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Just make sure you know what you are doing...nmhunate wrote:And sexy, Ladies. Ladies, trust me there is nothing more sexy than a woman smoking a cigar. If you are crushing a boy, let him catch you smoking one.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
This is what's referred to as the "honeymoon stage".nmhunate wrote:Well Tim, I think what we have to do is not get addicted. I smoke cigarettes occasionally and cigars more often... but never more than a few times a year.
It's a totally different phenomenon. Absolutely. Basically, I think this schematic kinda gets it: So, you're smoking a cigar.nmhunate wrote:You see when I smoke a cigar it does not represent me sucking on a penis. Remember the Freud quote. It however is different with women.
Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
Timminz wrote:By that logic, you eat babies.

Just cool? Dude looks positively cold!Backglass wrote:VERY COOL!!!
Just LOOK at how cool he is!

Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
A drug addict will go to great lengths to justify his addiction.mandalorian2298 wrote:Personally, I smoke cigarettes because I enjoy the taste and the feel of smoking. I am really starting to get annoyed with all those militant non-smokers out there who act as if they have any saying in what I put in my mouth. Don't get me wrong, I am all for banning smoking in public buildings, but if a bar owner wants his customers to smoke and he is being truthful about it, then no one has the right to force him to ban smoking in his bar. This blatant disregard for the freedom of the individual is advocated the loudest by the same bleeding hearts who are also loudest in defending 'democracy' and 'democratic values'. The only really 'democratic value' is assigning control of most of the political power to the dumbest masses available.
That is the cool thing about smoking - by lighting a cigarette you are showing those around yourself that, as long as hypocrisy is the measure of civilization, you don't want be considered civilized. Anyone got a light?

are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries.Actually, if the bar is operated by owners and has no employees, no problem. The problem arises when employees are exposed to the second hand smoke. Expecting an employee to waive the right to a smoke free environment is unreasonable. However, if the owner makes each employee an owner whether by given them a stock share or some other indicia of real ownership -- power on.Backglass wrote:An drug addict will go to great lengths to justify his addiction.mandalorian2298 wrote:Personally, I smoke cigarettes because I enjoy the taste and the feel of smoking. I am really starting to get annoyed with all those militant non-smokers out there who act as if they have any saying in what I put in my mouth. Don't get me wrong, I am all for banning smoking in public buildings, but if a bar owner wants his customers to smoke and he is being truthful about it, then no one has the right to force him to ban smoking in his bar. This blatant disregard for the freedom of the individual is advocated the loudest by the same bleeding hearts who are also loudest in defending 'democracy' and 'democratic values'. The only really 'democratic value' is assigning control of most of the political power to the dumbest masses available.
That is the cool thing about smoking - by lighting a cigarette you are showing those around yourself that, as long as hypocrisy is the measure of civilization, you don't want be considered civilized. Anyone got a light?
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They aren't really health benefits either. So if someone chooses not to smoke, and doesn't care much about other people smoking (at least not in an enclosed space), what is the problem?nmhunate wrote:Oh my goodness people, Please take the time to consider the fact that there are people out there that arent heavy smokers. That there are people out there that only smoke in moderation. All those yucky pictures of people you see of smokers are 1 or 2 pack a day smokers.
There are those out there who can count on one hand how many cigarettes or cigars they have had in the last 6 months. Of course those who are addicted to tobacco have a problem, just like those who are addicted to alcohol or cocaine have a problem.
But please, do not believe into the hype that the man is feeding you. Smoking in moderation increases your rick of cancer no more than going to the beach on a sunny afternoon. Smoking in moderation is no different then drinking in moderation. These things aren't problems.
If you believe this load of crap, smoke. Please smoke as much as you want, we could use the tax dollars to pay for smoking related illnesses. However, don't bring you second hand smoke into a building, car, tent, or whatever that those of us who don't smoke inhabit.nmhunate wrote:Oh my goodness people, Please take the time to consider the fact that there are people out there that arent heavy smokers. That there are people out there that only smoke in moderation. All those yucky pictures of people you see of smokers are 1 or 2 pack a day smokers.
There are those out there who can count on one hand how many cigarettes or cigars they have had in the last 6 months. Of course those who are addicted to tobacco have a problem, just like those who are addicted to alcohol or cocaine have a problem.
But please, do not believe into the hype that the man is feeding you. Smoking in moderation increases your rick of cancer no more than going to the beach on a sunny afternoon. Smoking in moderation is no different then drinking in moderation. These things aren't problems.
Wait...so the risks of smoking are all just hype? Do you truly believe that if you only smoke on weekends, you are somehow "safe" from the effects?nmhunate wrote:Oh my goodness people, Please take the time to consider the fact that there are people out there that arent heavy smokers. That there are people out there that only smoke in moderation. All those yucky pictures of people you see of smokers are 1 or 2 pack a day smokers.
There are those out there who can count on one hand how many cigarettes or cigars they have had in the last 6 months. Of course those who are addicted to tobacco have a problem, just like those who are addicted to alcohol or cocaine have a problem.
But please, do not believe into the hype that the man is feeding you. Smoking in moderation increases your rick of cancer no more than going to the beach on a sunny afternoon. Smoking in moderation is no different then drinking in moderation. These things aren't problems.

are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries.Oh, I believe you should be able to smoke all you want to and agree with you about smoking around kids. But he is deluding himself if he thinks that since he isn't a pack a day smoker, he therefor isn't addicted and is somehow immune to the consequences. Certainly the more you smoke the higher the risk, but the ONLY risk-free choice is to not smoke in the first place.mpjh wrote:Who cares what he believes. The only concern I have is if he has children and smokes in the house and car exposing the children. There are states that have laws prohibiting smoking in a car with children in the car. But if he only exposes himself and adults who consent, let him smoke.

are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries.Yes, but they are few, and far between, when compared to full-time, or reformed smokers. I think you grossly underestimate the addictive power of cigarettes.nmhunate wrote:There are those out there who can count on one hand how many cigarettes or cigars they have had in the last 6 months.
Out of the hundreds of smokers I've ever met, I could count on one hand the number who could count on one hand the number of smokes they've had in the last six months.Timminz wrote:Yes, but they are few, and far between, when compared to full-time, or reformed smokers. I think you grossly underestimate the addictive power of cigarettes.nmhunate wrote:There are those out there who can count on one hand how many cigarettes or cigars they have had in the last 6 months.
My point exactly! I would just like to add that a person who applies for a job of waiter in a bar that has a big 'SMOKING ALLOWED' sign in front is, to my mind, a consenting adult. Laws should protect people's right to choose whether or not they are going to expose themselves to tobacco smoke. But, today, it is more popular to design laws that protect people by taking away their right to choose and absolving them of responsibility for their own choices. Some people may like to live in a brain-optional society, but, personally, I don't feel morally obligated to respect the laws enforced by such a society.mpjh wrote:Who cares what he believes. The only concern I have is if he has children and smokes in the house and car exposing the children. There are states that have laws prohibiting smoking in a car with children in the car. But if he only exposes himself and adults who consent, let him smoke.

Talapus wrote: I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.