Dancing Mustard wrote:To be fair though, it really is an outdated old load of tosh.
It'd be far more credible if you just replaced it with a new, clearer and better thought out version. Running your country on such an creaking pile of anachronistic rhetoric is a lot like competing in a Nascar race with a Model T Ford. It's just ridiculous.
I mean come on, it's got more amendments than original clauses! It used to protect slavery as a fundamental right! The whole thing is bananas and you'd be far better served by ripping it up and just starting again with a new and improved model.
I hope I'm missing the sarcasm here.
The amendments are there so we don't have to write a whole new document when something changes. Used to, is the key part of that sentence. Our constitution isn't what needs to be a new and improved model.
captain.crazy wrote:
Sure... and even as I was standing out in front of my house today, I could see three jets in the sky... one had contrails, leaving a trail that lasted about 2 or three miles, maybe, then dissapating, while the other, left a cloud that spanned the entire sky, all the way to the horizon. How hard is it to believe that our government is doing something up there? Just remember that it wasn't very long ago that forced sterilizations were being issued in our country, And when I say not long ago, I mean in the mid 70's...
You've got kids, right? Looks like they missed somebody they shouldn't have.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Dancing Mustard wrote:To be fair though, it really is an outdated old load of tosh.
It'd be far more credible if you just replaced it with a new, clearer and better thought out version. Running your country on such an creaking pile of anachronistic rhetoric is a lot like competing in a Nascar race with a Model T Ford. It's just ridiculous.
I mean come on, it's got more amendments than original clauses! It used to protect slavery as a fundamental right! The whole thing is bananas and you'd be far better served by ripping it up and just starting again with a new and improved model.
I hope I'm missing the sarcasm here.
The amendments are there so we don't have to write a whole new document when something changes. Used to, is the key part of that sentence. Our constitution isn't what needs to be a new and improved model.
Nope. Deadly serious.
Your whole Constitution is in need of one big amendment. Otherwise known as a rewrite.
It's riddled with inane anachronisms, irrelevancies, and inaccuracies. Up until now you've stemmed the bleeding with a flurry of 'amendments', but it really is time to stop pretending that it's sacred and perfect... it's barely seaworthy and you really need to have a second stab at it. At present the thing is a joke and it's not fit to regulate your country in the 21st Century.
Continued slavish adherence to a document so flagrantly past its sell-by-date is charming, but ultimately misguided and foolish.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
Comment - The great part of this argument (the thing I truly like about politics) is that if the unemployment rate had decreased, the president would be taking credit for the decrease. Because the unemployment rate has increased, the president (and his supporters) will deny that it is his administration's fault. Now, I'm not saying it is his fault that it has increased (because it's really not). But, keep this all in mind when, in two months, the unemployment rate drops 0.5% and the adminsitration begins to crow about it.
Question - Dancing Mustard, are there specific portions of the US Constitution that you find (1) anachronistic and/or (2) inaccurate? I don't disagree that there are provisions in the US Constitution that are irrelevant. Not sure that bears a rewrite. Further, I'm not really sure how a document that is not based on fact can be inaccurate. For example, the entitlement to free speech or free religion... how can that possibly be accurate or inaccurate? In any event, can you please specifically point to the specific provisions of the US Constitution that you believe need to be changed as anachronistic and/or inaccurate? You don't have to put the text in, you can just give me the amendment or article.
AAFitz wrote:are you suggesting that obama lost all those people their jobs, and it was not a result of the economy crashing, and being in a state of freefall when he took over?
What I am suggesting is that he and Bush were all on the same page about serving their bankster masters when they bailed them uot and cranked up this massive stimulus. its all been orchestrated to put into place a global dictatorship, where we all eat foods that are genetically modified, live in a constant police state, in a constant cloud of God knows what, as it rains down from the chem trailing air craft. Its pretty sad how blind the masses are.
Because they want to attain the same kind of limitless power and ultimate mastery that they already have. They're just really keen on doing things in the most complex way possible, so they're happily abandoning the status quo in which they already have limitless power in order to try to pull off an incredibly complicated scheme that will give them a new, less-probable and ultimately more untenable status quo that will afford them precisely the same kind of limitless power that they already enjoy.
It really makes perfect sense, if you apply your mind to it.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
I believe its something akin to why you guys take the time to insult me instead of just stating your disagreement and move on. You get a little ego boost out of the deal. They get a massive one. Something like "HA! see, we can make YOU irrelevent by making you sterile and generating clones to do the work we want you to do instead!" Or, "Look at how miseralbe you are without us, your gods... without us, you would have no one to oppress you..." Or my favorite... "Our Lord satan wants us to send in CPS to take your children away, so that we can cut them open on a table of sacrifice and drink their blood..."
I think that the last one is the real reason. The problem for them is that child sacrifice is largely frowned upon by the masses that are to "donate" the sacrifice.
captain.crazy wrote:I believe its something akin to why you guys take the time to insult me instead of just stating your disagreement and move on. You get a little ego boost out of the deal. They get a massive one. Something like "HA! see, we can make YOU irrelevent by making you sterile and generating clones to do the work we want you to do instead!" Or, "Look at how miseralbe you are without us, your gods... without us, you would have no one to oppress you..." Or my favorite... "Our Lord satan wants us to send in CPS to take your children away, so that we can cut them open on a table of sacrifice and drink their blood..."
I think that the last one is the real reason. The problem for them is that child sacrifice is largely frowned upon by the masses that are to "donate" the sacrifice.
You could have just saved yourself a lot of time by posting:
"I am clearly a troll"
It'd have had the same net effect.
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
captain.crazy wrote:
If you look more closely, you will see that the bankers decide who the president will be. It was obvious that the banks, and the media wanted Obama. MSM never touched the issues of who Obama associated with. Its obvious that he is out to break this country down.
You're right, I never heard a single thing about, for instance, who Obama's minister at one time was. I also never heard a single thing about a radical who happened to be on a committee (or something, I don't remember the specifics because I never heard a single thing about it) that Obama also served on.
Not a single thing.
No response to this one, captain.crazy?
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
the last patriot wrote:So are we better off?
State unemployment, November 2008
Rank State Rate
6 ALABAMA 3.1
49 ALASKA 6.1
15 ARIZONA 3.5
45 ARKANSAS 5.7
42 CALIFORNIA 5.6
16 COLORADO 3.7
30 CONNECTICUT 4.7
13 DELAWARE 3.4
46 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 5.8
22 FLORIDA 4.2
30 GEORGIA 4.7
2 HAWAII 2.7
1 IDAHO 2.5
40 ILLINOIS 5.3
27 INDIANA 4.6
18 IOWA 3.9
17 KANSAS 3.8
42 KENTUCKY 5.6
12 LOUISIANA 3.3
33 MAINE 4.8
19 MARYLAND 4.0
23 MASSACHUSETTS 4.3
51 MICHIGAN 7.7
30 MINNESOTA 4.7
49 MISSISSIPPI 6.1
42 MISSOURI 5.6
6 MONTANA 3.1
10 NEBRASKA 3.2
38 NEVADA 5.2
10 NEW HAMPSHIRE 3.2
20 NEW JERSEY 4.1
6 NEW MEXICO 3.1
27 NEW YORK 4.6
33 NORTH CAROLINA 4.8
13 NORTH DAKOTA 3.4
48 OHIO 5.9
25 OKLAHOMA 4.4
41 OREGON 5.5
26 PENNSYLVANIA 4.5
36 RHODE ISLAND 4.9
46 SOUTH CAROLINA 5.8
4 SOUTH DAKOTA 2.9
27 TENNESSEE 4.6
20 TEXAS 4.1
3 UTAH 2.8
23 VERMONT 4.3
6 VIRGINIA 3.1
33 WASHINGTON 4.8
37 WEST VIRGINIA 5.0
38 WISCONSIN 5.2
4 WYOMING 2.9
Unemployment through May 09
1 NEBRASKA 4.4
1 NORTH DAKOTA 4.4
3 SOUTH DAKOTA 5.0
3 WYOMING 5.0
5 UTAH 5.4
6 IOWA 5.8
7 MONTANA 6.3
7 OKLAHOMA 6.3
9 NEW HAMPSHIRE 6.5
9 NEW MEXICO 6.5
11 LOUISIANA 6.6
12 ARKANSAS 7.0
12 KANSAS 7.0
14 TEXAS 7.1
14 VIRGINIA 7.1
16 MARYLAND 7.2
17 VERMONT 7.3
18 HAWAII 7.4
19 COLORADO 7.6
20 IDAHO 7.8
21 CONNECTICUT 8.0
22 DELAWARE 8.1
23 ARIZONA 8.2
23 MASSACHUSETTS 8.2
23 MINNESOTA 8.2
23 NEW YORK 8.2
23 PENNSYLVANIA 8.2
28 MAINE 8.3
29 ALASKA 8.4
30 WEST VIRGINIA 8.6
31 NEW JERSEY 8.8
32 WISCONSIN 8.9
33 MISSOURI 9.0
34 WASHINGTON 9.4
35 MISSISSIPPI 9.6
36 GEORGIA 9.7
37 ALABAMA 9.8
38 ILLINOIS 10.1
39 FLORIDA 10.2
40 INDIANA 10.6
40 KENTUCKY 10.6
42 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 10.7
42 TENNESSEE 10.7
44 OHIO 10.8
45 NORTH CAROLINA 11.1
46 NEVADA 11.3
47 CALIFORNIA 11.5
48 RHODE ISLAND 12.1
48 SOUTH CAROLINA 12.1
50 OREGON 12.4
51 MICHIGAN 14.1
I see North Dakota is second. It is also fact that North Dakota has the highest income growth rate in the nation. Palin has the second highest approval ratings out of all the governors in the country. John Hoeven of North Dakota has the highest. North Dakota is actually in a economic Surplus.
