Dawn Of War Mafia. Town won. Woot. Finally

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:55 pm

I've prodded Serbia but he said he wouldn't be around on the American holiday and Saturday. Maybe I should just get a replacement?

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:06 pm

Hrm. I was expecting a death of some sort.

Exile I don't know whether to agree with you or not on the godfather bit. Like I said, I find it odd that there is a lack of an SK in this game so that could be the only scum left. Then again there could be a mafia recruiter of some sort and it might be one of the two you haven't cleared. Then again there could be a godfather and it could be anyone but exile.

IMO any of these three are equally likely.

So between koesen and nark they are the only two that have not been cleared. I still believe koesen. But do you think that nark should be lynched? I don't see any real evidence against him. Of course yesterday, the same logic of "I believe koesen is town so let's lynch the other guy" caught scum. Let's wait for nark to claim then we can work from there. I really don't have suspicions on anyone as of now.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:45 pm

The1exile wrote:I think I know what happened... they tried to kill me.

Why would their attempt have failed?

I don't believe AD is scum.

Unless Exile has changed sides recently, my money is on either Kwanton or LSU. Not because they did anything particularly scummy, but because I trust the other people more.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:50 pm

Skittles! wrote:
I will be prodding some people, as I am not satisfied with their "playing".

And I will be ignoring some people, as I am not satisfied with their 'modding'.

j/k

Anyway, holidays and school finals are at this time of the year in the US, so your game will probably go slower than normal.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:52 pm

Koesen wrote:
The1exile wrote:I think I know what happened... they tried to kill me.
Why would their attempt have failed?

I don't believe AD is scum.

Unless Exile has changed sides recently, my money is on either Kwanton or LSU. Not because they did anything particularly scummy, but because I trust the other people more.

Well, first off, I think that if you believe any of the 'Reinforcements' are scum, then that wouldn't make much sense.

Skittles added us, I believe, to balance the game out more.

Due to that theory, I'd say we can safely state that any scum will be an original character.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:43 am

Koesen wrote:Why would their attempt have failed?

That's for me to know, and you to wonder.

Koesen wrote:I don't believe AD is scum.

In that case, I'm convinced you are. Purge Koesen

Koesen wrote:Unless Exile has changed sides recently, my money is on either Kwanton or LSU. Not because they did anything particularly scummy, but because I trust the other people more.

Believe me, I know about the possibility of godfather, and I've discounted it for various reasons.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:21 am

The1exile wrote:
Koesen wrote:Why would their attempt have failed?
That's for me to know, and you to wonder.

Koesen wrote:I don't believe AD is scum.
In that case, I'm convinced you are. Purge Koesen

Koesen wrote:Unless Exile has changed sides recently, my money is on either Kwanton or LSU. Not because they did anything particularly scummy, but because I trust the other people more.
Believe me, I know about the possibility of godfather, and I've discounted it for various reasons.

Sry if I am slow but could you elaborate on all those points please?

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:32 am

OK, basically, we have the following alive:

2. The1exile - claimed cop, pretty much as confirmed as you're gonna get
5. LSUtigerjosh - cleared by cop
11. Kwanton - cleared by cop
15. Koesen - not cleared, claimed "Forcce Commander", apparently a vanilla role.
30. Anarkistsdream 2.0 - not cleared, but was a reinforcement
31. Serbia - cleared by cop

So, basically we have 2 lynch options (if you'll trust me when I say Josh is definitely not a godfather).

I'm concerned that the imperial guardsmen might have been added yes, to give the town more of a chance, but they might also have been chaos recruitable. In which case I would investigate narc tonight, if we don't win.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:42 am

Hrm. Not quite following on why koes is definitely scum tho.

But I kinda see where you're coming from on the recruiter thing. There hasn't been a kill on two recent nights, so maybe syz was the last one who could kill.

Also reading back I found this:

kalishnikov wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:Have fun loosing the game to the faction that guys don't even know exists yet, fellas.
I'll take that as your confession.
you misunderstand, sir. The faction isn't me, it's the one I found out about with my 1-shot ability. It's a recruiting cult.

Anyone else think that this was more than just a BS scum tactic? Maybe scum can choose whether to recruit or kill on a night. If that is a possibility then maybe multiple investigations on the same people periodically may be in order.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:45 am

ABWOP

I don't want to brush aside the idea of a godfather as easily as exile though. Like I said, scum as SK, recruiter, or godfather are all equally as likely IMO just based on the setup and numbers remaining.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:59 am

Well, I have thought about the GF, but dismissed it due to my investogation results.

A bit like if you investigated 3 people, got vig, tracker and doc, you wouldn't think any of them were the GF would ya?

It's not the same here obv, but it's a similar sort of logic.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:19 am

TRALALA I CAN REPLACE MAYHAPS? TRALALALA

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:01 am

Skoffin wrote: TRALALA I CAN REPLACE MAYHAPS? TRALALALA

TRALALALALA.

MAYBE

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:05 am

I believe AD is town because the day scene that introduced him clearly said he was. True, he may have been recruited by now, but so may Exile and everybody else.

I think it's absurd to deduct from that that I have to be scum. I have claimed a role that is mentioned in detail in most day scenes and nobody countered. I made several remarks describing its win condition, none of which were refuted by anybody.

And no, I am not vanilla.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:08 am

If Exile got more details in his investigation than just town or scum, how about a mass roleclaim? Let's see if people's claims are in line with what you discovered.

Recruiting aside, I repeat that my main suspects are Kwanton and LSU, and that you interpret at least one investigation result incorrectly.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:21 pm

So, any takers for the roleclaim?

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:11 pm

I'd go with a mass roleclaim. You know mine.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:36 pm

i was actually gonna suggest this tomorrow ehen we've narrowed down the field a bit more but when in rome....

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:07 pm

So, let's hear it.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:15 pm

I thought this was supposed to be a mass roleclaim. I was gonna wait til everyone agreed but whatever.

I am the reason there haven't been any kills on two nights.

My role name is wraithbone and I am a back-up doc. I've been protecting exile every night. Sry but I don't know much about the theme but my role was in blue.

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:17 pm

To clarify, you're claiming eldar?

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:17 pm

Well, I figured that if everybody started claiming, everybody else would be forced to follow

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:18 pm

unpurge btw

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:19 pm

The1exile wrote:To clarify, you're claiming eldar?

Not exactly sure what eldar is but yeah as far as my role goes, I am eldar(?).

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:20 pm

Interesting claim, by the way. I can see one reason to be sceptical of it and another reason to reject my scepticism.

But I'll refrain from elaborating until everybody else has claimed. I don't want people to escape scrutiny because I jump the first guy who dares to claim.