AJAX BOB 4.7.1 Development/Discussion (don't post bugs here)

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:29 am

Hey Yeti, I know you're probably working on a post site-improvements BoB upgrade, but if you have any sense of what's going on with the Scotland map I'll get on it. Perhaps something in the XML that BoB doesn't like?? It doesn't seem to be effecting actual gameplay, only BoB.

thanks.

benjikat · Post by **benjikat** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:25 am

Another small thing to tweak:

The negative territory bonues still show up (and get subtracted from the total bonus due) even if there is only one army on a territory, which will thus be unaffected next turn.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:33 am

Yeah territory bonuses - and new "deferred" armies stuff needs to be looked at - I also need to work out how they work (i.e. if you get deferred armies - and someone broke your continent - do you get that bonus or not)?

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yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:41 am

Scotland is failing because the countries have encoded entries...

I'm working up a fix now...

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yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:22 am

VERSION : 3.0.3

FIXED :

Yowzer94's Clock Parsing Fix
Scotland & problem

VERSION : 3.0.4

FIXED :

MFontolans Clock formatting code

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PS Cheers to both Yowzer and Mfontolan - I used your code almost verbatim - I tweaked the formatting code slightly to always output a clock when format was OFF.

yowzer14 · Post by **yowzer14** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:22 pm

yeti_c wrote:VERSION : 3.0.3

FIXED :

Yowzer94's Clock Parsing Fix
Scotland & problem

VERSION : 3.0.4

FIXED :

MFontolans Clock formatting code

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PS Cheers to both Yowzer and Mfontolan - I used your code almost verbatim - I tweaked the formatting code slightly to always output a clock when format was OFF.

Unfortunately an error still persists for the Scotland fix.

Code: Select all

Error: c has no properties
Source File: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ ... /%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js
Line: 3718

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:23 pm

Did you upgrade?

It works on my version...

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yowzer14 · Post by **yowzer14** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:49 pm

yeti_c wrote:Did you upgrade?

It works on my version...

C.

Yup, upgraded and still get an error.

crzyblue · Post by **crzyblue** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:06 pm

hey yeti, i found this strange issue check this out in the upper left corner of iberia map. I have the latest bob and remove bob everytime.

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:20 pm

yeti_c wrote:Scotland is failing because the countries have encoded entries...

Thanks for the fix yeti... I assume the problem is the "&amp" entries? if problems persist I'd be happy to switch out the ampsersands for "and" or the full character reference (&#x0026).

Berlin also has references for the german characters... I assume nobody has had problems there?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:47 pm

yowzer14 wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Did you upgrade?

It works on my version...

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Yup, upgraded and still get an error.

So doe BOB not work at all again?

Can you tell me what settings you have (you may need to goto another map?)

Also can you clear your error console and retest?

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Lobster Crush · Post by **Lobster Crush** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:24 pm

crzyblue wrote:hey yeti, i found this strange issue check this out in the upper left corner of iberia map. I have the latest bob and remove bob everytime.

hi crzyblue,

i've seen this before when playing on a slower internet connection. i think what's happening is that the "magicmap" required for map inspect isn't able to load (times out due to slower connection), so instead the text label of the map is used.

every time this happened to me, clicking "refresh map" cleared up the issue.

cheers,
LC

yowzer14 · Post by **yowzer14** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:32 pm

yeti_c wrote:
yowzer14 wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Did you upgrade?

It works on my version...

C.
Yup, upgraded and still get an error.
So doe BOB not work at all again?

Can you tell me what settings you have (you may need to goto another map?)

Also can you clear your error console and retest?

C.

Still does not work for Scotland...did a complete removal including prefs.js settings.... Still shows in error console as

Code: Select all

Error: c has no properties
Source File: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/garyh/Application%20Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/407xoggh.default/extensions/%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js
Line: 3718

Works on every other map I've checked.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:34 pm

yeti_c wrote: Can you tell me what settings you have (you may need to goto another map?)

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crzyblue · Post by **crzyblue** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:38 pm

i'm on a t3 at work lol... i'm sure the internet isn't slow

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:38 pm

crzyblue wrote:i'm on a t3 at work lol... i'm sure the internet isn't slow

Might not be your end...

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yowzer14 · Post by **yowzer14** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:14 pm

yeti_c wrote:
yeti_c wrote: Can you tell me what settings you have (you may need to goto another map?)

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BOB Menu v: 3.0.4

* Map Opacity: (50%)
* Map Centering Left:
(0 pixels)
* Map Centering Top:
(0 pixels)
* Text Map: Standard
* Jump to Map: On
* Stats: Extended
* Confirm Phase End: On
* Confirm AutoAttack: On
* Confirm Deploy: On
* Map Inspect: On
* Clock Format: am/pm
* Help/Info
* Check for Upgrades

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:42 pm

VERSION : 3.0.5

FIXED : Further Scotland map fixes.

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Aerial Attack · Post by **Aerial Attack** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:36 pm

yeti_c wrote:Yeah territory bonuses - and new "deferred" armies stuff needs to be looked at - I also need to work out how they work (i.e. if you get deferred armies - and someone broke your continent - do you get that bonus or not)?

C.

The above question only applies to Freestyle where you have the potential to lose a bonus mid-turn. I'm fairly certain that deferred armies is calculated almost identically to the way they were before being deferred.

Previously it was:

1. Total Deployable Armies = Armies Due * (Missed Turns + 1)

2. Attack Deployable Armies = Total Deployable Armies

Now it is something like this:

1. Total Deployable Armies = Armies Due * (Missed Turns + 1)

2a. Attack Deployable Armies = Armies Due * 1
2b. Deferred Deployment Armies = Total Deployable Armies - Attack Deployable Armies

So, as long as that calculation was completed before you lost your bonus - your deferred armies are good (or should be - I don't play much Freestyle).

-- Aerial Attack

P.S. If I get my AoRealms: AoMight Prince games up today - I'll take a look at the Armies Due code. (that's a HUGE if) and I'm not sure I could fix it anyways

bball_girl · Post by **bball_girl** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:38 pm

so i went to install the script and it says its version 0.7.20070607.0 is this the latest version? I thought the latest version was 3.05

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:10 pm

VERSION : 3.1.1

FIXED :

Reworked Territory Bonus display.
A third column is added to the calculations called TB (Territory Bonus)
Also this column is calculated based on what is actually taken off/added as your territory bonus... i.e. if you have decay of 5 and you only have 3 armies on the territory - then this bonus is calculated as -2 (i.e. 3 will decay to 1)
All territory bonuses are still shown in the continent list after the figures though.

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yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:11 pm

bball_girl wrote:so i went to install the script and it says its version 0.7.20070607.0 is this the latest version? I thought the latest version was 3.05

I think that is the version of GreaseMonkey...

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yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:14 pm

Aerial Attack wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Yeah territory bonuses - and new "deferred" armies stuff needs to be looked at - I also need to work out how they work (i.e. if you get deferred armies - and someone broke your continent - do you get that bonus or not)?

C.
The above question only applies to Freestyle where you have the potential to lose a bonus mid-turn. I'm fairly certain that deferred armies is calculated almost identically to the way they were before being deferred.

Previously it was:

1. Total Deployable Armies = Armies Due * (Missed Turns + 1)

2. Attack Deployable Armies = Total Deployable Armies

Now it is something like this:

1. Total Deployable Armies = Armies Due * (Missed Turns + 1)

2a. Attack Deployable Armies = Armies Due * 1
2b. Deferred Deployment Armies = Total Deployable Armies - Attack Deployable Armies

So, as long as that calculation was completed before you lost your bonus - your deferred armies are good (or should be - I don't play much Freestyle).

-- Aerial Attack

P.S. If I get my AoRealms: AoMight Prince games up today - I'll take a look at the Armies Due code. (that's a HUGE if) and I'm not sure I could fix it anyways

OK - seems the only way to code this will be to check for missed turns - and tot up all the armies assigned to the player that turn... which means more log processing - which means nasty slow code...

Hmmmm - I'll have to think about this one...

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Ishiro · Post by **Ishiro** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:52 pm

Aerial's explanation is more complicated than it needs to be. The way missed turn armies work now is:

Armies Due (calculate as normal)

Initial Deployment before attack phase = Armies Due

Deferred Deployment after attack phase = Armies Due * Missed Turns

If you are playing a classic game, hold Oceania and hold 12 countries, your armies due = 6 (2 + 4).
If you have missed one turn, you'll get 6 before attack and 6 after attack.
If you have missed two turns, you'll get 6 before attack and 12 after attack.

The simplest method would be to put the Armies due like you have now, but split the two numbers.
If the player missed one turn show: 6 (6)
If the player missed two turns show: 6 (12)

Then put a line under that section (below neutral) that says:
"Armies due lists any deferred armies due to a player in parentheses after their normal amount due."

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:51 am

VERSION : 3.2.1

FIXED :

Added new FOW calculator for territories - see number in brackets beyond the territories number.

This isn't it's final form yet - as the UI isn't that great yet - but it's first release...

Let me know if there are any errors.

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