Hell in the Mushroom Kingdom *Town Win*

[kwanton]

Wow day is still on? I figured for sure it would be done by now.

I claim roleblocker. My role name is Oogtar the caveboy. Don't ask me. Apparently it's from the super mario cartoon.

[fireedud]

I'm back, but right now, I have no idea who to believe.

Oh and LS, I followed your advice.

[Sierra_Leon]

Oogtar?! Well, compared to a Dr Phil it's perfectly logical to have a role like that in the game.

For today, I'll settle for lynching a 3rd-party player. Vote MTG.

[Sierra_Leon]

DAY 1 Summary for lazy subs
Day 1 runs from page 1 to page 24.

For a long time, the Mushroom Kingdom had been a peaceful place, but misfortune has befallen it, and now the mafia strike. The entire town is in madness, and so begins the apocalyptic world of this mafia game.

As usual everybody voted fircoal or NES. NES roleclaimed at lynch -2, this was the votecount at that moment:

Vote Count :

• Fircoal (6) - kwanton, muy_thaiguy, Cena-rules, Nes, GreecePwns, life-saver
• Nesconqueror (9) - fireedud, dustn64, Sierra_Leon, freezie, F1fth, Chaimpie, jake, Adi, The Weird One
• life-saver (1) - Fircoal
• Adi39 (1) - LSU Tiger Josh
• kwanton (1) - spurgistan
• Pancake (1) - mr. incrediball
• Spurgistan (1) - pancakemix
• 0ojakeo0 (0)

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

And this was his claim:

Now I roleclaim! I am telling you... that I am indeed a doctor! Why else would I vote for fircoal? He could be a threat to a doctor like me...

He later added (after much confusion):

No kidding.

All right... So Maybe that was dumb, but I have one thing to say. My doc role was named doctor mario. (Gracious. even I was fooled for a bit at the "DOC" bit)

Jake made a very scummy comment which dustn64 picked up:

hes gonna die tonight......unless he is mafia i say why take the risk he is town?

ok this statement is very scummy. If we can keep our doc alive then why would we want to lynch him? If the mafia wants our doc dead they will kill him tonight. I will not be a part of the lynch of a inportant role for the town. BUT I will UNVOTE FOS LIFESAVER and VOTE JAKE

At this votecount...

Vote Count :

• 0ojakeo0 (8) - dustn64, F1fth, muy_thaiguy, GreecePwns, NESconqueror, Fircoal, Adi39, Sierra_Leon
• Nesconqueror (5) - freezie, Chaimpie, The Weird One, cena-rules, fireedud
• Fircoal (2) - kwanton, life-saver
• Adi39 (1) - LSU Tiger Josh
• kwanton (1) - spurgistan
• dustn64 (1) - 0ojakeo0

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

... Sierra FOSsed fireedud and firee responded by also claiming doc.

I'm back.

Unvote, vote jake.

If jake turns out scum, I'll have a big FOS ready on fireedud who jumped on NES without much of an explanation even after the dr. mario claim, and on cena for defending jake.

I didn't write an explanation? oops

I did that because I'm a doc, not doctor mario, but a different one (you wouldn't believe me if I told you the name). Then either I realized that there could be 2 docs or someone posted it. That's why I voted jake, then I voted NEs again for a different reason.

Then Sierra put the heat on fireedud, and fireedud added his rolename to his claim:

OMG did you just also claim doc?! At this point, that is completely retarded, especially when you've already admitted yourself that there might be 2 doctors. I don't think your retarded though, you seem to be quite a sensible young man. Therefor, I think you just made that up.

I'm going to unvote, vote fireedud, because:

1) reasoning above.

2) you said you "voted NES again for a different reason". That reason would be:

*Smiles toward fireedud*
I am proud of you.

Unvote Vote Nes once more.

That just made me think your gay and now I have 2 gay people liking me, you and my friend's neighbor(don't ask).

I don't call that an actual reason.

3) you also said "you wouldn't believe me if I told you the name". I find this very hard to believe, because not only does NES's claim match his role very well, but I also have an ability that suits my character very accurately. Why would your character not match your role, unless you are lying about your role?

I said you wouldn't believe me beacuse I am Doctor Phil (told ya).

I do beleive that the reason that I voted Nes is an actual reason. (why else would I say it?)

The Doctor Phil claim was accepted by most as being so ridiculous it has to be true.


At this votecount...

Vote Count :

• 0ojakeo0 (10) - F1fth, muy_thaiguy, GreecePwns, Fircoal, Adi39, freezie, LSU Tiger Josh, fireedud, dustn64, The Weird One
• fireedud (2) kwanton, Sierra_Leon
• Fircoal (1) - life-saver
• kwanton (1) - spurgistan
• dustn64 (1) - 0ojakeo0

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

... jake claimed Luigi (cop). Freezie said he was sure this was a lie and Sierra hammered jake.

Vote Count :

• 0ojakeo0 (11) - muy_thaiguy, GreecePwns, Fircoal, Adi39, LSU Tiger Josh, fireedud, dustn64, The Weird One, F1fth, freezie, Sierra_Leon
• fireedud (1) kwanton
• Fircoal (1) - life-saver
• kwanton (1) - spurgistan
• dustn64 (1) - 0ojakeo0

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

The town has finally decided to lynch jake. Jake pleaded, but to no avail. After a fight broke out between Freezie and Chaimpie, Sierra dropped the hammer, and Jake was finally confirmed for lynch.

Before the town, jake was repeatedly pelted by pigs. He begged to be spared, but it was all in vain. Jake was successfully lynched before the town. His dying words: "The great lord and master will destroy you all".

Role: Koopa [aka Mafia Goon]

Submit your night actions, and I WOULD like a reason for your night action, but it is not required.

Out of the corner of his eye, someone saw a particular person sneaking into the graveyard. He looked away, took a second look, and saw no one there. He shrugged and headed back home.

Important events:
NES claims Doctor Mario (doc)
Firee claims Doctor Phil (doc)

[Sierra_Leon]

DAY 2 Summary for lazy subs
Day 2 runs from page 26 to page 38

Before Jake's death, Cena announced his role, and lynched Jake.

On his way home, as the sun was setting, Cena was rather pleased with himself. One mafia member down, and on the first day too. He saw out of the corner of his eye a cleverly placed Bowl of Spaghetti in the road, he jumped for it and was sniped then and there.

Role: Luigi [aka Vanilla Townie]

Meanwhile, in another part of town, Chaimpie was out doing his egg laying duties [and he's a guy?!]. Freezie, high up in the tree, swooped down, and with one mighty swoop of his hammer, killed Chaimpie.

Role: Yoshi [aka Mad Scientist]

Freezie, content with his kill, started heading for the pub, when he happened to spot Cena dead in the road. In shock and grief, he picked up Cena, and threw him in the dumpster. Freezie headed for the pub, where he died from overdrinking.

Role: Mario [aka SK/Sibling]

Normally siblings would die the next night, but as he was an SK, what's the point. After the 3rd day I was thinking of removing the sibling weakness.

During the dusk, everyone sleeping in their beds, they heard a ghostly shriek. They immediately gazed towards the noise, and saw 2 figures next to each other. The town could hear some sort of quaking from one of the figures, who could not move until the end of the night. The town was too afraid to approach and make out the features.

Come sunrise, everyone left thier homes and went back to the town square. They found all the bodies, and were more determined to stop the mafia, while the mafia were giggling like Japanesse school girls , which the town was too stupid to notice. However, Sierra Leon was missing...

After much searching, they found an egg. Knocking on the egg, Sierra's voice came out of them telling to stop the racket.

Sierra_Leon is stuck in a Yoshi egg. As an egg cannot influence the town to lynch, he is unable to vote, all votes from him WILL be ignored, and I would rather he does not try it. He can still post, and has no other post restrictions

With 15 votable townies, it takes 8 to lynch.

Ohh, sorry, I forgot the last part...

The town, searching for bodies, found Jake's body lying unearthed from his grave. They noticed that Jake's shell was missing, and some tracks were leading back to the town. They were fairly seperate, which suggests that the target was prancing...

The town reburied Jake into his grave, and then spat on it.

I forgot to add this quote in the day 1 summary:

Lynching jake is looking good at this point. If he's really Luigi, freezie will have some explaining to do. If he turns out scum, I'll have my eye on chaimpie.

Unvote, vote jake.


By the way, just to clarify: NES and firee should protect eachother tonight, because if either one of you dies, I'll assume the other was lying about their role. If jake turns out not to be a cop, it would be helpful if the real cop investigated NES. I'll be investigating firee myself, regardless of what jake turns out to be.

There, Sierra claims an investigative role and asks the real cop to investigate NES. Day 2, Sierra claims he found NES innocent:

Sierra_Leon is stuck in a Yoshi egg. As an egg cannot influence the town to lynch, he is unable to vote, all votes from him WILL be ignored, and I would rather he does not try it. He can still post, and has no other post restrictions

I'm guessing chaimpie egged me, being Yoshi and all. Why, only he knows, but he can't say because he's dead.

Nonetheless, my investigation on fireedud turned out innocent, so he's off the hook for now. Yesterday I asked for a cop to check out NES. If he turned out innocent, just keep your mouth shut. However, if he turned up mafia, I think it's better to share that info with us immediately.

Votes get thrown at fircoal (but only by TWO), at kwanton for submarining and at MTG for this comment:

Bad night, 2 townies dead and only 1 mafia. What to do, what to do.

easy, lynch a mafia, duh, whose side are you on?

Sorry, to many mafia games at once and I get the players a bit confused at times..

LSU votes Dustn64 for this comment:

I know, but its fun. Basically, all but the dumber players should know. You being SK was one of the lighter twists.

I haven't said what exactly is happening, and I will not help them figure out which in particular are important stuff. I believe that is ok. X_X

an SK isn't even a twist. >.<

But mario being an SK is way out there

true

Im thinking princes peach is a (hooker/mafia rolebolck) or something along those lines

Unvote Vote Dustn as it sounds like he may have inside knowledge on the princess.

At this point, freezie replaces Adi39.

LSU gets a few votes because he went after Dustn just because of that joke he made.

Sierra posts:

FOS the kwanton bandwagon. Seriously, there's got to be a better excuse to lynch somebody than "but he didn't post all that much". I'm sad to see NES is on the bandwagon too, since I still believe his doc claim. For crying out loud NES, stop acting like a n00b scumbag. I have this feeling you'll vote anyone as long as it's not you, in the hope that they'll get lynched and you'll survive another day. Your record of "most days stayed alive in a single game" doesn't weigh up to the price of lynching a townie, so please think before you vote.

Meanwhile, I can't vote, but I'm not feeling all too sorry for myself because even after reading through the thread again I can't pick out an obvious scummy. I did however find the hints in the scene. At least I think I did, that's the thing with hints: they tend to be a bit vague. I'm not going to tell you the details on what I think I found, just the consequence: it's very important that fireedud keep protecting NES from nightkills. NES on the other hand does not have to worry about fireedud all that much, he should just protect who he thinks is going to be targeted by the mafia.

I'm sorry I can't explain to you why I'm suggestion this, but please realize that if I told you than I would also be telling the mafia and they would learn too much from this. If you're wondering why I was able to get a clue from the scenes and you weren't: it's because I recognised my own role in the scene. Fireedud, I'm guessing you will be the one most upset on this suggestion, since I'm saying NES should stop protecting you. Please remember that I already claimed you were definately town. I hope you can just trust that I know what I'm doing.

That's all I'm going to say on this matter. Sorry for this large post without any scum accusations, but my scum-radar is still not beeping, not even with kwanton and LSU. Even though I'm egged, I'll definately post when I recognise a scum-tell.

to which f1rth replies:

Like I said, (being the first to vote Kwanton), I didn't just vote for him because he wasn't around. I voted for him because he voted for a doctor! Then he didn't unvote or even say anything. He just left his vote on fireedud.

You said that there weren't a whole lot of scumtells, Sierra, but to me, this is by far the biggest one and there's nothing wrong for voted based on that. Now I don't doubt that you're town, because you seem pretty legitimate in terms of your explanation, but tell me how voting for a claimed doctor isn't fishy?

LSU votes firee again and earns quite a few votes for that.

Unvote Vote Fire when in doubt go back to his idiotic claim.

UNVOTE VOTE LSU your logic on this is faulty. Why would he make up a name if it wasn't in this theme? He wouldn't. The claim is so far out there it has to be true.

LSU claims backup doc:

One of them is lying as otherwise my role would be worthless as kammy koopa the backup doc. my vote stands as I doubt dr phil would be the actual doctor to protect in this game.

Freezie argues with LSU and suggests Sierra investigates LSU:

We have SL saying fire is pro-town.

And, like it was repeated MANY times, I very VERY doubt someone would make a claim like that if it was fake.

Anyway, unvote For now.

SL claimed cop, right? so you can check on LSU tonight.


As for the 2 docs/backup doc, it could very well be NES, assuming you are not lieing. So I still don't see why you are voting for fire.

But Sierra responds by saying he is not exactly a cop and does not want to investigate LSU:

SL claimed cop, right? so you can check on LSU tonight.

I'm not a cop, but I do have investigative powers which will tell me if someone is pro-town or scum. So assuming there is at least one cop in this game, I would like him to investigate LSU instead of me.

This earns him a vote, but the bandwagon remains on LSU. Vote count at this point:

Vote Count :

• LSU Tiger Josh (7) - Fircoal, dustn64, fireedud, F1fth, muy_thaiguy, NESconqueror, mr.incrediball
• Fircoal (2) - The Weird One, LSU Tiger Josh
• Sierra_Leon (1) - freezie

With 15 alive + SL, it takes 8 to lynch!

After some discussion with himself...

yes let the scum hammer the backup doc. come on bring it. i'm ready to be out of this game, but won't vote myself. I want to see who is scummy enough to hammer the backup doc and then have to explain themself during the next day scene.

Man I am so tempted.....ur calling me out LSU........

The backup doc is a pretty useless role at this point. Unless the doc dies. hen it's a very useful role. there's the ossibility ur BSing us tho. Quite possible. And backup doc is a very good claim for scum to make. The fact that ur calling people out to vote on you is a scum tell also......

what to do.....what to do.....

Also, there were 20 people at the start of this game. No huge, but not small either. It's a toss up basically.

I'm willing to lynch a locked role for a shot at lynching scum.

ynvote
vote LSU

...kwanton hammers LSU.

Vote Count :

• LSU Tiger Josh (8) - Fircoal, dustn64, fireedud, F1fth, muy_thaiguy, NESconqueror, mr.incrediball, kwanton
• Fircoal (2) - The Weird One, LSU Tiger Josh
• Sierra_Leon (1) - freezie

With 15 alive + SL, it takes 8 to lynch!

No school today, but Shadowstar was on the computer. With all these games going on, mafia is VERY slow nowadays...

LSU was worn out. His/her [whatever, I will use his] life has been too long, and he is finally worn out. He was mostly apathetic to the crowd of raging townsfolk, who wanted off with his head.

The town surrounded LSU, ready to rip off his head. As they closed in, a dung ball crashed down from the heavens, crashing into LSU. Fircoal was forced by the town to pull out his remains.

Once a loyal servent to the King, LSU was exposed as:

Kammy Koopa [aka Backup Doc]

Send in your night actions.

Important events:
Sierra claims some kind of investigative role
Sierra claims NES is not scum

[Sierra_Leon]

DAY 3 Summary for lazy subs
Day 3 runs from page 40 to [still running, at page 49 at this point]

The town was peacefully dreaming during the night, when the heard a shriek coming from the night. They immediately walked to the town square, and saw a silhouette in the distance, quaking. The town ignored it and went back to sleep.

Meanwhile, The Weird One was in his couch, reading the newspaper and plotting vengeance, when he heard the doorbell. He wondered who it could, it could be the mafia, or that pizza he ordered. He opened the door, and a gunshot echoed into the night.

When everyone woke up the next morning, TWO was gone. They went to visit his house, and TWO was on the floor, dead. They determined that TWO was:

Toadette [Lyncher]

The town noticed a tape, which had recorded the incident. Watching the tape, they saw a Mariachi Band playing in TWo's bedroom.

Day 3

Sierra claims to have investigated freezie last night and also found him innocent:

I don't have time for a big post at this moment, but I would just like to say that I investigated freezie last night and he turned up innocent.

Freezie responds:

Well, not much to say right now, but my doubts on SL have totally disappeared.

But MTG responds differently:

Well, not much to say right now, but my doubts on SL have totally disappeared.

Same here. With that, Vote SL

This gets him a few votes, after which he roleclaims 3rd party necromancer:

May as well roleclaim. I'm a necromancer who has the ability to use a dead persons power (if they have one), but so far I have not been able to because of the lack of ones. Yes, I could not use LSU because his power could only be used if the primary doc had had been killed and he would've taken his place. Only then would I have been able to use his power. My win? Well, truth be told, I would win (if I survive) if either mafia or town wins. If there is still a cop, they could investigate me tonight and tell you themselves.

After some confusion (much like NES's claim day 1), MTG adds a name to that claim: Daisy.

Oh! That name. Sorry, I missunderstood. It is Daisy.

Sierra inquires if MTG is the person roaming the graveyard described in the scenes. At first MTG responds with "Pretty much", but freezie nails him there:

The town has finally decided to lynch jake. Jake pleaded, but to no avail. After a fight broke out between Freezie and Chaimpie, Sierra dropped the hammer, and Jake was finally confirmed for lynch.

Before the town, jake was repeatedly pelted by pigs. He begged to be spared, but it was all in vain. Jake was successfully lynched before the town. His dying words: "The great lord and master will destroy you all".

Role: Koopa [aka Mafia Goon]

Submit your night actions, and I WOULD like a reason for your night action, but it is not required.

Out of the corner of his eye, someone saw a particular person sneaking into the graveyard. He looked away, took a second look, and saw no one there. He shrugged and headed back home.

Is that particular person you, MTG? If nobody else claims to be daisy or the person described in the lynch scene, I'll believe you for now.

@dustn64: I never claimed cop, but I already claimed to have some sort of investigative powers on day 1.

Pretty much.

Oh really?


Then you're scum.

It wasn't you.

Mr. incrediball notes he has the potential to be a SK if he can use the mafia in the graveyard to kill. MTG promises to use his power for the good of the town:

Notice how the SK died and I have not used that power yet. All I ask is, that a cop investigate me tonight. And if more then one killing happens, you can lynch me the next day. If a cop dies that was town, I'd be able to use their power to look into other players to see who is mafia.

Sierra asks NES and fireedud who they have been protecting so far. He also accuses kwanton who is submarining again and also hammered LSU.

I can't imagine what it would be like if a hurricane threatened to hit my house... Best of luck to you, XGS. Let's hope it doesn't get that far.


If we're going to keep this game going, I have a few more questions to ask. I read through this entire thread again and found this missing part in the scene for day 2:

Ohh, sorry, I forgot the last part...

The town, searching for bodies, found Jake's body lying unearthed from his grave. They noticed that Jake's shell was missing, and some tracks were leading back to the town. They were fairly seperate, which suggests that the target was prancing...

The town reburied Jake into his grave, and then spat on it.

MTG, you claim you were unable to use any of the corpses. How do you explain this? Freezie seems to know something about the grave robbings that I don't, so I'll hold my vote for now.

My scum-radar started beeping at three people:

1st: NES.

Thanks. I will assure you that things won't go wrong. Being the nice man I am, I will post who I defended each night.

There's been two nights and you haven't told us anything. Also, you've been acting scummy all game. I asked the cop to investigate you night 1, but I got no guarantee that anyone did, so I might check you out again myself just in case.

PS: fireedud, please tell us who you protected each night also.

2nd: kwanton.
Basicly for hammering LSU. He also had a little bandwagon on him day 2, but that died off pretty quietly when everyone began voting LSU.

3rd: mr. incrediball.
But my radar might just be beeping because I find him annoying, not so much because he's scum. I can't put my finger on it. Anyway, this whole 'he might be a SK' thing he called out today seems to be coming out of nowhere.

And finally it would be nice if the following people posted more often:

1) GreecePwns
3) spurgistan
19) PancakeMix

MTG wants Sierra to investigate him, but again Sierra declines:

Freezie clarifies on the grave-robbing issue:

I am sorry, I haven't said MTG wasn't a nerco. I said that he had no part into the grave digging that happened, yet sounded convinced he was.

When freezie asks MTG if he targeted jake, MTG says he didn't.

Fircoal appears somewhat lynch-happy, to which dustn responds:

UNVOTEVOTE FIRCOAL Its obvious that the role Muy claimed could be helpful to the town weather he is pro-town or survivor. I'm not sure why we would want to get him out of here. If he starts to misuse his powers then we lynch him then, simple enough.

Sierra suggests that Fircoal was the lynchee that TWO was after, and is thus likely to be pro-town.

NES appears to be avoiding the question on who he protected, then claims he protected fircoal last night.

F1fth accuses Life-saver of submarining, who then immediately posts.

Vote Count :

• Kwanton (5) - muy_thaiguy, mr. incrediball, NESconquerer, F1fth, freezie
• muy_thaiguy (1) - Fircoal
• Fircoal (1) - dustn64

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch!

At this point, kwanton pops up and claims Oogtar the caveboy (roleblocker):

Wow day is still on? I figured for sure it would be done by now.

I claim roleblocker. My role name is Oogtar the caveboy. Don't ask me. Apparently it's from the super mario cartoon.

Sierra switches his vote back to MTG.

Vote Count :

• Kwanton (5) - muy_thaiguy, mr. incrediball, NESconquerer, F1fth, freezie
• muy_thaiguy (2) - Fircoal, Sierra_Leon
• Fircoal (1) - dustn64

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch!

Important events:
Sierra claims freezie is not scum
MTG claims daisy (3rd party necromancer)
freezie claims to be know sure that MTG is not the person described in the scenes who is robbing the graves
kwanton claim Oogtar the caveboy (roleblocker)

[Sierra_Leon]

Also, maybe someone can post a summary of what has happened for the deadbeats. I shouldn't do it because one of my observations might give too much information. It might make this game more active.

There you go. GreecePwns + spurgistan + PancakeMix haven't posted much at all this game, I hope you can find replacements for them.

[freezie]

Well...Sierra, such dedication.

In light of this..Unvote

Vote: MTG

Once again.

[XGSuperstar]

Deadline tomorrow.

There was something in your summary I would wish to comment, but I shouldn't.

And I need a replacement for PCM, as can be seen from the thread title.

[Sierra_Leon]

There was something in your summary I would wish to comment, but I shouldn't.

You're probably right, XGS. It's not a mod's place to interfere with the game.
That's why I'd like to ask the other players to check my summaries to see if they find something missing or incorrect. Thanks on behalf of whoever will be subbing for PCM.

[Daring Overlord5]

can i replace

if i do i will not read 50 pages
i will read the summaries throughly though

[freezie]

There was something in your summary I would wish to comment, but I shouldn't.

You're probably right, XGS. It's not a mod's place to interfere with the game.
That's why I'd like to ask the other players to check my summaries to see if they find something missing or incorrect. Thanks on behalf of whoever will be subbing for PCM.

Weird guess, but I beleive MTG could take the sk powers from MARIO and not koopa..

[F1fth]

Very well done job on the summaries, SL. Good to have people like you in this game. That said, with a deadline approaching and not many other options, I'll Unvote Vote MTG. As third party, we cannot know if your win conditions involve killing off the rest of us. And even if there isn't, there's no guarantee that you won't hop on the mafia's side if the scales tip towards them.

[XGSuperstar]

Announcement
Do5 replaces PCM.

[freezie]

Announcement
Do5 replaces PCM.

We're all doomed.



Fos: Do5

Before he starts to confuse us.

[muy_thaiguy]

Very well done job on the summaries, SL. Good to have people like you in this game. That said, with a deadline approaching and not many other options, I'll Unvote Vote MTG. As third party, we cannot know if your win conditions involve killing off the rest of us. And even if there isn't, there's no guarantee that you won't hop on the mafia's side if the scales tip towards them.

My win condition is that I just stay alive, doesn't matter if mafia or town wins. But remeber, if the cop gets NKed, I could use the cop's power myself. And if I do just use the SK's power, I'll be lynched the next day. In other words, I'm on thin ice, yet can still be useful.

[Fircoal]

nice summary Seirra, it makes the game look a lot more exciting.

[XGSuperstar]

nice summary Seirra, it makes the game look a lot more exciting.

All the games are kinda slow.

Also, deadline tomorrow at 6PM EST.

[Daring Overlord5]

i was told to confirm in thread

so..

confirm

will read sierras summaries of the days

[F1fth]

Very well done job on the summaries, SL. Good to have people like you in this game. That said, with a deadline approaching and not many other options, I'll Unvote Vote MTG. As third party, we cannot know if your win conditions involve killing off the rest of us. And even if there isn't, there's no guarantee that you won't hop on the mafia's side if the scales tip towards them.

My win condition is that I just stay alive, doesn't matter if mafia or town wins. But remeber, if the cop gets NKed, I could use the cop's power myself. And if I do just use the SK's power, I'll be lynched the next day. In other words, I'm on thin ice, yet can still be useful.

Firstly, we can't know that. Secondly, we can't be sure you won't just extend your services to the mafia if it's a quicker and easier route to victory. It's just a risk dealing with 3rd parties. I hate to say, because I know you could be an asset, but there's simply no better or safer choice.

[Daring Overlord5]

after reading the summaries
and the post above by f1fth

vote mtg

[dustn64]

Why do we need to lynch MTG? there is no reason. call me crazy, call me scummy, call me stupid, but I really don't care if a "powered survivor" makes it to the end of the game. What I care about is taking out the mafia and How does killing the side note help at all? BUT I will vote for him so we don't have a no lynch, Later.

[freezie]

Why do we need to lynch MTG? there is no reason. call me crazy, call me scummy, call me stupid, but I really don't care if a "powered survivor" makes it to the end of the game. What I care about is taking out the mafia and How does killing the side note help at all? BUT I will vote for him so we don't have a no lynch, Later.

Because, if he is telling the truth, there is absolutly no way to know what side he will take.


If he sees an easier route to win with mafia, he will start taking the townies out.

And since we don't have any other leads..

[muy_thaiguy]

Why do we need to lynch MTG? there is no reason. call me crazy, call me scummy, call me stupid, but I really don't care if a "powered survivor" makes it to the end of the game. What I care about is taking out the mafia and How does killing the side note help at all? BUT I will vote for him so we don't have a no lynch, Later.

Because, if he is telling the truth, there is absolutly no way to know what side he will take.


If he sees an easier route to win with mafia, he will start taking the townies out.

And since we don't have any other leads..

Lynching me won't get you any further one way or the other.

[freezie]

Why do we need to lynch MTG? there is no reason. call me crazy, call me scummy, call me stupid, but I really don't care if a "powered survivor" makes it to the end of the game. What I care about is taking out the mafia and How does killing the side note help at all? BUT I will vote for him so we don't have a no lynch, Later.

Because, if he is telling the truth, there is absolutly no way to know what side he will take.


If he sees an easier route to win with mafia, he will start taking the townies out.

And since we don't have any other leads..

Lynching me won't get you any further one way or the other.

POint to us a mafia, right now, and my vote will change.

I prefer a third party rather than a pro-town power-role.