Classroom Mafia Mafia wins!

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:27 am

Fircoal wrote:Well that sucks, the cop and the doc are both dead. LSU seems like a good target for the mafia to go after. which means we probably don't have a naive mafia.

Do you realise you've posted a carbon copy of what I said last night?

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:58 am

Skittles! wrote:After re-reading, I've come to suspect Balsiefan (or whatever his name is). He always countered what NES said, and never gave a thought to what NES was saying. Even if other things came up, he always just went after NES.

That may make no sense to you, but I suggest to go back and re-read.

vote balsiefan (or whatever)

After a little re-reading of my own, I would have to say that I stand with my former statement. Yes, Balsifen's posts only concerned NES, but, truth be told, that entire first day was more or less about NES and his noobishness. Anyway, I consider his points to be quite valid. NES tried to pin scummyness on Fircoal, and Balfisen responded with why this made no sence. Then he made some wild acusation about something or other, and Balsifen rebutted that too.
I really don't see where scummyness comes into it.

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:01 am

Okay, in response to these votes I thaught I would read back and look at my posts to see where you are getting this from

Balsiefen wrote:Unvote

NESconqueror wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
NESconqueror wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Eh, what the heck... I don't like editters, and I don't like people that complain about getting voted.

unvote
vote: NES
I am not fond of your decision... (Not a complaint)
I will warn thee all one LAST time, You have caught the wrong man...
Do not get me wrong, but I am quite suspicious about Fircoal, and with that, my vote stays.
My internet is thankfully improving at the least.
Every newb is suspicious of Fircoal, he always wants to be lynched by the newbs. Funny thing that.
I am not suspicious for no reason, but rather think that fircoal is out to get everyone... so do NOT get rid of me for the sake of everyone's fate.
Would you like to give us a reason for not getting rid of you?

Ive had a look at fir's posts, why do you think he's out to get everyone?He's only random voted once and he has'nt really accused too many people.

FOS Nes I may choose to turn this into a vote soon

Ok, at this point a couple of people (including skittles) had already voted NES. I only FOS’d him and I think my points were valid for day one where no-one else had made a slip up

After this NES said he was not scum (which anyone could do) and had hinted at a power role

Balsiefen wrote:At the moment your getting the worst of both worlds, If you are not mafia, the mafia now know you have some kind of power role, your roleclame however is not specific so it sounds like you are afraid of saying what you really are in case the person who really has the power role exposes you

Your still sounding pretty scummy to me

This was more advice to him than anything else, I thaught if he was a noob making bad posts he could turn it around from here

”NES” wrote:EXCUSE ME for not being the world's best convincer... Persuasive essays were NEVER my thing... So LYNCH ME IF YOU MUST, but I say that you should not if you know what is good for you...
And because I said MAY does not mean I HAVE A ROLE.

That was my response

After this there was a lot of requests for nes to role claim and votes which NES bandwagoned with against these people

Balsiefen wrote:
NESconqueror wrote: Hold the PRESSES. Sure a kill may not happen, but that leaves the townies alive and well.

No it doesn't, not when the mafia kill off someone, and we won't have learned anything

That would allow the doctor(s) to defend any students under attack by the nerds
How will the doctors know which students are under attack? they could just as easily protect the mafia. As for you, you confuse everyone with vuagely hinting at power roles which leaves you suspicious to both mafia and town. I'm not trying to get you to roleclaim here but if you are town i will be very suprised if the mafia let you survive the night. Honistly though, you've given me very little reason to believe you are town.

. I wish to be spared for once! (I am tired of being the day one killed [first game left me that way])
Not our problem mate

At this point I finally voted him, I hoped putting him at -1 would make him more able to come up with a meaningful response

After this point he was lynched.

I don’t think I was harsh on nes, I admit most of my posts were against him but he never gave a response that satisfied me. While others were wanting role-claims they did not make half as many scummy posts as NES and backed up requests quite well even if it was scummy to want a roleclaim. I always gave thought to what Nes was saying and only countered it because he wasn’t making a good job at making himself look scummy. Scittles however voted him early on and barely backed it up.

I think my vote was fair and my points well made, I know NES wasn’t mafia but I, like the rest that voted him, was convinced he was scum

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:02 am

one of my quotes didn't work...

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:25 am

Skoffin wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Well that sucks, the cop and the doc are both dead. LSU seems like a good target for the mafia to go after. which means we probably don't have a naive mafia.
Do you realise you've posted a carbon copy of what I said last night?

Your Post:

Skoffin wrote: Well for the death of LSU I'm assuming someone either shot randomly, or we have a smart player on our hands.
Err.. not sure about the Life-saver one though, anyone have any crazy theories?

Sure it seems pretty much the same. I was going along with you that it's probably a smart player. And I said that it probably isn't a random shot. But we'll see.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:26 am

The way Balsiefen says it doesn't make it seem too wrong.

Sadly, we can't get too much out of the last day considering that everyone wanted to lynch NES for a reason or so.

Minister Masket · Post by **Minister Masket** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:04 am

FOS on dominationnation
Has been a tad quiet lately.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:34 am

Okay, you convinced me Balsiefan unvote

-Sigh-

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:23 am

Skittles! wrote:Okay, you convinced me Balsiefen unvote

-Sigh-

Thank you

Anyway, i'm still a bit short of suspicions, i might re-read the thread again.

FiveThreeEight · Post by **FiveThreeEight** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:30 am

Strong case, Balsiefen. So...

Unvote.
FOS: Balsiefen.

I'm gonna have to see how some of this plays out before making a final decision.

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:31 pm

Minister Masket wrote:FOS on dominationnation
Has been a tad quiet lately.

Sorry I havnt been on for the whole weekend but IM back now and activity will resume.

As for thoeries. I dont have any. Not much has really happened. I now afraid now cause we have a scum and probably an S/K because neither of those kills really seemed scummy so I doubt a vig would of done that.

LSU Tiger Josh · Post by **LSU Tiger Josh** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:51 pm

if you need a replacement illiad let me know

magneticgoop · Post by **magneticgoop** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:45 pm

i dont know about bal for now a fos bal if nothing better comes up he will have my vote

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:33 pm

Why am i still getting FOS's? what arn't people satisfied about?

FiveThreeEight · Post by **FiveThreeEight** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:43 pm

FOS: Skittles!

For contradicting yourself in two different posts. Which did you want? A role claim, or no?

Skittles! wrote:
dominationnation wrote:okay people we only have one day so we better start agreeing. here is my list of suspects in order

3-skittles!-trying to get NES from evoiding a role claim at -1 lynch. That can either mean that they are both scum, and skittles was trying to both, prevent him from giving himself away and distract attention from him. Or that Skittles is scum and NES isnt and skittles wanted to make sure that nes didnt give a role claim thus proving himself innocent.
Why would I want to him to roleclaim? Pushing someone to roleclaim is considered scummy. If he did have a power role, and the doc didn't believe, then he would be killed via the mafia through the pushing of a roleclaim.

How would NES not role-claiming prove I'm innocent? It doesn't prove anything except the mafia has a clear target of a possibly power pro-town role. If the Doc did protect NES with his "big pro town role", then the mafia can wipe out others, thus it would be better if the mafia be kept in the dark of his role.

To sum it up; do you want the doc to be tied up with NES and not protect anyone else?

and:

Skittles! wrote:
dominationnation wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
dominationnation wrote:okay people we only have one day so we better start agreeing. here is my list of suspects in order

3-skittles!-trying to get NES from evoiding a role claim at -1 lynch. That can either mean that they are both scum, and skittles was trying to both, prevent him from giving himself away and distract attention from him. Or that Skittles is scum and NES isnt and skittles wanted to make sure that nes didnt give a role claim thus proving himself innocent.
Why would I want to him to roleclaim? Pushing someone to roleclaim is considered scummy. If he did have a power role, and the doc didn't believe, then he would be killed via the mafia through the pushing of a roleclaim.

How would NES not role-claiming prove I'm innocent? It doesn't prove anything except the mafia has a clear target of a possibly power pro-town role. If the Doc did protect NES with his "big pro town role", then the mafia can wipe out others, thus it would be better if the mafia be kept in the dark of his role.

To sum it up; do you want the doc to be tied up with NES and not protect anyone else?
Are you asking me-do you want the doc to have a good idea as to who to protect rather than randomly guessing and possably protecting a mafia-then the answer is yes.
But in time, what if we find out that someone else has a bigger pro-town power role and we've just been wasting a doc?

Ah, I'm floundering. Slowly... pushing... for... a... role...claim.

First, you say you don't want a role claim, saying that it would be better if the mafia remain clueless. Then, you want a role claim, which, to me, makes you appear like mafia, thirsting after knowledge.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:46 pm

actually I think it's more that he got persuaded by the town, and maybe didn't want to look like mafia so went with the town.

FiveThreeEight · Post by **FiveThreeEight** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:47 pm

Either way, it's suspicious.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:05 am

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:if you need a replacement illiad let me know

I still have 3!

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:22 am

Fircoal wrote:actually I think it's more that he got persuaded by the town, and maybe didn't want to look like mafia so went with the town.

Pretty much. I got convinced that the doc (if it wasn't NES, unfortunately it seemed that he was) could protect him if he role claimed. As stated before, it's just unfortunate that he was the doc and so therefore couldn't exactly role claim and protect yourself.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:28 am

Night starts in 26 hours

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:33 am

Skittles! wrote:
Fircoal wrote:actually I think it's more that he got persuaded by the town, and maybe didn't want to look like mafia so went with the town.
Pretty much. I got convinced that the doc (if it wasn't NES, unfortunately it seemed that he was) could protect him if he role claimed. As stated before, it's just unfortunate that he was the doc and so therefore couldn't exactly role claim and protect yourself.

Meh, Skittles! story is sound, because his explanation here goes along with how his posts where going then.

So it's not really scummy.

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:46 am

Skittles! wrote:
Fircoal wrote:actually I think it's more that he got persuaded by the town, and maybe didn't want to look like mafia so went with the town.
Pretty much. I got convinced that the doc (if it wasn't NES, unfortunately it seemed that he was) could protect him if he role claimed. As stated before, it's just unfortunate that he was the doc and so therefore couldn't exactly role claim and protect yourself.

Erm, I mean "himself", not "yourself".

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:13 am

Hmmm, day 2 is looking to be a repeat of Day 1.

I had someone in my sights for minor instances of scummy behaveour, but unfortunatly I have forgotten who and what.
I should remember by morning.

FiveThreeEight · Post by **FiveThreeEight** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:22 am

Well, that's the only thing I had. Anyone else?

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:21 am

I honestly have no theories about anything. Someone comeup with something. Im to tiered to go back and read so can someone else do it and tell me what they find.