keith149 & Dutch [Cleared]

[Cofari]

These are suspected Multis (but possible secret alliance)

Suspect users: keith149 & Dutch

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=412641

Comments: In game 412641 we have gone 8 rounds with neither of them attacking each other, even though they are the only two with continents (mountains) and their continents are next door to each other.

They also play an ENORMOUS number of singles games together and all of them are where one starts the game and the other is the first player to join.

Then after my in-game post, they responded within minutes of each other.


Cofari

[Wisse]

they more seem like friends (secret alliances) than multi's

[Cofari]

bump

[Koesen]

They are friends, not multis. I know Dutch IRL. He lives in the Netherlands, while Keith lives in the UK (I believe, but that's easy to check).

[Dutch]

Hey people. I'm not going to bother and lash out because when I look back at the number of games I can see why people might suspect us.

Fact is, Keith and I joined a 4 or 6 person 2.1 game by chance many months ago (would show you the game number without this new system look) and while playing I learned that he had the same views as I did in regards to alliances.
To make it clear I don't like them. It's typical that when the first person grows everyone else goes after them anyway. Look at every game I played and pay attention to when someone offered me an alliance. I declined every one of them.
I play every man for himself.
We didn't play the others anymore but continued to play against each other or together (NOTE: only in doubles or triples matches).
I'm not going to go into detail as to why I felt I didn't have to attack him in whatever game you're talking about. Most of the time I do that is because I see the "My enemy's-enemy is my friend.... for now" view and don't need to make it official because there is no truce really. I just like to keep the balance.
And thanks Koesen, Keith does live in the UK somewhere from what I understand and he's great to play with. Funny and a good challenge. The main reason for the timing you mentioned is that we communicate fantastically with each other.
Not many doubles do that right anyway.
We send each other messages looking for games to play in but not during the game itself because like I said, I don't favour one player over the other. We're playing each other right now in a 2 persons game. So feel free to check it out. But I guess that would seem too convenient also just so I can make points right??? Pfff.... silly.

So there you go. No secret alliances and no double accounts.
I just wanted to set the record straight and if you doubt any of this please do us both a favour and add Keith and I to your ignore list.

I'll make sure to send this link to Keith as I'm sure he has something to say also. But it's not really me responding so quickly again!

Cheers Koesen.

[keith149]

ok, if there was a rule against playing with people i like rather than people who winge and moan because they are losing or go for alliances from the start then i am afraid i am guility as charged and im sorry however, i dont believe this is the case. Since i started this game i have not been acused of this and this surely stands in my favour. I assume cofrai thinks i have multi accounts, as dutch has said,please please put me on your ignore list,i am you as in my view your a bad looser, goodbye. Wisse i cant remember off hand but the same goes to you,there is no secret alliance,i see people on this sight all the time who are freinds outside the game and even live in the same country and i have never said or indeed even thought what you suggest.Me and dutch are freinds because of this site....end of (thanks koosen).
p.s if you guys are going to do this about everybody who plays together innocently you will lead sad, boring lives and not get to play much conquer club,its a shame

[Fireside Poet]

Suspects: keith149 & Dutch
Verdict: Cleared of multiple accounts