cena
Wisse is godfather and PCM is mafia goon, Wisse couldn't kill himself.

Wisse cannot be a mafia goon if you are telling the truth, he would have to be godfather.

I see no other way. And a godfather wouldn't blatantly yell out survivor, he would claim a pro-town role, as when investigated he would be scanned as scum.

As having one scum left is more likely, there is basically like a 95% chance that Cena is scum [I'm making up numbers].

If there are two scums, that means we are at LYLO, and if Cena is town we can't get PCM next turn, because Mafia would have won. So either way we should take our chances with Cena, as the chances for reward are much greater.

Also, another thing, you asked him to switch you. He didn't [or at least he didn't claim he did], he must have forgotten because of a scum slip, as he wouldn't keep it to mind if he were scum. Its not foolproof logic, merely a bonus.

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:43 pm

Also, another thing, you asked him to switch you. He didn't [or at least he didn't claim he did], he must have forgotten because of a scum slip, as he wouldn't keep it to mind if he were scum. Its not foolproof logic, merely a bonus.

Well, the whole thing is close to foolproof, but the LAST thing is just a bonus that incriminates Cena even more.

Oh darn it, Cena is already lynched. We will see tomorrow.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:45 pm

Right, if Cena is pro town our chances are small either way. But I just don't buy Wisse doing no kill to screw us over, so... We should have this in the bag.
Except if you're actually a scum mason.

XGSuperstar · Post by **XGSuperstar** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:52 pm

Well, I wouldn't be going through this work if I was a scum mason, I would bandwagon on your "logic" and be done with it.

I am not scum mason, because I say so

, but there is no data that states either way to be honest, I was uninvolved with every single known night action except PCM's second blocking.

If Wisse did no kill, I would be so pissed.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:24 am

I see I was lynched so Ill come clean

I am the mafia Godfather

gg town

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:26 am

nj what's sad is when i died i told spin that i thought you 3 were the scum and was right although my only scum investigation was on fire hence why i had my vote on him so long b4 i died

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:46 am

Vote count
cena-rules-(PCM, ga7, XG) 3

cena-rules -(Mafia Godfather) has been lynched, rejoce town!

Game write up comeing soon

Town and wisse (Survivor) WIN!

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:24 am

nice! wohoo!

and btw i wasn't up then but you were all forgetting one thing that proves cena was scum:

he sayed earlyer he switched me and LSU wich meaned the mafia did want to kill me, why would they kill me if were scum.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:56 am

Spin's Game Writeup!

Intro-
This game started quite slowly but in the end came out as a interesting and well balenced game, I am happy it went this way and although SNV2 my be invite only many of you will be gettig invites. It was quite a noob mafia team (blame random.org) but they did well and was screwed by ga7 and PCM at the end.

Roles-
Mafia Godfather= cena-rules
Mafia Goon= fireedud
Mafia Goon= NESconqueror
Serial Killer= The1exile
Survivor= Wisse
Cop= LSU Tiger Josh
Deputy= ga7
Doctor= firth4eva
Nurse=0ojakeo0
Mason= freezie
Mason= XGSuperstar
Roleblocker= pancakemix

Night Actions-

Player Notes-
Mafia Godfather= cena-rules
Was active and almost survived but was screwed at the end.

Mafia Goon= fireedud
Inactive, played poorly won't be getting another invite.
Mafia Goon= NESconqueror
Inactive, played poorly won't be getting another invite. May need to lear haw to play abit better, left too mayy links between him, fire and cena.
Serial Killer= The1exile
Was killed N1 by the mafia, tryed to kill cena that night but he was the GF
Survivor= Wisse
Claimed Survivor day 1 then after that no one killed/ lynched him, proved a good tactic.
Cop= LSU Tiger Josh
Investigated Firedud but could not get him lynched before he was killed, PM'd me the names of all the scum the night he died.
Deputy= ga7
Used his investigations at the end to help the town.
Doctor= firth4eva
Got lynched day 1 without a claim, night spamed then left.
Nurse=0ojakeo0
Was very inactive, won't be getting a invite, forgot to use his protection after firth was killed even tho I kep pm'ing him.
Mason= freezie
Provided a insight into the game and put forward some good opinions.
Mason= XGSuperstar
Was cleared by freezies death and was a usefull player, will be getting future invites off me aslong as he is active.
Roleblocker= pancakemix
Was vry incative but used his roleblock to win it for the town.

Faction reports-
Town
Strugled at the start but battled through to win it.

Mafia
Left too many links between eachother and it told at the end.

Survivor
Claimed survivor early and went on to win.

Serial Killer
Did not have much chance to use his power, tryed to kill cena but could not.

Awards-
Best Player Award- XgSuperstar/ ga7 (They steered the game to its conclusion at the end.)
You Suck Award- 0ojakeo0 (Did not use his power)
Too much too late Award- LSU Tiger Josh (PM'd me the names of the scum after he died)
Deadbeat Award- 0ojakeo0

I hope you enjoyed reading this write up, feel free to post any comments

Spin!

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:02 am

actually me and fire talked a lot in pms at night deciding who to kill

ga7 was great

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:14 am

Meh, do u like the report

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:17 am

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:19 am

cena-rules wrote:yep

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:19 am

shall I start signups for the courtroom mafia yet?

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:20 am

cena-rules wrote:shall I start signups for the courtroom mafia yet?

Not for a while

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:25 am

hmm i can't see the pic of the night actions... i have a bad internet connection the last few days (i hate my provider, but well its the cheapest one and my dad doesn't want to change) could you upload it somewhere else or write it?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:26 am

That analysis was good.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:27 am

Wisse wrote:hmm i can't see the pic of the night actions... i have a bad internet connection the last few days (i hate my provider, but well its the cheapest one and my dad doesn't want to change) could you upload it somewhere else or write it?

I would prefer not too...

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:28 am

Where did the analysis go?

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:29 am

firth4eva wrote:Where did the analysis go?

??? still there i think

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:30 am

spinwizard wrote:
It was quite a noob mafia team

hey I resent this

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:33 am

spinwizard wrote:
firth4eva wrote:Where did the analysis go?
??? still there i think

I thought it was on the first page.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:33 am

cena-rules wrote:
spinwizard wrote:
It was quite a noob mafia team

hey I resent this

Not inc. u!