Stargate Mafia end game...french people are evil..

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:28 am

nagerous wrote:Actually clive had a go at me and started to metagame and complain that I submarined in a game where I died night one and didn't have much of a chance to post because the lynch happened when I was sleeping so get your facts right cena.

you also had a go at him. Im not denying he had a go at you

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:30 am

I just defended myself against his accusations... I hadn't noticed him until he accused me

. Sorry for upsetting you by attacking your scum buddy though

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:31 am

nagerous wrote:I just defended myself against his accusations... I hadn't noticed him until he accused me . Sorry for upsetting you by attacking your scum buddy though

you just think im scum in every game where you dont die night 1

diddle · Post by **diddle** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:40 am

cena-rules wrote:
nagerous wrote:I just defended myself against his accusations... I hadn't noticed him until he accused me . Sorry for upsetting you by attacking your scum buddy though
you just think im scum in every game where you dont die night 1

Seems pretty logical to me, vote cena

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:39 pm

nagerous wrote:Actually clive had a go at me and started to metagame and complain that I submarined in a game where I died night one and didn't have much of a chance to post because the lynch happened when I was sleeping so get your facts right cena.

Now you are lying. You submarined in the game and the lynch happend an hour before the end of a 72 hour deadline. I just went through the game and checked. Those who were also in the game can confirm this. For this there is no way my vote is coming off you

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:54 pm

I can't remember the damn specifics of the game... I do know I woke up to see the deadline passed and the lynch had been reached. Clive your metagame argument is going way too far as is your obsession with me, read 50 or so other games I've been in... you'll notice I do not submarine everytime I'm town... Lyncher perhaps??? unvote vote clive I've had enough of your poor metagaming logic.

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:30 pm

Well, Cena's defense is pretty full of incoherences and backtracking so I think we might be unto something. Clive's argument is horrible but somehow I don't get the lyncher vibe from him, seeing how his vote happened day 1.
In case Clive is just a misguided townie (and if not it might be useful since there are several new players here), my 2 cents:
In general, I see metagaming as a big pile of BS; although there can be exceptions in very specific situations, as you might start to notice over time a particular player's style stays consistent (for example, things like 'Nes always claims doc or cop when scum' or 'Kwan submarines no matter what' or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed' might be more valid ideas than most

). The main problem is people like to use metagaming arguments when it's convenient to fit their vision or lack of case, regardless of its relevance.

-ShadySoul- · Post by **-ShadySoul-** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:00 pm

nagerous wrote:I can't remember the damn specifics of the game... I do know I woke up to see the deadline passed and the lynch had been reached. Clive your metagame argument is going way too far as is your obsession with me, read 50 or so other games I've been in... you'll notice I do not submarine everytime I'm town... Lyncher perhaps??? unvote vote clive I've had enough of your poor metagaming logic.

he has been on to u since day one....i am surprised that u only got pissed now lol

Minister Masket · Post by **Minister Masket** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:12 pm

This game is getting +500 logical counts on the wrong side of uncomfortable.
However I did notice that Ga7 managed to get two others to follow his vote after putting hardly anything on the table.

Obviously now this table is too cluttered; MAID!

spiesr · Post by **spiesr** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:15 pm

ga7 wrote:Well, Cena's defense is pretty full of incoherences and backtracking so I think we might be unto something.

Vote Cena

Clive · Post by **Clive** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:34 pm

I see no holes or backtracking in Cena's defense.

I hope were not gonna have a bandwagon lynch over nothing again. Why are you trying to insigate it ga7?

Lovo, when is the deadline?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:35 pm

unvote vote cena
fos clive

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:40 pm

vc please

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:52 pm

cena's defense is horrible but clive seems suspicious with his continuous voting of nag

Minister Masket · Post by **Minister Masket** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:00 pm

Personally I'm not seeing anything suspicious about cena. Actually by the looks of it, he was bullied into defending by naggy.

One thing I do know about scum behaviour is that they either post a huge amount, or not at all. Ga7 seems to be doing alot of the former ATM.

lord voldemort · Post by **lord voldemort** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:13 pm

yay a vc!!

nag (2) cena, clive
FRench (2) spurg, minister masket
cena (7) - french, illy, lsu crab, diddle, spiesr, firth
clive (1) - nag

appprox 48 hours til a lynch

LeiaBame · Post by **LeiaBame** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:23 am

Maybe It's because I'm new, but some of the Nag, Clive, Cena stuff just doesn't make since. I read it, re-read it, then figured I must be missing somthing, so I read the enither thread from the begining.

I didn't see nag as being a jerk; just trying to intice reactions from people.

I didn't see what Cena did as scummy; just trying to intice reactions from people(and maybe make a joke?). Plus, Cena is the one who said we shouldn't push for a lynch day one. If he was mafia, I'd think he'd want a lynch just to lynch someone.

The thing about Clive and the previous game referals; it doesn't make since to me to compare one previous game and come to a reasonalbe conclusion. I'm pretty sure in general comparing games isn't going to help a lot. It is, however, provoking. Either way, I don't think Clive should be giving Nag a hard time because of it. But he's new to mafia, too, so it's hard to blame him just yet. So, for now, my vote goes back to LSU Josh, because those Tigers are always sneaky.

Vote LSU

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:19 am

ga7 wrote:Well, Cena's defense is pretty full of incoherences and backtracking so I think we might be unto something. Clive's argument is horrible but somehow I don't get the lyncher vibe from him, seeing how his vote happened day 1.
In case Clive is just a misguided townie (and if not it might be useful since there are several new players here), my 2 cents:
In general, I see metagaming as a big pile of BS; although there can be exceptions in very specific situations, as you might start to notice over time a particular player's style stays consistent (for example, things like 'Nes always claims doc or cop when scum' or 'Kwan submarines no matter what' or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed' might be more valid ideas than most ). The main problem is people like to use metagaming arguments when it's convenient to fit their vision or lack of case, regardless of its relevance.

Stop saying my name or they'll notice me!

It's all part of the infallable kwan strategem

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:25 am

kwanton wrote:
ga7 wrote:Well, Cena's defense is pretty full of incoherences and backtracking so I think we might be unto something. Clive's argument is horrible but somehow I don't get the lyncher vibe from him, seeing how his vote happened day 1.
In case Clive is just a misguided townie (and if not it might be useful since there are several new players here), my 2 cents:
In general, I see metagaming as a big pile of BS; although there can be exceptions in very specific situations, as you might start to notice over time a particular player's style stays consistent (for example, things like 'Nes always claims doc or cop when scum' or 'Kwan submarines no matter what' or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed' might be more valid ideas than most ). The main problem is people like to use metagaming arguments when it's convenient to fit their vision or lack of case, regardless of its relevance.
Stop saying my name or they'll notice me!

It's all part of the infallable kwan strategem

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:12 am

I can kind off see the argument against Cena, but as yet it isn't enough to convince me to go for a kill.

At this stage, however, submariners are great targets.

I don't think he's posted at all today, so

Vote: MM10

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:24 am

Vote: MM PLease we get you're a lyncher and Frenchie-chan is your target. But please, don't make it so obvious. Every post of your is saying he's scummy. And that he's doing things, he's not.

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:32 am

Fircoal wrote:Vote: MM PLease we get you're a lyncher and Frenchie-chan is your target. But please, don't make it so obvious. Every post of your is saying he's scummy. And that he's doing things, he's not.

Kinda lazy to go back in the thread to check, so do me a favour to post them yourself please?

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:39 am

ga7 wrote: or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed'

Wtf?

Vote Ga7

-ShadySoul- · Post by **-ShadySoul-** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:54 am

Skoffin wrote:
ga7 wrote: or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed'
Wtf?

Vote Ga7

nice revenge

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:57 am

Skoffin wrote:
ga7 wrote: or 'Skoffin should always be vig killed'
Wtf?

Vote Ga7

Hehe has anyone noticed the ironic colours? Whie, red, blue, frenchie chan?