The Dice

terrafutan · Post by **terrafutan** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:21 am

The $%^#$ dice

Just played a 6vs1 and lost.
Probability calculators on the net give me odds of 100% win and another a 99.4% chance.

Last night 29vs17 and lost.
Probability calculators on the net give me odds of 98% win and another a 96.8% chance.

Yesterday afternoon 34vs22 and lost.
Probability calculators on the net give me odds of 97% win and another a 96.1% chance.

Clearly those probability sites are full of shite and these conquer club dice are the bomb.

I can't be that unlucky!!

Anyone else hate these dice ?

cmeb4udie · Post by **cmeb4udie** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:48 am

I also have had that same luck. last game I had 17 to 3 and lost as well as 22 and 5 and lost. I have noticed that most of my bad luck is when I attack RED or GREEN what's up with that??

johnnyrotten · Post by **johnnyrotten** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:14 am

There is something drastically wrong with dice. I keep losing up to 10 armies, whereas my opponent loses no more than 1. WTF'S WRONG?!?!?!?!?!

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:14 am

... Everybody seems to think the dice are screwing them, Haha! And sometimes I'm in full agreement! But I get incredible streaks of luck from time to time that balance it all out.

terrafutan · Post by **terrafutan** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:23 am

I think its more a case of the dice favouring the defender which it shouldnt since they are outnumbered 3 to 2.

I am keeping track of my dice rolls in a number of games - I will post the results when done.

FLash_mike · Post by **FLash_mike** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:40 pm

I agree.
I mean, like terrafutan observed, it doesn't worth it especially when others are favoured in such a #@$# manner; happened to me also, and it doesn't compensate -nobunaga! for most it won't compensate.

areyouincahoots · Post by **areyouincahoots** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:00 pm

you must remember...if it is favoring defenders, it must be favoring you when your countries are under attack....just a thought

PaperPlunger · Post by **PaperPlunger** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:31 pm

except cahoots, I lose both ways..

SMITH197 · Post by **SMITH197** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:42 pm

i've never experienced a problem...i just won 32 attacking 34....i think the dice are fine. And even if they're not, i agree with cahoots.

areyouincahoots · Post by **areyouincahoots** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:49 pm

PaperPlunger wrote:except cahoots, I lose both ways..

well, i'm sorry to hear that...maybe the universe is trying to tell you something...

dissolution · Post by **dissolution** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:15 pm

lol guys its exactly like in rl. its already happen in real life games of risk to get all ur armies taken away by a small number of troops. happens more often then one would like to admit. and those calculators are useless, since u cant calculate luck.

PaperPlunger · Post by **PaperPlunger** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:45 pm

dissolution wrote:lol guys its exactly like in rl. its already happen in real life games of risk to get all ur armies taken away by a small number of troops. happens more often then one would like to admit. and those calculators are useless, since u cant calculate luck.

actually, how the dice are "randomized" the way we're are currently using is almost NOTHING like rl. Look for the thread about it, it'll teach you something new, also, there is no luck whatsoever when dealing with this, it's the order of the dice we rely on, so having good luck changes nothing, we could be in a slump for the dice, as opposed to a streak of good ones.

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:09 pm

How is choosing a string of random numbers then going through them one by one that different from RL? I mean the results are gonna be random either way, it's just that here the dice have been generated randomly beforehand.

PaperPlunger · Post by **PaperPlunger** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:22 pm

kingwaffles wrote:How is choosing a string of random numbers then going through them one by one that different from RL? I mean the results are gonna be random either way, it's just that here the dice have been generated randomly beforehand.

But thats the thing.. There is no real way to randomize computers, as you said yourself, they have been chosen beforehand. So unless you believe in fate so much as to say that even your rl dice have been chosen beforehand, then your right, otherwise, the dice being chosen beforehand by a person putting them together "randomly" (I say that in quotes because it is random, but random is never knowing too)

Random

adj 1: lacking any definite plan or order or purpose; governed by or depending on chance; "a random choice"; "bombs fell at random"; "random movements" [ant: nonrandom] 2: taken haphazardly; "a random choice"

Chance

n. 1: The unknown and unpredictable element in happenings that seems to have no assignable cause.

as taken from dictionary.com, you can see that random in definition has no pattern, however and in whatever fashion these dice were put in, there is a pattern, and that pattern is how they are aligned, whether it be a pattern that is easily seen, or one that has no specific association at all.