Plains of Abraham/Battle for Quebec

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:25 pm

Okay...so I have this idea for a map but lack every single quality needed to make it happen ie: software, knowledge, skill, etc
So I thought I would throw it out here and if anyone wanted to pick up the idea then cool...if not then it can die...

A "Plains of Abraham/Battle for Quebec" map. British forces verses French forces for the city of Quebec kind of thing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... Quebec.png

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:24 pm

the map is hard to read where things happen

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:31 pm

a-person1192 wrote:the map is hard to read where things happen

yeah sorry...first one I found. I think this one is better

http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyameric ... ement.html

tim02 · Post by **tim02** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:41 pm

don't post here post in the Ideas sticky.

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:43 pm

tim02 wrote:don't post here post in the Ideas sticky.

oops...my bad. Please someone move it to where it is supposed to go...sorry. First time posting in here...

tim02 · Post by **tim02** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:46 pm

no problem I post the same message in the map ideas 5 times a day!

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:47 pm

i might tackle it, even though im novice at the mapmaking

edit- i'll do it i will need help with xml.

Night Strike · Post by **Night Strike** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:45 pm

I haven't done XML before, but would like to give it a shot.

Get a good starting image and gameplay idea, and I'll see if I want to throw my hat into this one.

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:14 am

ok i have a basic image and i have ran into a problem, there isn't too many territories. Night Strike you're welcome to help

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:53 am

How about this, you just drew continent borders. Make the insides of those territories.

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:09 am

that could work because there are entrenchments, also does any one know how to make ships?

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:46 am

I don't know how to make ships...I can barely turn my computer on without help...

But Coleman is right. Can make those continents and have smaller territories like Siege. Also divide up the St. Lawrence in to territories too maybe...
I sent you more thoughts in my PM to you...

d.gishman · Post by **d.gishman** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:53 pm

Yep this is a great idea, and an important part in Canadian history

I would like to see a map staying true to the historical map (as in the overall feel and style) maybe even having the ships playable like many of cairns's maps

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:03 pm

Im working on it, i can't make ships though but i have incorporated the ships.

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:30 pm

d.gishman wrote:Yep this is a great idea, and an important part in Canadian history

I would like to see a map staying true to the historical map (as in the overall feel and style) maybe even having the ships playable like many of cairns's maps

That is what I am hoping for as well...but my lack of any usable skills in this area makes me utterly useless...other than the original idea...

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:44 pm

don't worry about graphics at the moment.

just make a map that is playable. that means continents, territories, bonuses etc...

graphics can come later.

you have to keep in mind that space needs to be made for territory labels, army circles, the legend (which you seem to have placed) and also the title.

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:29 pm

will work on it.

benny profane · Post by **benny profane** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:03 pm

i think this can be a cool map, and i have a minor suggestion:
the land mass in the bottom right hand corner doesn't look like it will be used (no ports)...so, maybe that would be a better place for the legend. this would open up space for more territories.

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:02 pm

yeah that is a good point...

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:06 pm

ill take that into account

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:37 pm

Very, very, very, very rough draft. I have a 6 year old Paint program and...well...I am not good. Not even good enough to make a legend on it...so had to type that up separate. And I don't know how to label the territories...so they are nameless right now.

But this is the idea so far.

Legend

Purple/Wolfe’s Camp -2
Light Blue/Hardy’s Camp -2
Dark Green/Moncton’s Camp -5
All 3 British Camps - plus 5

Dark Blue/Levi’s Camp -3
Brown/Montcalm’s Camp -3
Teal/Vaundreuil Camp -3
All 3 French Camps -plus 5

Grey/Quebec -6

Plains of Abraham -15
(Plains start with 15 neutrals)

Ports can attack other ports

Now the idea is to make the battle for the Plains of Abraham a battle. One of the ideas is to make it full of neutrals to start with...but how many? Do you make any stipulations to go with it? Like you have to own all three of either the British Camps or French Camp? I like this idea of having to own all three of either the British camps or French camps to hold onto the Plains...but is that even possible to do with code? Hold onto to it for one turn or something like that and you win...or just hold it for one turn and your camps and get a crazy large army bonus?

We also wanted to incorporate ships into it...but don't think there is enough room. Also I am unsure of the amount of ports to have (the little brown lines sticking out into the rivers). Is it a better idea to have direct routes to certain territories?

So please bring on the criticism or suggestions

(this is as good as it is going to get for graphics from me anyway...I don't have the skill or tools)

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:02 pm

gimp is free and I'm pretty sure mibi's terraforming tutorial will work with it.

That said if you really don't have the interest in learning that you'll need to find an artist somehow.

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:20 pm

Coleman wrote:gimp is free and I'm pretty sure mibi's terraforming tutorial will work with it.

That said if you really don't have the interest in learning that you'll need to find an artist somehow.

I have got a-person1192 helping me out with it Coleman

a-person1192 · Post by **a-person1192** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:24 pm

sorry for not having an update, ive been busy with school work and studying for finals. ill probalbly have an update after this week.

keiths31 · Post by **keiths31** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:18 pm

no worries...looking forward to seeing it