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Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:07 pm
by Snorri1234
STUPID!
No but seriously, let's argue this shit. I wanna know from some actual libertarians (not librarians) why their entire worldview works in practice. I know the theory and all that, but theories are just theories and I'm more of a debater on shit which is true. I'm not interested in small issues since I have already discussed the everliving f*ck out of all issues which every moron who discovers Teh Interwebs wants to talk about. So let's talk about bigger stuff like global political views.
I'm gonna start threads every week (or whenever I feel like it) to discuss things to bring some quality back into this forum. Ofcourse, me being me these threads will also be full of flames and posts which tell other people that they are stupid. But at least it's better than the shit we're talking about now. (GABONX HAS ANOTHER OBSCURE STORY WHICH HE THINKS PROVES HIM RIGHT BUT ACTUALLY DOESN'T!)
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:09 pm
by Snorri1234
Also I wanna know the deal with airline-food, but that's for another thread.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:54 pm
by SultanOfSurreal
Snorri1234 wrote:Also I wanna know the deal with airline-food, but that's for another thread.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:02 pm
by mpjh
I'm game, but I am not a libertarian, at least not in the Ron Paul sense (I start my social security this December). So I will wait for someone with first hand commitment to speak. But it might be worth the effort to check a thesaurus for alternatives to "stupid."
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:31 pm
by InkL0sed
Well, if libertarianism = stupid, doesn't that mean it's a synonym?
So he could name it "Libertarianism is libertarianism", which is of course a tautology.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:41 pm
by captain.crazy
Snorri1234 wrote:STUPID!
No but seriously, let's argue this shit. I wanna know from some actual libertarians (not librarians) why their entire worldview works in practice. I know the theory and all that, but theories are just theories and I'm more of a debater on shit which is true. I'm not interested in small issues since I have already discussed the everliving f*ck out of all issues which every moron who discovers Teh Interwebs wants to talk about. So let's talk about bigger stuff like global political views.
I'm gonna start threads every week (or whenever I feel like it) to discuss things to bring some quality back into this forum. Ofcourse, me being me these threads will also be full of flames and posts which tell other people that they are stupid. But at least it's better than the shit we're talking about now. (GABONX HAS ANOTHER OBSCURE STORY WHICH HE THINKS PROVES HIM RIGHT BUT ACTUALLY DOESN'T!)
hmmm... Saturday night... Ah HA! Someone is drunk again!
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:44 pm
by hecter
InkL0sed wrote:Well, if libertarianism = stupid, doesn't that mean it's a synonym?
So he could name it "Libertarianism is libertarianism", which is of course a tautology.
Unless it's intransitive, in which case, while libertarianism = stupid, stupid =/= libertarianism.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:47 pm
by InkL0sed
hecter wrote:InkL0sed wrote:Well, if libertarianism = stupid, doesn't that mean it's a synonym?
So he could name it "Libertarianism is libertarianism", which is of course a tautology.
Unless it's intransitive, in which case, while libertarianism = stupid, stupid =/= libertarianism.
It'd still come up in a thesaurus... (and I think you mean !=
)
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:23 pm
by PLAYER57832
Snorri1234 wrote:Also I wanna know the deal with airline-food, but that's for another thread.
Pack your own.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:29 pm
by mpjh
Uh, that is the libertarian policy on guns.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:39 pm
by PLAYER57832
mpjh wrote:Uh, that is the libertarian policy on guns.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:47 pm
by captain.crazy
Libertarianism rules. Live and let live... and don't tread on me. We believe that if two adults want to do something together, they should be able to do it. That includes everything from ass sex, to an open duel. Libertarians believe that America should stop trying to be an empire, because its not right and empires all fall anyway. We Believe that you can put what ever you want to in your body and that you don't have to be politically correct to be fair. We believe that you are free to believe what ever you want to with regards to religion, and we think that everyone should be responsible for their own security (a.k.a. arm yourself. A cop can only arrest someone after a crime has been committed, they cant prevent shit.)
I think that about covers it, though I am probably forgetting something.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:52 pm
by danfrank
just to comment on the last post.. The U.S. is not an empire.. We take the lead in global issues because no one else will. And most importantly no one else has the resources to do it.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:55 pm
by mpjh
Uhuh, and that is why Iraq, Afghanistan, Peru, Venesuela, etc. etc. are all asking us to stay out of their business.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:57 pm
by danfrank
mpjh wrote:Uhuh, and that is why Iraq, Afghanistan, Peru, Venesuela, etc. etc. are all asking us to stay out of their business.
well your from california.. That explains your post.. The hollywood state.. Where are the californians tea parties?
Its also a hypocritical statement because the countries you list have oprressive governments and therefore the people have no liberties... . Get a mind of your own and do some research instead of being a follower..
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:23 pm
by hecter
Only Iraq, maybe Afghanistan could be vaguely considered that... Both Peru and Venezuela are Republics, just like the USA. They hold democratic elections and all that kinda stuff. They are sovereign nations that really didn't do anything to anybody. DanFrank, you're so stupid it hurts.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:31 pm
by captain.crazy
danfrank wrote:mpjh wrote:Uhuh, and that is why Iraq, Afghanistan, Peru, Venesuela, etc. etc. are all asking us to stay out of their business.
well your from california.. That explains your post.. The hollywood state.. Ass backwards .. Feed and medicate all the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS into bankruptcy.. Where are the californians tea parties?
Its also a hypocritical statement because the countries you list have oprressive governments and therefore the people have no liberties... ASSHOLE.. Get a mind of your own and do some research instead of being a follower you SMUCK...
Is it the blue or red kool aid that you fancy? America is way too aggressive in "protecting" its interests abroad. The only war that we should fight is the war that is in defense of our land, not offensive wars like we have in Iraq.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:31 pm
by john9blue
InkL0sed wrote:Well, if libertarianism = stupid, doesn't that mean it's a synonym?
So he could name it "Libertarianism is libertarianism", which is of course a tautology.
It's a metaphor which would lose its meaning by making such a substitution. You can't use the point to make the point.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:02 pm
by mpjh
Danfrank, you do realize that the libertarian position is in opposition to our army being in those countries, don't you? Ron Paul is anti-war.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:06 pm
by captain.crazy
Actually, Libertarians used to be called Liberals. That was untill the fucking communists came along and ass raped the term. Now "Liberal" actually means, "give-me-a-big-ass-controlling-government-so-I-don't-have-to-have-freedom-or-responsibility"
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:16 pm
by b.k. barunt
danfrank wrote:mpjh wrote:Uhuh, and that is why Iraq, Afghanistan, Peru, Venesuela, etc. etc. are all asking us to stay out of their business.
well your from california.. That explains your post.. The hollywood state.. Ass backwards .. Feed and medicate all the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS into bankruptcy.. Where are the californians tea parties?
Its also a hypocritical statement because the countries you list have oprressive governments and therefore the people have no liberties... ASSHOLE.. Get a mind of your own and do some research instead of being a follower you SMUCK...
Wtf is a "SMUCK"? Sounds fooking ominous. I find your spelling of oppressive absolutely fascinating - do you have some kind of bizarre form of dyslexia? Is that you in the car?
Honibaz
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:17 pm
by mpjh
By the way, Danfrank, I am in New Mexico; right next to Fort Bliss, White Sands Missile Proving Grounds, and the NASA listening station. People here don't seem to mind my politics.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:36 pm
by jonesthecurl
Oh dear oh dear.
I think Snorri actually wanted to talk.
Never mind, carry on.
Me right, you wrong, blah blah
(comment not aimed at previous post - just the entire thread.)
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:47 pm
by mpjh
No, me right, you wrong.
Re: Libertarianism is stupid.
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:16 am
by Martin Ronne
hecter wrote:Only Iraq, maybe Afghanistan could be vaguely considered that... Both Peru and Venezuela are Republics, just like the USA. They hold democratic elections and all that kinda stuff. They are sovereign nations that really didn't do anything to anybody. DanFrank, you're so stupid it hurts.
Oh yeah.... Venezuela has a great government. I'm sure that Hugo Chavez would step down honorably if someone else were elected.
Gringo no go Citgo, Hugo loco.