[Abandoned] - Ancient Japan

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:25 pm

Here is a post from teh Iwo Jima thread. The pictures how the differnt ways to make good looking smooth lines

Coleman wrote:Okay, here we go. This is the very last thing in our (moderators) eyes. You are free to respond however you wish but we would very much prefer you try to implement what we are about to show you.

First, this is your original image.

We believe you used a pencil effect to do this, possibly with vectors, like one of the three I'm going to show you here.

We all have agreed we would prefer it if you did one of the following and applied the effect to all the borders in the map.

Personally, I like the following one the most.

Now, while we strongly encourage you to apply one of the brush style borders across the map for consistency we will tolerate the current version. For my own position I never could identify the problem in the first place. For others the fact you aren't using a brush version is unpleasant. The end result is we decided to present these options before you, if you insist on using the current map and not making any changes, as cairnswk stated or at least alluded to we will probably quench the map in the near future. If you make the border changes we will quench very very quickly. As quickly as is possible.

When the changes are made, or if they are not, we still need to have you repost text links to the latest map images. The xml link in that post would be nice but I can add it since I hosted it anyways.

The examples were all done in photoshop 8, but other version should have similar features.

WM

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:41 pm

how do the out-lined borders look less pixels?

the other borders are REALLY pixely but i didnt fix them yet.

MasterKujacnbsh · Post by **MasterKujacnbsh** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:45 pm

much better! try some of the inside ones.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:06 pm

hows this?

MasterKujacnbsh · Post by **MasterKujacnbsh** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:07 pm

awesome! much better!

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:08 pm

thanks, what else do you see that needs fixed?

spiesr · Post by **spiesr** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:14 pm

Make the lines thinner again...

Gnome · Post by **Gnome** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:09 pm

good going Unit_2

I'll post you the .psd file so you can start working on your own

I'm still there if you need some help but I think it's better if you try to learn it your own

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:09 pm

spiesr wrote:Is this supposed to be ancient or modern Japan?
Subway tunnels and samurais don't exactly match...

Unit_2....i agree with spiesr on the mismatching of the two aspects noted above.
We have another japan map named Fuedal Japan in Map Ideas here, so could i ask you to find another background image instead of the samurai warrior please, there is plenty of images associated with Japan that could fit, even the classic Japanese Shrine would also be appropriate.

Some things i would like to see....

1. i would still prefer to the whole map in it's proper geographic layout into a 600 wide x 600 high....i'd like to see you try that if you would, as i stated previously perhaps an amalgamation of some of the territories would fix that.

2. good work on the those borders, and thanks to WM for pointing out that tutorial for you.

3. the legend....can you re-order the regions from top to bottom rather than from bottom to top....players look for that logical flow of information.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:32 pm

Make the lines thinner again...

i can't make the lines any thinner or there is pixels.

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spiesr wrote:
Is this supposed to be ancient or modern Japan?
Subway tunnels and samurais don't exactly match...

Unit_2....i agree with spiesr on the mismatching of the two aspects noted above.
We have another japan map named Fuedal Japan in Map Ideas here, so could i ask you to find another background image instead of the samurai warrior please, there is plenty of images associated with Japan that could fit, even the classic Japanese Shrine would also be appropriate.

Some things i would like to see....

1. i would still prefer to the whole map in it's proper geographic layout into a 600 wide x 600 high....i'd like to see you try that if you would, as i stated previously perhaps an amalgamation of some of the territories would fix that.

2. good work on the those borders, and thanks to WM for pointing out that tutorial for you.

3. the legend....can you re-order the regions from top to bottom rather than from bottom to top....players look for that logical flow of information.

ok, i will try to find a differnt back ground.

i tryed to make it the normal way that papan is layed out but there is no way to get it into a 600w x600t, i wanted to get it that way but there is no way to do it(atleast for me to do it).

thank you, i also want to thank WM for that help.

sure, thats minor so i should able to do it.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:17 pm

What you need to get out of Map Ideas (For Coleman)

Territory Names - Since this is a geographic map people will nitpick these to death once you get them placed. I'd go with cities in each area or major geological features.
Explain Stations on the map.
Show connections between mainland and other islands, or add stations to the two that don't have them.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:24 pm

Thanks coleman, i will proble have it done by tonight or tomorrow.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:48 pm

Poll Results

what texture do you like the best?
A 6% [ 1 ]
B 18% [ 3 ]
C 31% [ 5 ]
D 43% [ 7 ]

Total Votes : 16

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:26 pm

Unit_2 wrote:
Make the lines thinner again...
i can't make the lines any thinner or there is pixels.

I tend to use a 2 pixel brush myself on borders, but I also use softer colors. A dark brown 2 pixel border will look thinner than a black 2 pixel border. In this case you already have black in the color palette so you may want to stay with black, but play around.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:12 pm

ok how is this guys? ready to go into the foundry?

yes, i know there is pixels every where near the bourders but it won't be when i can find a good freakin' downloader

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:03 pm

Unit_2 wrote:yes, i know there is pixels every where near the bourders but it won't be when i can find a good freakin' downloader

Photobucket would work.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:03 pm

thats what i used

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:41 pm

Unit_2 wrote:thats what i used

Oh, then I don't know. Whenever I use Photobucket, it works fine.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:27 pm

unit_2

1. you haven't explained stations properly in the map. there is some weird looking things on the main island that look like pits, but they are notnoted in the instructions. i.e have graphic beside the stations explanation (i assume this is where they are suppoed to go)

2. same coloured dots can attack each other...can you explain these as islands links or ports or something. it would help to give people a better idea of game concept. and also make them two different colours, not two close versions of red....that can be seen as confusing.

3. There are some weak blue lines linking Shikoku with the mainland. can you also explain these in the instruction or make them the same as the coloured dots, afterall they serve the same purpose.

I must also say to you...when you get in the Foundry (after these changes above i have asked for) be prepared to be literally crucified to some extent. If you're prepared for that, then you might have a chance of getting this map up for play providing you don't get bored with it.

And i am not being overly harsh, condescending or mean by saying that, but it will help you with the determination and courage bit you'll need. By asking you to make these changes before you go in there, you'll appreciate what we have been trying to do towards helping you with some things in preparation.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:14 pm

ok, thanks alot for saying that, i will work on it tonight and will proble post it tommrow.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:19 pm

its not very modern, with all the samurai stuff... seems a bit confused.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:34 pm

Soldier in top left takes attention from eyes - suggest more transparent.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:45 pm

hows this? Better?

tim02 · Post by **tim02** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:51 pm

I think the dots should look better otherwise it's great nice updates and like the pic from last samurai

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:09 pm

Coleman wrote:What you need to get out of Map Ideas (For Coleman)
Territory Names - Since this is a geographic map people will nitpick these to death once you get them placed. I'd go with cities in each area or major geological features.

Explain Stations on the map.

Show connections between mainland and other islands, or add stations to the two that don't have them.

I believe with this recent update in the graphic post above, unit_2 has satisfied the requirement that were asked of him, and is progressing well with this map. I ask the Foundry to give to him a fair opportunity in the Foundry and enable him to learn what is necessary to have his map Quenched. Good Luck unit_2!

Consider your map, unit_2......

Moved to the Foundry