Judgement Day- Game Over, MAFIA WIN!!!

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:46 pm

freezie wrote:
gimpyThewonder wrote:
freezie wrote:Firth, gimpy...The fact I am suspicious of you is for going that adament after mandy, when I know I can trust him..

His claim makes perfect sense. And I doubt it's recruitable.
how was my previous statement adamently going after Mandy? I dare you to point out a single bit of it that is incorrect or misleading. Oh that's right, ya can't.

I could say i'm suspicious of you for vote hopping more than frogger, but there are bigger fish to fry. personally i'm holding my vote until we get something a bit more solid. no one has presented any evidence w/ substance

We have many evidences with substance, you just can't see them. As for going adamently after Mandy: It was..Your 5th or 6th post of saying he is the overallscum? That's surely not too much..

True that. But, I think that Gimpy will have to wait for his turn at the gallows given the fact that Koesen, Firth and AD (should SL lynch prove him pro-Town) are far more likely to be scum then Gimpy.

On the other hand, I am stubbornly convinced that Gimpy is the the Red Horse. I guess you guys will just have to decide wherther you prefer my infalible instinct

or common sense

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BTW, UNVOTE
VOTE SIERRA LEON to end the Day.

freezie · Post by **freezie** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:57 pm

Hmm...One thing: Do NOT kill Mandy tonight.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:09 pm

Mandy: Could you do me a favor and investigate me tonight? That way i don't have to sit under a cloud of your suspicion anymore? i mean if i you really think i'm the red horse then nothing to lose right?

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:22 pm

gimpyThewonder wrote:Mandy: Could you do me a favor and investigate me tonight? That way i don't have to sit under a cloud of your suspicion anymore? i mean if i you really think i'm the red horse then nothing to lose right?

I will have to discuss it with other guys. Only 1 investigation left and if you're not it, then it's basicaly wasted (it doesn't exhonorate you of being Scum).

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:26 pm

As you can also see from the country flag, I'm in Germany now until the weekend. I will try to follow the thread, but I don't promise.

After reading the posts so far my vote stays with mandy

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Selin · Post by **Selin** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:34 pm

nagerous wrote:Meh... I'll confirm my vote on firth but I would also like to vote koesen for being scum too. I know by voting the scum recruits it doesn't help our cause much but I think the Antichrist (probably selin) will be too elusive to catch at the moment. AD, I say you investigate him tonight.

Given the fact that I am not a Christ, you may call me Antichrist if you want

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Sierra_Leon · Post by **Sierra_Leon** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:32 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:BTW, UNVOTE
VOTE SIERRA LEON to end the Day.

By my count I'm at L-2, so I'm still kickin'. Your last few posts sounded pretty convincing; I'm believing your theory on the horse-hunters a bit more with all the people supporting you. Your thoughts on me being scum are all wrong though.

Just think about this a bit more. What clues are there pointing at me being scum, and what clues are there pointing at AD?

-me: I pointed out AD's scumminess after he claimed to be a seer. By now lots of people agree that Nark is as scummy as they get, so that should actually speak in my favour. Then jnd placed a deadline on the day, which caused a bandwagon coming my way. At that point, there wasn't really anybody else being accused, so I read back to see if I could find a scumtell somewhere to renew discussion instead of pointlessly getting bandwagonned. I found Mandy's actions suspicious and started doubting his claim. I may have been wrong or not, but that's not really the issue. At least some actual discussion occured and it's gotten us to where we are now.

-AD: Nark made some very vague posts day 2 and was asked to claim to back them up day 3. He claimed being a seer, yet can give us no investigation results. That's pretty convenient. After getting way overdefensive and seemingly frustrated at some point, more people start believing the claim. Then Mandy comes up with a story about how AD must be lying. However fortunate it would be if that was true, that argument was based on Mandy misinterpreting AD's words, so I won't hold that against him. When the pressure against him settled somewhat, he was quick to hop on the bandwagon that was coming my way.

And if that's not good enough proof to convince you people that I'm telling the truth, I'll even throw in my role-claim - or at least my name-claim at this point, because with all the roles already revealed, I think the scum are benefitting from all these claims way too much. I'm Noah. You know, the guy with the Ark during the flood. I'm definately Pro-town. I'll tell you this much about my role: I'm not a vanilla townie; I can be of great help to the town if you keep me around. I'm not much use dead though, so even if you decide that AD shouldn't be lynched either, it would be better to vote for one of the lurkers in this game. I believe I already mentioned before that Fircoal is remarkably quiet this game, which is not like him at all. There's no deadline nearby, so think it over more carefully please.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:45 pm

A Biblical character, riding alone and hunting no one? I don't buy it.

Can anyone confirm that Sierra is who he says he is (excep for Firth, naturally)?

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:49 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:A Biblical character, riding alone and hunting no one? I don't buy it.

Can anyone confirm that Sierra is who he says he is (excep for Firth, naturally)?

Not so, if his role is legit then he may help us out greatly. The flood happened because God was angry and wanted the wash all the sinning and evil away from the world. If he's telling the truth he can help us later so I won't risk it for now. Unvote.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:58 pm

I don't want another LSU screwup, my vote stays on Firth for being the easiest way to sort it all out.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:45 pm

all those voting sierra should unvote. Koesen or firth are much better options for the lynch.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:57 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote: Speaking of which, should I kick the bucket tonight, I name Skoffin my succesor. You can trust her good intentions (if not her sanity ) as much as you could trust mine. Also there will be just one less person whom can confirm her pro-Towness.

First of all, I can not come up with theories 'up to mando's levels' I don't think I'm that creative/crazy

Second, thank you for ensuring my death

I see a "She's turning into mandy, quick get her!!!" in my future.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:46 am

Skoffin's theory may have been more complete, but mine came first. I claim a moral victory.

Anyway, the person I'm most suspiscious of thus far is AD. Last time he tried his "thick and fast" approach to roleclaiming, he turned out to be parasiting off the faction he was opposing (Civil War)

Vote: AD

Of course, he's in no real danger of being lynched today, but it's the thought that counts

[size=0]Note: If AD always does this, please point me to relivant games. I have a terrible memory for early games[/size]

Anyway, while I can see where everyone is coming from with the Sierra lynch, his roleclaim is at least believable. Of course, it is a fairly obvious one and the lack of any info regarding powers is a tad suspiscious

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:58 am

You came up with something? Lies, you are a liar sir! Stop stealing my glory!

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:05 am

Besides I already used the same argument for AD at the beginning of the day. You stealer!

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:07 am

I demand proof.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:12 pm

unvote

vote AD

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:33 pm

I have thought about the whole Noah/Sierra/Firth thing and I belive that I might have found an explanation that involves a bit less evil and a bit more stupidity.

Firth I am willing to stop crying for Sierra's blood if you tell the rest of the class the truth about how and why you came to know that I am Scum. I know that you already said that you can't talk about it and I don't belive this to be the truth. So, last chance: Tell the truth or Sierra dies. Go!

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:37 pm

Meh I got a message off jnd saying that God told me to lynch mandy.
I thought I would stick with the day cop role. It was soon after I got a no result on you. I wasn't going to say anything but changed my mind.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:49 pm

So God told you to lynch Mandy? That's it? How do you know it isn't Satan who sent this commandment? You think that's beyond his power?

It's EXACTLY as I had predicted. It was a god's message. And I think you have been deceived, but are not scum. It was an attempt from Satan to get either yourself, Mandy, or maybe both lynched.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:59 pm

jnd94 wrote:Gods...stupid gods....
Kalishnikov
Skittles

QFT

Ok guys, this is how I think things developed:

1. I claimed.
2. Good God puts some kind of super-protection on me.
3. Firth investigates.
4. I went after SL.
5. God (who obviously knows that Sierra is Noah) decided to get me lynched through Firth.

or

1-4
5. Devil (who values Sierra quite a lot) decided to lynch me through Firth.

I believe that there are 2 lessons to be drawn from all this: a) AD is the safer choice then SL at this moment and b) it takes 2+ deities to kill 1 Mandalorian.

Unvote
vote AD

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:06 pm

F1fth wrote:So God told you to lynch Mandy? That's it? How do you know it isn't Satan who sent this commandment? You think that's beyond his power?

It's EXACTLY as I had predicted. It was a god's message. And I think you have been deceived, but are not scum. It was an attempt from Satan to get either yourself, Mandy, or maybe both lynched.

Er, I might have been resonsible for it. After Firth's investigation failed and I realized that I was protected, I said something like "Thanks for the protection, Skittles." The fact that Kalish went after me after that says nothing about which God is good.

On the other hand, someone else might.

Sierra: Let's say that you are traveling through the Valley of the Shadow of Death. Whom would you choose to lead you through it, Kalish or Skittles?

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:32 pm

firth4eva wrote:Meh I got a message off jnd saying that God told me to lynch mandy.
I thought I would stick with the day cop role. It was soon after I got a no result on you. I wasn't going to say anything but changed my mind.

How was that phrased? Did jnd say something like "God wants you to lynch Mandy cause he's scum" or did he pass on a message saying something like "Hi, I'm God and I want you to lynch Mandy cause he's scum"?

I'm asking because in the latter case, there is no way of knowing whether the message really originated from God. If jnd himself says the message comes from God, I think it's much more reliable, though.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:19 pm

Did part of the message tell you you couldn't say anything? or did you not want to admit that it was likely a god message?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:53 pm

It was actually a message that could have come from any God.

I didn't want to say anything because I thought you would lynch me