Europe 2.0

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:28 am

I am posting this after seeing comments in the Europe map thread-they are rather similar to those in the brittish isles thread before being revmaped

Our current Europe map is extreamly enjoyable for both playability and graphics; it is one of my favorate maps. However almost half of it consists of places not in Europe while ones that are in europe are merged together. However no revamp is being made because to do so would ruin playability and graphics on one of our best maps which i agree with.

However, what i am proposing is that a new map is made to work alongside the old map-one given a similar treatment to world 2.0 with every country included and not those outside europe not included.

Plese note: I am not wanting to make this map myself, I'm just putting the idea out there for discussion and the taking up of anyone who has some free time.

Anyway, just to put the suggestion out there

Edit:now i think of it, mabye this should have gone into foundry discussion-Ah well, it could go eather way.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:33 am

I'd support this.

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:39 am

i would to

Ogrecrusher · Post by **Ogrecrusher** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:41 am

What'd be awesome is if this was made like World 2.0 with sub continents and everything. Say Spain and France as sub continents, then hold them both + Portugal for "western europe" bonus.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:42 am

Go 4 it...

C.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:45 am

For the really tiny continents you might need to just put an abbreviation or a single letter on the map and then a key by the legend as fitting the names is going to be impossible.

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:32 am

Please do

militant · Post by **militant** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:35 am

I like this idea, it could be interesting.

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:38 am

why do people come here and not to comment on my prydain map????

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:13 pm

Glad it has support

bryguy wrote:why do people come here and not to comment on my prydain map????

*Pokes with stick*

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:20 am

If it's popular enough, I'd be willing to try my hand at a new Europe Map...

My initial thoughts would be to have all of the 47 European countries (recognised by the UN), with some possible additions:

If the UK was divided into England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, that makes 50.
The Faroe Islands would be a useful link between UK/Norway/Iceland. (51)
Could include Kaliningrad (between Poland/Lithuania) and European Russia, to help link Georgia/Azerbaijan/Armenia (53)
Turkey would be a useful link between the Eastern Europe and Georgia/Azerbaijan/Armenia (54)

That makes 54 territories. Not too sure how these would be grouped into sub-continents; but that would come later...

Ideas??

edit: I would not use the map shown above , but would probably create one from scratch.

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:53 am

Go 4 it...

c-r.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:18 am

I haven't had a chance to put any graphics together (been getting ready for Christmas!), but have had a couple of thoughts re gameplay...

Continents:
Scandinavia (Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Faroe Islands)
The Baltics (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania)
The Balkans (Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Serbia, Moldova, Romania, Slovenia)
Meditteranean Europe (Portugal, Spain, Monaco, Italy, San Marino, The Vatican, Greece)
Asian Borders (Russia, Kaliningrad, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey)
UK/British Isles (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales) / Ireland
Eastern Europe (Belarus, Ukraine)
Western Europe (France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Liechenstein, Switzerland)
Central Europe (Germany, Poland, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary)
(I think that's most of them!)

Additionally, I thought it would be interesting to have some minor bonuses for European territorial skirmishes;

ie
Cyprus: Greece+Cyprus=+1; Turkey+Cyprus=+1
N. Ireland: Ireland+N.Ireland=+1; England+N.Ireland=+1
Kaliningrad: Kaliningrad+Russia=+1; Kaliningrad+Germany=+1

It looks like I'll be away from a computer until Christmas, so please put any thoughts here in the meantime.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:30 pm

if the idea is to make a larger europe map with territories within small regions within countries, most of the work is already done. You could take the current British Isles map, France map, Iberia map (in progress), Italy map, and benelux map, and put them all together with a common visual scheme. You could use the existing territories and regions within the maps, then use the countries as larger bonuses a la the World 2.0 Continents. The territory lay-outs are already play tested and familiar to CC users, so why re-invent the wheel? You'd have to add regions in eastern europe and scandinvia of course, unless somebody gets on it and makes those maps.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:21 pm

Coleman wrote:For the really tiny continents you might need to just put an abbreviation or a single letter on the map and then a key by the legend as fitting the names is going to be impossible.

Or use the building gimmick and have the small countries drawn bigger. Like how mibi did for Baghdad in Iraq War!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:34 pm

you forget Andora,also Slovenia goes to Central europe.
you also can put baltic country to eastern europe,moldova also go to eastern europe(i think)

Sven Hassel · Post by **Sven Hassel** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:13 am

yes moldova is part of eastern europe

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:54 am

So has anyone taken up this project yet?

Telvannia · Post by **Telvannia** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:41 am

gimil wrote:So has anyone taken up this project yet?

im considering doing a dark age europe map. similar in style to my dark age britain map.

But i need to finish a few other things first.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:30 am

I migt take this if no one else has it after the british isles goes FF

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:25 pm

I'm now thinking of making a new Europe map with unique gameplay. However, it needs some xml mods first (it'll be pretty good though)

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:29 pm

MEDIEVAL EUROPE

-this map is currently under construction by me. I'ts going to take a bit to finish and christmas will slow it down. From past experiance i have found that my graphics skills are useless so anyone wanting to do that is welcome to contact me.
+++The map uses features which are not yet (and possibly may not be) installed on CC-it may not be able to be put up for a bit.+++

also, this is obviously not modern europe so anyone wanting to do Euro 2.0 is welcome

Sven Hassel · Post by **Sven Hassel** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:40 pm

i would suggest making a Europe 2.0 map with all europe countrys than a medieval europe map, but hey its your time and effort so go for it

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:14 pm

Sven Hassel wrote:i would suggest making a Europe 2.0 map with all europe countrys than a medieval europe map, but hey its your time and effort so go for it

As i said, europe 2.0 is still up for grabs

Medieval europe is being made by CWC in our forum and its actually coming along pretty well

Tel is making a good job with the graphics.

Sven Hassel · Post by **Sven Hassel** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:35 pm

ok then cant wait to see what it will look like