Windows 10

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:15 am

Has anyone else upgraded yet?

Trying to use the Photos app and it appears to be some beta POS rather than the proper app. No idea why.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:50 am

I just installed it, must say I really don't like the new windows edge.
As for the new taskbar, I guess it's ok, though I had gotten used to the windows 8 task page.
I hope there's a way to change the orange backgrounds though. All that orange is ugly as f*ck. Never mind got it, though somewhat buggy.

Army of GOD · Post by **Army of GOD** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:44 am

yeah, I don't want to deal with the headache of a new OS when Windows 7 is fine

KoolBak · Post by **KoolBak** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:23 am

I usually wait 6 months plus for them to work out the bugz....fairly important as my phone, tablet and 3 computers all are win 8 and sync in a cloudy manner...for my biz mostly...dont wanna fook that up...lol.

saxitoxin · Post by **saxitoxin** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:38 am

Army of GOD wrote:yeah, I don't want to deal with the headache of a new OS when Windows 7 is fine

Woodruff wrote:I do in fact still use Win95, because all of my preferred games do not seem to work very well (if at all) in the post-95 incarnations, sadly.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... +#p2677142

AoG and Woodruff should get together to split a bag of Werther's Originals.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:44 am

I'll be sticking with Windows 7 for another year or two probably. But my significant other will be getting a new laptop and will likely upgrade.

--Andy

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:41 pm

are you guys paying to be beta testers?

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:44 pm

It's basically just 7 with a visual upgrade and app buttons on the start menu, as far as I can tell.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:03 pm

mrswdk wrote:It's basically just 7 with a visual upgrade and app buttons on the start menu, as far as I can tell.

also a couple of new programs. Internet explorer upgraded to Microsoft Edge, and others.
And I seriously hope Windows update has been debugged, because that bugger was worthless on windows 8.

nietzsche wrote:are you guys paying to be beta testers?

They must be excluding Mexicans

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:14 pm

what do you mean?

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:03 pm

nietzsche wrote:what do you mean?

I find it odd that you didn't know of it. Are you using Linux or Apple?
All windows users should've been informed about a month ago, when a new icon appeared on your lower right taskbar. It's a free upgrade.

Post by **Dukasaur** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:44 pm

waauw wrote:
nietzsche wrote:what do you mean?
I find it odd that you didn't know of it. Are you using Linux or Apple?
All windows users should've been informed about a month ago, when a new icon appeared on your lower right taskbar. It's a free upgrade.

Nietzche uses Linux, that is true. However, I use Windows and I haven't been assailed by any notifications either.

KoolBak · Post by **KoolBak** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:05 pm

never noticed before that if you hover over that icon it says "Get Windows 10"...interesting

Metsfanmax · Post by **Metsfanmax** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:13 pm

Why the f*ck do you people pay for operating systems when there are free ones out there.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:17 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Why the f*ck do you people pay for operating systems when there are free ones out there.

A. All popular programs work on windows, same can't be said for other operating systems per sé.
B. It's easy to use

Post by **Dukasaur** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:34 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Why the f*ck do you people pay for operating systems when there are free ones out there.

The last time I paid for an operating system was DOS 6.0 back in '92 or whenever it was. Admittedly, it was a mistake, but I didn't know any better at the time.

I've been a Windows user as long as there's been Windows, but it's not by any deliberate choice, but by default. All my computers have been second-hand, and they all came with Windows installed. A couple of my Windows 98 computers I did upgrade to Vista, and my copy of Vista is store-bought, but it was bought for me by a rich relative who didn't ask for my input before buying it, so again it was just a default action for me rather than a deliberate choice.

I've never bought a computer new, but my understanding is that the situation there is much the same. Windows usually is pre-installed on new computers sold, so for most people it's just the path of least resistance. To not use Windows involves deliberately wiping the hard drive and installing Linux or whatever, so even if there's no cash outlay, there is a cost in time and effort, whereas sticking with Windows generally involves just opening the box and turning the computer on. About six years ago a friend of mine went to buy a new computer from Dell; they told him he would actually have to pay extra to get a computer without Windows, because their license requires them to put Windows on every new computer made. I did briefly consider buying a new computer last year and the situation is much the same. The store owner explained to me that the cost of Windows is built-in to the manufacturer's price, so it doesn't cost any more to get a computer with Windows than without.

If computers were made with blank hard drives and you had to install your own operating system, most people would of course choose to go with a free OS, that is why Microsoft goes right after the manufacturers and doesn't allow that to become an option.

So I guess the simple answer to your question is: most people don't pay for operating systems. I mean, yes the cost of Windows is built-in to the computer, but since you will pay it whether you use the Windows or not, you may as well use it and avoid the hassle of switching.

Metsfanmax · Post by **Metsfanmax** » Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:58 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why the f*ck do you people pay for operating systems when there are free ones out there.
The last time I paid for an operating system was DOS 6.0 back in '92 or whenever it was. Admittedly, it was a mistake, but I didn't know any better at the time.

I've been a Windows user as long as there's been Windows, but it's not by any deliberate choice, but by default. All my computers have been second-hand, and they all came with Windows installed. A couple of my Windows 98 computers I did upgrade to Vista, and my copy of Vista is store-bought, but it was bought for me by a rich relative who didn't ask for my input before buying it, so again it was just a default action for me rather than a deliberate choice.

I've never bought a computer new, but my understanding is that the situation there is much the same. Windows usually is pre-installed on new computers sold, so for most people it's just the path of least resistance. To not use Windows involves deliberately wiping the hard drive and installing Linux or whatever, so even if there's no cash outlay, there is a cost in time and effort, whereas sticking with Windows generally involves just opening the box and turning the computer on. About six years ago a friend of mine went to buy a new computer from Dell; they told him he would actually have to pay extra to get a computer without Windows, because their license requires them to put Windows on every new computer made. I did briefly consider buying a new computer last year and the situation is much the same. The store owner explained to me that the cost of Windows is built-in to the manufacturer's price, so it doesn't cost any more to get a computer with Windows than without.

If computers were made with blank hard drives and you had to install your own operating system, most people would of course choose to go with a free OS, that is why Microsoft goes right after the manufacturers and doesn't allow that to become an option.

So I guess the simple answer to your question is: most people don't pay for operating systems. I mean, yes the cost of Windows is built-in to the computer, but since you will pay it whether you use the Windows or not, you may as well use it and avoid the hassle of switching.

1) For laptops, there are manufacturers that don't force you to pay the Windows tax. Buy from them. Don't buy from Dell. Don't buy from Dell anyway, their hardware sucks.

2) For desktops, build the machine yourself. You'll learn more about how your computer works, and you won't be forced to pay the Windows tax.

Woodruff · Post by **Woodruff** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:44 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:yeah, I don't want to deal with the headache of a new OS when Windows 7 is fine

Woodruff wrote:I do in fact still use Win95, because all of my preferred games do not seem to work very well (if at all) in the post-95 incarnations, sadly.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... +#p2677142
AoG and Woodruff should get together to split a bag of Werther's Originals.

I LOVE Werther's Originals, so I will not be sharing.

And why did you change your avatar? I'm sad now...

I'm also using Windows 7, so I'm sad for that reason too...

Woodruff · Post by **Woodruff** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:45 am

waauw wrote:
nietzsche wrote:what do you mean?
I find it odd that you didn't know of it. Are you using Linux or Apple?
All windows users should've been informed about a month ago, when a new icon appeared on your lower right taskbar. It's a free upgrade.

Just because it's free doesn't make you any less of beta testers, however.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:52 am

Woodruff wrote:
waauw wrote:
nietzsche wrote:what do you mean?
I find it odd that you didn't know of it. Are you using Linux or Apple?
All windows users should've been informed about a month ago, when a new icon appeared on your lower right taskbar. It's a free upgrade.
Just because it's free doesn't make you any less of beta testers, however.

All Windows OS users are beta users, as long as you're not using pre-historic software anyway. They have been launching their products early for more than 10 years.

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:28 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Why the f*ck do you people pay for operating systems when there are free ones out there.
The last time I paid for an operating system was DOS 6.0 back in '92 or whenever it was. Admittedly, it was a mistake, but I didn't know any better at the time.

I've been a Windows user as long as there's been Windows, but it's not by any deliberate choice, but by default. All my computers have been second-hand, and they all came with Windows installed. A couple of my Windows 98 computers I did upgrade to Vista, and my copy of Vista is store-bought, but it was bought for me by a rich relative who didn't ask for my input before buying it, so again it was just a default action for me rather than a deliberate choice.

I've never bought a computer new, but my understanding is that the situation there is much the same. Windows usually is pre-installed on new computers sold, so for most people it's just the path of least resistance. To not use Windows involves deliberately wiping the hard drive and installing Linux or whatever, so even if there's no cash outlay, there is a cost in time and effort, whereas sticking with Windows generally involves just opening the box and turning the computer on. About six years ago a friend of mine went to buy a new computer from Dell; they told him he would actually have to pay extra to get a computer without Windows, because their license requires them to put Windows on every new computer made. I did briefly consider buying a new computer last year and the situation is much the same. The store owner explained to me that the cost of Windows is built-in to the manufacturer's price, so it doesn't cost any more to get a computer with Windows than without.

If computers were made with blank hard drives and you had to install your own operating system, most people would of course choose to go with a free OS, that is why Microsoft goes right after the manufacturers and doesn't allow that to become an option.

So I guess the simple answer to your question is: most people don't pay for operating systems. I mean, yes the cost of Windows is built-in to the computer, but since you will pay it whether you use the Windows or not, you may as well use it and avoid the hassle of switching.
1) For laptops, there are manufacturers that don't force you to pay the Windows tax. Buy from them. Don't buy from Dell. Don't buy from Dell anyway, their hardware sucks.

2) For desktops, build the machine yourself. You'll learn more about how your computer works, and you won't be forced to pay the Windows tax.

in the great majority of cases, the hardware is the same in most laptops. Say for instance you like X machine because you know it has a better wifi card, or a better ssd. Odds are, there are Dell options that have those or better hardware options.

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:31 pm

waauw wrote:
nietzsche wrote:what do you mean?
I find it odd that you didn't know of it. Are you using Linux or Apple?
All windows users should've been informed about a month ago, when a new icon appeared on your lower right taskbar. It's a free upgrade.

yes, as Dukasaur said i use linux.

even worse lol, if it was any good or complete, they wouldn't make it free.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:21 pm

Only a couple of days of Windows 10 and just had my first update on it already

New windows search is amazingly fast however.

rishaed · Post by **rishaed** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:17 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'll be sticking with Windows 7 for another year or two probably. But my significant other will be getting a new laptop and will likely upgradedowngrade.

--Andy

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:06 am

My start menu doesn't open properly.

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