account responsibility rule. [new poll]

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:16 pm

i think it should be on the rules page that you are responsible for whatever happens to your account, regardless of who you may have given your password to.

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:19 pm

what if somebody hacks you

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:20 pm

ParadiceCity9 wrote:what if somebody hacks you

not ever gonna happen.

Nickbaldwin · Post by **Nickbaldwin** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:22 pm

The only way you could get hacked is if someone guessed your password.

And then you should blame yourself for having such an easy password

lackattack · Post by **lackattack** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:37 pm

hwhrhett could you write something more informative about your suggestion in the title? thanks.

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:39 pm

lackattack wrote:hwhrhett could you write something more informative about your suggestion in the title? thanks.

i changed it but im not sure how to word it exactly to get the point across, lol.

khazalid · Post by **khazalid** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:39 pm

someone could bruteforce it if they really really wanted to.

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:45 pm

khazalid wrote:someone could bruteforce it if they really really wanted to.

that would take ages, cause there is a 5-guess limit on trying to log in, then it blocks you for 30 minutes.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:54 pm

Yes to the original suggestion.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:17 pm

i vote yes but only if a proper account sitting method is put into function. until then sitting an account means you have to know the password and the person that gave you the pass can't be held responsible for the actions of the sitter.

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:34 pm

DiM wrote:i vote yes but only if a proper account sitting method is put into function. until then sitting an account means you have to know the password and the person that gave you the pass can't be held responsible for the actions of the sitter.

i beg to differ, i say the account owner is definately responsible for the actions of the sitter, otherwise it is just begging for abuse. too many ppl being able to blame things on their girlfriend, wife, drunk friend, or account sitter.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:49 pm

hwhrhett wrote:
DiM wrote:i vote yes but only if a proper account sitting method is put into function. until then sitting an account means you have to know the password and the person that gave you the pass can't be held responsible for the actions of the sitter.
i beg to differ, i say the account owner is definately responsible for the actions of the sitter, otherwise it is just begging for abuse. too many ppl being able to blame things on their girlfriend, wife, drunk friend, or account sitter.

you have a point BUT at the moment you can't go on vacation without sharing your password and let's face it we do have to take a vacation from time to time. i know people here and i trust them with my pass but that's not the case for everybody. some people are new or simply don't know anybody and yet they must either deadbeat or give a pass to a stranger. with a clear and restrected sitter function the worst that can happen is that your sitter loses all the games but he can't leave feedback send pms post in forums or chat, etc.he can just take turns.

which is why a sitter function must be implemented.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:56 pm

You can always finish your games before your vacation, if it's a planned one.

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:10 pm

wicked wrote:You can always finish your games before your vacation, if it's a planned one.

thats what i did when i went on vacation, i quit joining games a month before i left, and only had 3 goin when i went away for that week. and lets face it, if it is an emergency, then the last thing you should be concerned about is missing a few turns in an online game. i agree that the sitter function would be nice, but you cant disagree with this one, just because you think that the sitter function is more important.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:32 pm

I agree that the sitting function should be a top priority.

I also agree that this blurb should be added to the rules so people can't try to pass blame to others for actions on their own account.

I do not think the sitter function needs to be in place for this rule to be added. If you are going to give someone your password, you better make sure you can trust that person. The sitter function would improve the situation, but would take a lot more work to add then this simple line of text.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:36 pm

wicked wrote:You can always finish your games before your vacation, if it's a planned one.

if....

but in many cases it is not.

i like going to the mountains for the weekend and many times i leave without even having time to tell anybody. i meet on friday evening with a few friends and we decide on the spot to leave to the mountains so we jump in the car and go.

also medical or job related emergencies can arise and not allow you to have time to quit all games.

for example my wife can be sent traveling for conferences and stuff like that without warning. she's told she has to leave with 2 3 days in advance.

if i knew i must leave 3 days from now i wouldn't have time to finish my games and i would have to tell somebody my password or deadbeat.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:38 pm

sully800 wrote:I agree that the sitting function should be a top priority.

I also agree that this blurb should be added to the rules so people can't try to pass blame to others for actions on their own account.

I do not think the sitter function needs to be in place for this rule to be added. If you are going to give someone your password, you better make sure you can trust that person. The sitter function would improve the situation, but would take a lot more work to add then this simple line of text.

yeah it would take a lot more work but nobody said great things are accomplished easily.

the sitter function has been suggested and i don't actually think it's that hard to implement. of course it is harder than adding a line of text but not impossible.

hwhrhett · Post by **hwhrhett** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:13 pm

DiM wrote:
sully800 wrote:I agree that the sitting function should be a top priority.

I also agree that this blurb should be added to the rules so people can't try to pass blame to others for actions on their own account.

I do not think the sitter function needs to be in place for this rule to be added. If you are going to give someone your password, you better make sure you can trust that person. The sitter function would improve the situation, but would take a lot more work to add then this simple line of text.
yeah it would take a lot more work but nobody said great things are accomplished easily.

the sitter function has been suggested and i don't actually think it's that hard to implement. of course it is harder than adding a line of text but not impossible.

well its on the pending todo list isnt it? doesnt that mean that it will be implemented soon? i assume thats what "vacation setting" is right?

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:39 pm

Yes it is pending on the to do list.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:00 pm

hwhrhett wrote:
DiM wrote:
sully800 wrote:I agree that the sitting function should be a top priority.

I also agree that this blurb should be added to the rules so people can't try to pass blame to others for actions on their own account.

I do not think the sitter function needs to be in place for this rule to be added. If you are going to give someone your password, you better make sure you can trust that person. The sitter function would improve the situation, but would take a lot more work to add then this simple line of text.
yeah it would take a lot more work but nobody said great things are accomplished easily.

the sitter function has been suggested and i don't actually think it's that hard to implement. of course it is harder than adding a line of text but not impossible.
well its on the pending todo list isnt it? doesnt that mean that it will be implemented soon? i assume thats what "vacation setting" is right?

pending and to do are totally different.

to-do means it is accepted and will be implemented in future updates
pending means it's not yet accepted

and vacation setting is different from the sitter system

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:50 pm

Lots of ideas have been thrown around, we've looked at some working examples on other websites, but I'm not sure when we will get what you are looking for.

Lack's top priority now is making the site run faster and perform better. After that, he'll start to move into more things like this.

--Andy

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:56 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Lots of ideas have been thrown around, we've looked at some working examples on other websites, but I'm not sure when we will get what you are looking for.

Lack's top priority now is making the site run faster and perform better. After that, he'll start to move into more things like this.

--Andy

i understand lack has priorities and i accept that, but a working model has been suggested.
it's actually very simple.

what is a sitter's function? to take turns so you don't deadbeat. he doesn't need to create new games join others send pms or post in forums.

SO how will this work?
under the my settings page you have a new option: Sitter. there you insert a username and that guy will be your new sitter. then pm him and tell him about this. he will enter your account by putting your username and HIS password.
simple as pie

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm

It'll definitely be worked on.

--Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:07 pm

lack has said he likes the idea of the account sitter feature, and I'm pretty sure he intends to implement it. It is just medium priority right now so I guess site performance issues need to be worked out first, as Andy just said.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:23 pm

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