Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw [Cleared]

killer1982 · Post by **killer1982** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:25 am

These are suspected Secret Alliance, possibly multiple accounts

Suspect users: Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw

Game numbers:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414067
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414020
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414021
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=413990

Comments: Visvivalaw always on opposing team of three others, playing to destruct his own team, handing victory to the three first mentioned.

Killer1982

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 am

he did not "destruct" his own team. He attacked his team, once, in those 4 games. I don't see how that is always out to destruct his own team.

killer1982 · Post by **killer1982** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:05 am

Iliad -
First of all, he did attack his own team several times, scroll through the game log and you'll see
Secondly, destroying does not necessarily imply attacking. Preventing a team member getting a continent by fortifying for no reason on the one country he holds is another way, especially in a no cards game.
Thirdly, it is rather suspicious that he signs up a few seconds after the three others, don't you think, ensuring that he will always be on the opposing team
Fourthly, if you look at the games that these three players are playing as a team, they often end up playing a novice player, who just signed up recently, and is somehow mysteriously a very bad team player
Fifthly, who are you?

Killer1982

killer1982 · Post by **killer1982** » Sun May 13, 2007 12:45 pm

who responds to these suspicions? the moderators, or how does it work?

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Sun May 13, 2007 4:25 pm

The mods would, but I think you're suspicions are unfounded. I really don't think you have the proof required.

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Sun May 13, 2007 4:43 pm

It is very possible that visvivalaw is killing his partners....its also possible that hes purposely doing it for the other team, but its also more than likely the other team doesnt know who hes is, want him to do it, or condone it in any way.

Ive had opponents go balistic on their partners before, but never knew them before that...it happens a lot.

Its even theoretically possible that hes helping one person on the team or that hes trying to frame the players on that team, which I actually think is just as likely...but the mods will look into it. But it does take time...but I would focus your energy on visivalaw...not the other three...im guessing they didnt even know he was in there.

DukeNukeEm · Post by **DukeNukeEm** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:00 pm

Right... but "destructive" or not, it IS suspicious that he's in so many games with the same three opponents

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:10 pm

four games with players that have played thousands...and four right in a row....im not saying it doesnt deserve any check...im just saying there is a 99 percent chance its a random event, and that i can just about guarantee the three of them arent about to blatently throw games with a fourth player, for the 40 points they will win from them....

they will be more insulted that you think they are that stupid, than that you think they may have cheated....

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:12 pm

I could join ten doubles games with an unsuspecting partner against a team I know right now, and throw every one of them...it would look like the other team was in on it, but it would just be me being a dirtbag....you probably dont want to call the other team cheaters in that case right?....thats all im saying here.

safariguy5 · Post by **safariguy5** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:22 pm

Fitz is right. If you look at how Johnnyrocket24 creates triples games, he always has a team join him. Often premium members will just join every game that he has open. I don't think this is very suspicious, and with Johnnyrocket24's rank, I don't think he would hurt himself by cheating.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:42 pm

Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw have been Cleared of multis.

JOHNNYROCKET24 · Post by **JOHNNYROCKET24** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:37 pm

ROFL

did you check all 3,000 + of my games or just the 4 in question. I think Killer was the player that was screaming during the game that his teamates were trying to win the game for me. Its just simply amazing how noobs join this site and abuse every resource available to show how stupid they really are. Someone please tell Killer that im sure being the number 1 player here that my acount has been checked most likely on a weekly basis. Did he think his post was really going to make the difference ?

killer1982 · Post by **killer1982** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:54 am

oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:03 am

killer1982 wrote:oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.

you should report if you think it's cheating but you should also think about whether attacking once the other in team in 4 games is cheating.

alex_white101 · Post by **alex_white101** » Mon May 21, 2007 5:31 am

killer1982 wrote:oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.