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Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:00 pm
by Nobunaga
... It's coming back in 2010, thank you Mr. President, members of Congress.

... Any thoughts?

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Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:04 pm
by captain.crazy
Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:09 pm
by got tonkaed
Nobunaga wrote:... It's coming back in 2010, thank you Mr. President, members of Congress.

... Any thoughts?

...
Id rather have some taxes coming back around when we clearly are going to be spending bajillions than not have the taxes. If the tax cuts in general hadnt expired in 2010, i think we would have really handcuffed anything good (assuming you believe its good) that this administration could have put together.

Unless you subscribe to the argument that debt is no big deal, which it might not be.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:25 am
by MeDeFe
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:57 am
by Zeppflyer
While the way that this robs people of their final decision on how to spend their own money, it is the damage that it does to small, family-owned businesses that is the real killer. The tax makes it prohibitively expensive to pass the company on from one generation to another.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:07 am
by salr15
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
Don't worry, I plan on killing you in 2009.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:36 am
by thegreekdog
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.
I suspect MeDeFe is being sarcastic, but as I've said before - 100% estate tax; down with the aristocrats.

Unfortunately, there is no one who will ever be elected to office that will impose a comprehensive estate tax, because even the vast majority of Democrats, party for the little people, are wealthy and would like to pass their wealth on to their children.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:58 am
by captain.crazy
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.
No one paid my way through school. I did that on my own. Turns our, it was all a waste anyway. I use none of the principles that were taught me in school, as they pertain to my profession. Yes, honest work is the only sound way to make your living in this world.

Also, people shouldn't generalize either... All capitalists are not bad, just some... likewise not all socialists are good... just a few!

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:08 am
by captain.crazy
salr15 wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
Don't worry, I plan on killing you in 2009.
Excellent! But I betcha I get you first! I am samurai, and its just plain ole hard to get the drop on samurai.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:23 am
by MeDeFe
captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.
No one paid my way through school. I did that on my own. Turns our, it was all a waste anyway. I use none of the principles that were taught me in school, as they pertain to my profession. Yes, honest work is the only sound way to make your living in this world.

Also, people shouldn't generalize either... All capitalists are not bad, just some... likewise not all socialists are good... just a few!
I practically used your own words c.c, in one of the other threads you proposed that people should take their wealth into the grave and teach their kids to get by on their own instead of depending on their parents rather than bequeathing anything. Now you say you want to leave your worldly possessions to your family. Make up your mind and then live what you preach.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:32 am
by thegreekdog
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.
No one paid my way through school. I did that on my own. Turns our, it was all a waste anyway. I use none of the principles that were taught me in school, as they pertain to my profession. Yes, honest work is the only sound way to make your living in this world.

Also, people shouldn't generalize either... All capitalists are not bad, just some... likewise not all socialists are good... just a few!
I practically used your own words c.c, in one of the other threads you proposed that people should take their wealth into the grave and teach their kids to get by on their own instead of depending on their parents rather than bequeathing anything. Now you say you want to leave your worldly possessions to your family. Make up your mind and then live what you preach.
That wasn't the captain, that was me.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:30 am
by MeDeFe
thegreekdog wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:Yeah, it sucks!

If I die and want to leave my family all of my worldly possessions, the leaches of society have no right to take them from my family. Pray for the pendulum of Liberty to return to the right side of its arch... criminals have stolen this country, and now they are after the wallets of he hard working!
You should have taught your family to be good, honest capitalists who get rich by their own hard, honest work and don't have to depend on you to see them through college and keep them fed.
No one paid my way through school. I did that on my own. Turns our, it was all a waste anyway. I use none of the principles that were taught me in school, as they pertain to my profession. Yes, honest work is the only sound way to make your living in this world.

Also, people shouldn't generalize either... All capitalists are not bad, just some... likewise not all socialists are good... just a few!
I practically used your own words c.c, in one of the other threads you proposed that people should take their wealth into the grave and teach their kids to get by on their own instead of depending on their parents rather than bequeathing anything. Now you say you want to leave your worldly possessions to your family. Make up your mind and then live what you preach.
That wasn't the captain, that was me.
Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:41 am
by thegreekdog
MeDeFe wrote:Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.
Well, hopefully I won't be a new poster for long. Although, at our current rate, I will continue to be a new poster. I doubt I will ever reach that awe-inspiring plateau of 4000+ posts. I guess it's common for new posters to be the subject of ridicule, though I fail to see a correlation between a new poster and a stupid post.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:22 am
by MeDeFe
thegreekdog wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.
Well, hopefully I won't be a new poster for long. Although, at our current rate, I will continue to be a new poster. I doubt I will ever reach that awe-inspiring plateau of 4000+ posts. I guess it's common for new posters to be the subject of ridicule, though I fail to see a correlation between a new poster and a stupid post.
It's a rite of passage.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:55 am
by thegreekdog
MeDeFe wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.
Well, hopefully I won't be a new poster for long. Although, at our current rate, I will continue to be a new poster. I doubt I will ever reach that awe-inspiring plateau of 4000+ posts. I guess it's common for new posters to be the subject of ridicule, though I fail to see a correlation between a new poster and a stupid post.
It's a rite of passage.
I see... carry on then.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:28 am
by Juan_Bottom
thegreekdog wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.
Well, hopefully I won't be a new poster for long. Although, at our current rate, I will continue to be a new poster. I doubt I will ever reach that awe-inspiring plateau of 4000+ posts. I guess it's common for new posters to be the subject of ridicule, though I fail to see a correlation between a new poster and a stupid post.
It's a rite of passage.
I see... carry on then.
It's true. The hazing sucks. But you have an advantage on me... my first post was agreeing that the Amero was a real possablity in the future. I was supporting this by a video I had seen of Vicente Fox saying that it had been in the works for years. Only a little later then did I find out that Vicente Fox was confused by the question, and was talking about a South American Union, not a North American one. Which of course, changed my view completely. But still made me look like a crazy nutter to everyone else.
But you'd be suprised how quickly your post count can increase. Though posts in off topics don't count.

Also, shut up stupid n00b. You're not as good as us.
MeDeFe wrote:Really? Damn, it gets confusing when several new posters join at the same time.
Yeah, whats up with that? I think I have been witness to something special. DaGip, Cola, Mustard, Suggs... they are all gone.... and now we have the new crop.... You would think there would be all sorts of new and exciting topics being posted too.

Re: Estate "Death" Tax

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:31 am
by MeDeFe
I'm allowed to be senile, I've been here since month 3 so I'm a real oldtimer.