More experts say Gov. is lying about 911

[DaGip]

Lmao I run on a lifetime supply of generic brand cola and vodka. Water is useless to me.

Do you know what a Zealot is? The Zealot's were a band of Jewish terrorists.

[unriggable]

Lmao I run on a lifetime supply of generic brand cola and vodka. Water is useless to me.

Do you know what a Zealot is? The Zealot's were a band of Jewish terrorists.

A zealot is just a crazy with a cause. Tabasco, for instance.

[DaGip]

Lmao I run on a lifetime supply of generic brand cola and vodka. Water is useless to me.

Do you know what a Zealot is? The Zealot's were a band of Jewish terrorists.

A zealot is just a crazy with a cause. Tabasco, for instance.

Uh? No. Zealot's were a band of Jewish terrorists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealots

Zealotry was a movement in first century Judaism, described by Josephus as one of the "four sects" at this time. The term Zealot, in Hebrew kanai (קנאי, frequently used in plural form, קנאים), means one who is zealous on behalf of God. The term is Greek in origin. The Zealots were a religious group and were frequently in rebellion.

[Snorri1234]

Yes, Zealot's were a band of Jewish freedom fighters.

But wiktionary gives two definitions.

Zealot
1. one who is zealous, one who is full of zeal for his own specific beliefs or objectives, usually in the negative sense of being too passionate; a fanatic
2. a member of the Zealot movement

[Neoteny]

You are correct, but in modern day vernacular "zealot" means one who has zeal. And that's the definition most modern people recognize.

From dictionary.com:

zeal·ot – noun
1. a person who shows zeal.
2. an excessively zealous person; fanatic.
3. (initial capital letter) a member of a radical, warlike, ardently patriotic group of Jews in Judea, particularly prominent from a.d. 69 to 81, advocating the violent overthrow of Roman rule and vigorously resisting the efforts of the Romans and their supporters to heathenize the Jews.

Note that I did not capitalize "zealot." Don't critisize my diction because you are stuck in a first century mindframe.

EDIT: Damn... Snorri beat me to it...

[xtratabasco]

Lmao I run on a lifetime supply of generic brand cola and vodka. Water is useless to me.

Do you know what a Zealot is? The Zealot's were a band of Jewish terrorists.

A zealot is just a crazy with a cause. Tabasco, for instance.

why is it crazy to want to see the pictures of the 757 that hit the pentagon?

You are crazy for licking the boots of this government and NOT wanting to see the proof and just going on what they say as truth.

[Neoteny]

I will admit that it's interesting that there aren't any pictures of the plane wreckage (at least none that come up with a quick google search) but I'm no expert on plane crashes. I searched for pics of plane wreckage at the twin towers and that came up pretty skimpy too. And I kinda watched a plane hit that building. You know, live. But that could have been the sneaky government too. Fucking with my live news feed... And it's possible the wreckage was crushed beyond all recognition during the collapse. Either way, I'll leave the analysis up to the experts. I don't respect the Bush administration at all as is. Should irrefutable evidence arise, I would be out there pushing for Bush's head as well. As is, I can't see any reason to do that. Well, except for invading a country and killing a whole bunch of civilians... but that's old hat, right?

[Guiscard]

I will admit that it's interesting that there aren't any pictures of the plane wreckage (at least none that come up with a quick google search) but I'm no expert on plane crashes. I searched for pics of plane wreckage at the twin towers and that came up pretty skimpy too. And I kinda watched a plane hit that building. You know, live. But that could have been the sneaky government too. Fucking with my live news feed... And it's possible the wreckage was crushed beyond all recognition during the collapse. Either way, I'll leave the analysis up to the experts. I don't respect the Bush administration at all as is. Should irrefutable evidence arise, I would be out there pushing for Bush's head as well. As is, I can't see any reason to do that. Well, except for invading a country and killing a whole bunch of civilians... but that's old hat, right?

This is only directed at you. I don't care what Xtra has to say about the matter.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm is pretty comprehensive concerning the wreckage of the plane that hit the pentagon.

[Carebian Knight]

y should i xtrafreestyletriplestabasco?

Not very good either, just beat him in 6 rounds

the burden of proof isnt on me as i am on no side, YOU are the one who has to prove that a plane didnt hit, and so far youre only proof is conspiracy websites and the lack of proof for the other side.

Yup, if you make the thread, then prove your point. Don't make a thread telling other people to prove their's, and I don't care what you say, you haven't proven anything yet.

[Neoteny]

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm is pretty comprehensive concerning the wreckage of the plane that hit the pentagon.

Looks like landing gear to my non-expert eyes. I've never been one for conspiracy theories anyway...

[DaGip]

Where's Xtra?

Enjoy

[Guiscard]

I really don't want to rehash old debates...

[DaGip]

I really don't want to rehash old debates...

I know, I know...but the feeling was just right for some reason.

[Napoleon Ier]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

[Frigidus]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

[DaGip]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

[Frigidus]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

It sounds like he's saying homosexuality is all in your head, or a phase, or something. Rather...er...interesting view if that's true.

[Napoleon Ier]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

It sounds like he's saying homosexuality is all in your head, or a phase, or something. Rather...er...interesting view if that's true.

Sort of. I think daGip doesn't seriously believe in 9/11, nor does jay, hey rather have a desire to, because they find a role they can have an identity with in their conspiracy theories.

[heavycola]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

It sounds like he's saying homosexuality is all in your head, or a phase, or something. Rather...er...interesting view if that's true.

Sort of. I think daGip doesn't seriously believe in 9/11, nor does jay, hey rather have a desire to, because they find a role they can have an identity with in their conspiracy theories.

Well said.

Conspiracy theorists see themselves as possessors of forbidden knowledge and, as such, as separate from and superior to the masses (see jay's use of the 'word' 'sheeple' at every opportunity).

It is all so depressingly narcissistic and ultimately banal, which is why it grates my carrot so fiercely.

EDIT: whereas agreeing with nappy is... merely slightly disorientating

[Napoleon Ier]

However I do respect them and their beliefs (saying this is pertty disorientating ). Like I respect homosexuals, but not their actions.

[DaGip]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

It sounds like he's saying homosexuality is all in your head, or a phase, or something. Rather...er...interesting view if that's true.

Sort of. I think daGip doesn't seriously believe in 9/11, nor does jay, hey rather have a desire to, because they find a role they can have an identity with in their conspiracy theories.

Well said.

Conspiracy theorists see themselves as possessors of forbidden knowledge and, as such, as separate from and superior to the masses (see jay's use of the 'word' 'sheeple' at every opportunity).

It is all so depressingly narcissistic and ultimately banal, which is why it grates my carrot so fiercely.

EDIT: whereas agreeing with nappy is... merely slightly disorientating

Well, I think you are the conspiracy theorist, because you believe in the government's conspiracy theory. I don't think I have any type of forbidden knowledge...what are you talking about?

It is only forbidden because Bush told you it was...Bush is the conpsiracy theorist, not me and jay.

The buildings exploded, and hundreds of firefighters said it exploded and there were explosions. They even said there were bombs in the building.

You want to think that the American government couldn't possibly be involved with something so vile and treacherous as attacking its own citizenry. You continue to want to protect those who are the real criminals in this incident in history.

Fascist governments have done this same scenerio over and over--attack there own populace, get them good and scared, point the finger at the enemy, and lead their nations into war...otherwise, the populace would never support war without some excuse to go to war.

9-11 needs to be reinvestigated, and the fact that the government acts like it has something to hide over the whole issue loses credibility with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxnpujfa ... re=related

[jay_a2j]

Look, you don't seriously believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy. It's just a psychological thing. Like homosexuality.

I wish you guys would look at the evidence instead of just assuming what Bush says is fact. 3 months after 911 Bush was addressing a crowd and said he saw the first plane hit while watching tv outside of the classroom that he was about to enter. NO ONE saw the first plane hit on 911, the tape didn't surface until 912. He BLATENLY lied about seeing the first plane hit, why? Why? WHY? Because the whole story is crap, that's why.

[heavycola]

At first I laughed, but then I realized you might be serious. Please tell me you were joking...

Hmmm?

It sounds like he's saying homosexuality is all in your head, or a phase, or something. Rather...er...interesting view if that's true.

Sort of. I think daGip doesn't seriously believe in 9/11, nor does jay, hey rather have a desire to, because they find a role they can have an identity with in their conspiracy theories.

Well said.

Conspiracy theorists see themselves as possessors of forbidden knowledge and, as such, as separate from and superior to the masses (see jay's use of the 'word' 'sheeple' at every opportunity).

It is all so depressingly narcissistic and ultimately banal, which is why it grates my carrot so fiercely.

EDIT: whereas agreeing with nappy is... merely slightly disorientating

Well, I think you are the conspiracy theorist, because you believe in the government's conspiracy theory. I don't think I have any type of forbidden knowledge...what are you talking about?

Number of times jay has used the word 'sheeple' in this forum = 2,574
Number of times you have done the 'i will embrace my impending martyrdom, as i am tortured for my dedication to the truth while the compliant zombies go about their antichrist-worshipping business on the other side of the chicken wire' = I have lost count.

Can you see the link? These ridiculous ideas enable you to see yourselves as imbued with wisdom beyond that of the general population. By buying into this crap, you set yourselves apart from the common man.
The reason these conspiracies take hold is because they convince people like you that you are special, while the rest of us are just sheeple.
It is pure narcissism.

It is only forbidden because Bush told you it was...Bush is the conpsiracy theorist, not me and jay.

Don't try and patronise me. Do you know anyone weak-minded enough to acceptunquestioningly whatever politicians say (except you and ron paul, obviously)? Do you really think I listen to george bush as a fount of truth? Do you think before you post?

The buildings exploded, and hundreds of firefighters said it exploded and there were explosions. They even said there were bombs in the building.

THEY FLEW FUCKING PLANES INTO THE BUILDINGS. MASSIVE FUCKING FUEL-LADEN JETLINERS. Perhaps New York's firefighters weren't trained to distinguish between the effects of said airliners slamming into skyscrapers at hundreds of miles an hour and explosions. Or maybe they weren't thinking straight under the circumstances. Either way, I blame the government.

You continue to want to protect those who are the real criminals in this incident in history.

Yes, you moron, I want to protect the real criminals. As I always have done.

I am staggered.

[jay_a2j]

Number of times the "911 Conspiracy Theory" has been debunked = 0


Number of sheeple in the US = at least 200,000,000.


Waking up to the truth = Priceless.

[heavycola]

Number of times the "911 Conspiracy Theory" has been debunked = 0


Number of sheeple in the US = at least 200,000,000.


Waking up to the truth = Priceless.

Yes jay. You are special.