Possible Secret Diplomacy:vrongone and ruthless1704[Cleared]

[Ghost20021]

Accused: vrongone and ruthless1704; maybe Tarfeathers (I cannot be certain)


The accused are suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Other: They both attacked me one right after the other (within minutes of each other) after nine rounds in which we had never even faced off. I didn't even know where they were (we were playing with fog of war) but they seemed to know exactly when, where, and how to attack me. They knew where the bulk of my forces were as well as my weak spots (even though they could not see them) and went straight for them. There is absolutely no chat log of an alliance. Only me and one other play have even used the chat log (a total of 3 post, 2 of which are mine). It was a little too well coordinated to have been a coincidence. The reason I think Tarfeathers might have been involved is because he/she knew where I was primarily located and roughly how well defended I was; the assault on me came just after I had eliminated him/her.



Game number: 10448391


Comments: I am reporting this because it just seems a little fishy that two players would simultaneously attack me with devastating effect when they shouldn't even have known where I was. They came at me prepared for a big fight, as if they knew what forces I had fortified in my territory.

[Ghost20021]

And I'd also like to point out that I called them out on the Secret Diplomacy in the chat box and neither of them have yet responded to the accusation (they have played since I've posted it). Most (innocent) people would strongly deny such a charge. Suspicious?

[Scorsair]

Accused: vrongone and ruthless1704; maybe Tarfeathers (I cannot be certain)


The accused are suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Other: They both attacked me one right after the other (within minutes of each other) after nine rounds in which we had never even faced off. I didn't even know where they were (we were playing with fog of war) but they seemed to know exactly when, where, and how to attack me. They knew where the bulk of my forces were as well as my weak spots (even though they could not see them) and went straight for them. There is absolutely no chat log of an alliance. Only me and one other play have even used the chat log (a total of 3 post, 2 of which are mine). It was a little too well coordinated to have been a coincidence. The reason I think Tarfeathers might have been involved is because he/she knew where I was primarily located and roughly how well defended I was; the assault on me came just after I had eliminated him/her.



Game number: Game 10448391


Comments: I am reporting this because it just seems a little fishy that two players would simultaneously attack me with devastating effect when they shouldn't even have known where I was. They came at me prepared for a big fight, as if they knew what forces I had fortified in my territory.

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[deathcomesrippin]

It is strange that vrong did not attack ruthless at any point during the time he held the whole british empire, he would have been able to see ruthless held the NA landing point and was running amok through ghost. The only other game they appeared in together was in November, and vrong took out ruthless as they started next to each other on the same map.
Probably no SD, just terrible playing by vrong.

[TheForgivenOne]

I'm looking through the log and i'm just not seeing it. I think when blue came out from Spain, he just took a random guess of which way to come out, and went North. Pink started his turn, he already held Holland, Portugal and Mapuche, now you claim he should have had "no way of knowing" where you were. Actually, if he read the log, he easily could have made a guess as to where you were. He could have read that blue had a European country, and went somewhere and hit you. Before blue went, he could have read you had 2 European countries/landings, and 2 Indian homelands. So that put you either in, A) France/Britain/ Inuit/comache/Aztec, or B) Britain Spain with either Comache/ Aztec/Inuit. Now, the turn before yellow already had all his troops on Mapuche 9, so it is clear he already planned on going through South Atlantic port, so the next turn he decided to go through. Now, he had a choice, to either try and eliminate blue, who had about 10 regions, or try to weaken someone that was already leading in the game, who was you, and you had 22 regions. I think yellow decided to deal with you, someone who was leading the game, the blue figured he didn't have enough troops to put enough of dent in yellow, so decided to build up a bit. Remember, even though it is Fog of War, people can easily read the log. I see no wrong doing from any of the accused. Cleared