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You have set up a ton of one gametype and it has attracted New Recruits.TheForgivenOne
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TheForgivenOne
MrPipes What your saying is he is systematically farming new players with a preset game strategy and that is ok on this site?
The rule on this site ONLY is in affect if New Recruits are being played. Not low ranks.
^^ AND...
He doesn't 'systematically farm' them... they join on their own. He doesn't go around and join the all, they join his games. And as you might have noticed, he doesn't even invite them.
Rulings in the past have actually had warnings and Point Resets for players who set up a ton of one gametype in hopes that it attracts only attracts New Recruits. So that doesn't exactly fly anymore.
You missed out the crucial word from TFO's judgement: "hopes". Now excuse me, I'm off to collect some faggots.Dibbun wrote:TheForgivenOne on March 19, 2011 said this from this thread: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 9&t=140612
You have set up a ton of one gametype and it has attracted New Recruits.TheForgivenOne
QoH
TheForgivenOne
MrPipes What your saying is he is systematically farming new players with a preset game strategy and that is ok on this site?
The rule on this site ONLY is in affect if New Recruits are being played. Not low ranks.
^^ AND...
He doesn't 'systematically farm' them... they join on their own. He doesn't go around and join the all, they join his games. And as you might have noticed, he doesn't even invite them.
Rulings in the past have actually had warnings and Point Resets for players who set up a ton of one gametype in hopes that it attracts only attracts New Recruits. So that doesn't exactly fly anymore.
this is a quote from the aboive linkeye84free wrote:Ok this is alot to take in. But I think I got it.
First off, I cant find any proff that he invited the players to the games, this being said he can not control the people who join, most games were noobs that joined but some other players that are more expeiranced also joined some. So for farming as it stands now I will note this for future referance.
Same map, not the same practice by the looks of it. 4 player vs. 5 player. I agree that any conquest maps is ideal when players have 2 starting points. The site needs to find a way of blocking new recruits from these games if they are that concerned. For those who do systematically farm new recruits, what a waste of time. I'm not sure people can convince themselves that 1. points really matter than much and 2. using cheap tactics to gain those points somehow validates your intelligence. A win is only a win if the opponent is worthy.Rodion wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 9&t=129452 - noted
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 3#p2841013
Coincidentally, it was the same practice on the same map.

KraphtOne wrote:I got a warning, you got "noted" this guy will get "cleared" next guy will get "point reset"
It's literally just whatever mood they're in
New recruits should only have access to standard style maps (Classic/Ireland/England/........plenty more) and not be allowed join conquest style maps (Pelop War/Kings Court/.....) I am sure there are lots of people on this site who play/played many times on conquest style maps which hav 8 startin positions on 4 way games because it makes sense and are not lookin to attract New Recruits but inevitably the way the site is set up that is what happens and if u had a REAL problem with this (not just that ur been vindictive towards ad10r3tr0 due to comments made in other stupid reports opened by u) then open up a thread in the suggestions forumLubawski wrote: Same map, not the same practice by the looks of it. 4 player vs. 5 player. I agree that any conquest maps is ideal when players have 2 starting points. The site needs to find a way of blocking new recruits from these games if they are that concerned. For those who do systematically farm new recruits, what a waste of time. I'm not sure people can convince themselves that 1. points really matter than much and 2. using cheap tactics to gain those points somehow validates your intelligence. A win is only a win if the opponent is worthy.

Here's a good argument made by karelpietertje.lackattack wrote:"Newbie Farming" is the technique of setting up as many games as possible (either by starting or joining them) with New Recruits to gain easy points by taking advantage of difficult game options and the fact the New Recruits are more likely to deadbeat. Some players have been farming extensively - even sending hundreds of PMs to the latest members to get them into their games.
This is a gross abuse of the game. It gives the New Recruit "victims" a poor first experience and reduces the chances of them sticking around. As farmers move up the scoreboard it also harms the competitive nature of Conquer Club - the scoreboard is meant to measure skill in the game, not "harvesting" techniques.
In accordance with the desires and feedback of the majority of the community, our rules and as a new leaf for 2009, it is our New Years resolution to make Newbie Farming forbidden. Members who continue this practice will receive point resets and then progressively longer website bans.
This does not mean you will get in trouble for joining a game here and there with many new recruits. We are only talking about the systematic targeting of new recruits.
These games were specifically created en masse to attract new recruits with no intention of them being filled by ranked players. It was systematic farming.karelpietertje wrote:Everybody knows you get only New Recruits if you pick 5 player games as a setting.
Then pick a map that is in the list of maps New Recruits can join, and make a whole bunch of them.
New Recruits can't see 6-8 man games, so in the Join A Game list, they will pretty soon show up at the first page, while at the same time, it's still on like page 30 for the rest of CC.
Doesn't matter. A majority of NR's that join this site, either A: Have no clue what they are doing or B: Leave the site. So in a majority of games, most New Recruits deadbeat out of it, leaving a very experienced player on a map going against 1 maybe 2 people who have 0 knowledge of the map/game. Heck, a lot of times all the NR's deadbeat out of the game.assassin07 wrote:Even if thay are whats the big deal they are still players and we all got to learn how to play i know i lost lots of games to higher ranks but got better i could understand if that is the only game the person plays but some people report peeps that play a few recruits here and there but also play other peeps but when you make a public game any one can join and thats it you cant chose who and if they join their fault its messed up he will get in trouble when he didnt make them join or even asked
Ya but thats not his fualtTheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't matter. A majority of NR's that join this site, either A: Have no clue what they are doing or B: Leave the site. So in a majority of games, most New Recruits deadbeat out of it, leaving a very experienced player on a map going against 1 maybe 2 people who have 0 knowledge of the map/game. Heck, a lot of times all the NR's deadbeat out of the game.assassin07 wrote:Even if thay are whats the big deal they are still players and we all got to learn how to play i know i lost lots of games to higher ranks but got better i could understand if that is the only game the person plays but some people report peeps that play a few recruits here and there but also play other peeps but when you make a public game any one can join and thats it you cant chose who and if they join their fault its messed up he will get in trouble when he didnt make them join or even asked
So you're saying it's fair that he rockets up the scoreboard all because all his opponents deadbeat?assassin07 wrote:Ya but thats not his fualtTheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't matter. A majority of NR's that join this site, either A: Have no clue what they are doing or B: Leave the site. So in a majority of games, most New Recruits deadbeat out of it, leaving a very experienced player on a map going against 1 maybe 2 people who have 0 knowledge of the map/game. Heck, a lot of times all the NR's deadbeat out of the game.assassin07 wrote:Even if thay are whats the big deal they are still players and we all got to learn how to play i know i lost lots of games to higher ranks but got better i could understand if that is the only game the person plays but some people report peeps that play a few recruits here and there but also play other peeps but when you make a public game any one can join and thats it you cant chose who and if they join their fault its messed up he will get in trouble when he didnt make them join or even asked
Dibbun wrote:Source: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... =1&t=73745
Here's a good argument made by karelpietertje.lackattack wrote:"Newbie Farming" is the technique of setting up as many games as possible (either by starting or joining them) with New Recruits to gain easy points by taking advantage of difficult game options and the fact the New Recruits are more likely to deadbeat. Some players have been farming extensively - even sending hundreds of PMs to the latest members to get them into their games.
This is a gross abuse of the game. It gives the New Recruit "victims" a poor first experience and reduces the chances of them sticking around. As farmers move up the scoreboard it also harms the competitive nature of Conquer Club - the scoreboard is meant to measure skill in the game, not "harvesting" techniques.
In accordance with the desires and feedback of the majority of the community, our rules and as a new leaf for 2009, it is our New Years resolution to make Newbie Farming forbidden. Members who continue this practice will receive point resets and then progressively longer website bans.
This does not mean you will get in trouble for joining a game here and there with many new recruits. We are only talking about the systematic targeting of new recruits.
Source: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 8#p2838768
These games were specifically created en masse to attract new recruits with no intention of them being filled by ranked players. It was systematic farming.karelpietertje wrote:Everybody knows you get only New Recruits if you pick 5 player games as a setting.
Then pick a map that is in the list of maps New Recruits can join, and make a whole bunch of them.
New Recruits can't see 6-8 man games, so in the Join A Game list, they will pretty soon show up at the first page, while at the same time, it's still on like page 30 for the rest of CC.
I have rocketed up the scoreboard because I am good at the setting that I like to play!! I have beated PLENTY of competition from brigs to privates to NR players that actually play and actually some have beaten me.TheForgivenOne wrote:So you're saying it's fair that he rockets up the scoreboard all because all his opponents deadbeat?assassin07 wrote:Ya but thats not his fualtTheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't matter. A majority of NR's that join this site, either A: Have no clue what they are doing or B: Leave the site. So in a majority of games, most New Recruits deadbeat out of it, leaving a very experienced player on a map going against 1 maybe 2 people who have 0 knowledge of the map/game. Heck, a lot of times all the NR's deadbeat out of the game.assassin07 wrote:Even if thay are whats the big deal they are still players and we all got to learn how to play i know i lost lots of games to higher ranks but got better i could understand if that is the only game the person plays but some people report peeps that play a few recruits here and there but also play other peeps but when you make a public game any one can join and thats it you cant chose who and if they join their fault its messed up he will get in trouble when he didnt make them join or even asked
It has been ruled the opposite way in the past...and i expect it to follow that past precedent here as wellassassin07 wrote:Ya but thats not his fualtTheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't matter. A majority of NR's that join this site, either A: Have no clue what they are doing or B: Leave the site. So in a majority of games, most New Recruits deadbeat out of it, leaving a very experienced player on a map going against 1 maybe 2 people who have 0 knowledge of the map/game. Heck, a lot of times all the NR's deadbeat out of the game.assassin07 wrote:Even if thay are whats the big deal they are still players and we all got to learn how to play i know i lost lots of games to higher ranks but got better i could understand if that is the only game the person plays but some people report peeps that play a few recruits here and there but also play other peeps but when you make a public game any one can join and thats it you cant chose who and if they join their fault its messed up he will get in trouble when he didnt make them join or even asked

Thank you Irish!IR1SH ACE wrote:I am still 100% behind u on this one ad10r3tr0, this is not an issue of farmin NR's
just check out ad10r3tr0 stats for 4 way Pelop War......53 wins from 69 completed games. a very nice 77% win ratio![]()
and is more than capable of winin evenin when non NR's join his games, some examples below
Game 7853661
Game 7944336
Game 9139113
Game 9264744
Game 9264749
as has been said a couple of times this is more an Issue of limitin further the amount of maps NR's can join,
Pelop War should not be accessible to NR's
just because sometimes you play games against good competition does not mean you are not farming...ask anyone about me when i had a score of 5000, they will say i farmed despite the fact that many of my games were clan games as wellad10r3tr0 wrote:Thank you Irish!IR1SH ACE wrote:I am still 100% behind u on this one ad10r3tr0, this is not an issue of farmin NR's
just check out ad10r3tr0 stats for 4 way Pelop War......53 wins from 69 completed games. a very nice 77% win ratio![]()
and is more than capable of winin evenin when non NR's join his games, some examples below
Game 7853661
Game 7944336
Game 9139113
Game 9264744
Game 9264749
as has been said a couple of times this is more an Issue of limitin further the amount of maps NR's can join,
Pelop War should not be accessible to NR's![]()
And here are some speed games... like I said, I don't really care who joins my games. I really enjoy the setting, the map, etc. of Pelo War..If it's really that big of a deal or you are really jealous I'm that good at this map or you're jealous of my score then keep reporting me.. Because I'm not going to stop playing the setting the I LOVE! If u want it stopped, ask the mods to limit PELO to only ranked players...
Game 9341977
Game 9273207
Game 9230814
Game 9230306
Game 9158101
Game 9152147
Game 9160706
Game 9154799
All against really good competition..all 1600 points+