Has any opinion ever been proven to be incorrect? Ever?

Yes, you moron. Does anyone still believe that the Earth is flat? Or that taking a bath makes you get sick? Or that the moon is made of cheese?

Are those opinions? You moron?

EDIT: Was it morally right for you to call me a moron?

Yes ...

Well, now you've gone and made quite a leap. For one thing, moral absolutists don't even agree on how one should arrive at the conclusion of whether something is right or wrong. The two main modern philosophies are utilitarianism and deontology, with wildly different ideas. In utilitarianism ...

You can continue to ignore my asking of a logical proof saying "rape is wrong".

Right above. I only type so fast.

Has any opinion ever been proven to be incorrect? Ever?

Yes, you moron. Does anyone still believe that the Earth is flat? Or that taking a bath makes you get sick? Or that the ...

First, LOGICALLY PROVE that rape is wrong, like you allude towards in your rant.

It is morally wrong to directly cause physical harm to another person, unless in the form of self defense or mutual hostility.

I defy you to find a situation where this doesn't hold true.

You remind me of that ...

1) You didn't answer my question.
2) Two different people can easily look at the same situation and see it differently and yet still perfectly logically, based on their distinctly personal experiences.

Sorry...trying. Kept getting interrupted by some flaming guy...

I think that in that given ...

I must be one of your moral relativists, because I'm not sure what you're getting at here, to be honest. I very much believe in situational ethics, in which the idea that "this is always right" or "this is always wrong" are reasonably rare. Is that what you consider to be moral relativism?

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I personally believe that moral relativism is the underlying problem in many of our country's issues. I believe that many of our worst policies and decisions are made by moral relativists, and that their philosophy has become so prevalent as to make intelligent debate almost impossible.

Moral ...

And no, that's not what the article says. It says that these wages will be deducted from future payments. Since you have said multiple times that you believe those awards will be incredibly large, it's safe to assume that they will still receive something.

As an aside and this is not a reply to ...

No, I made a goof because I have been distracted by a series of tornado warnings.. the only reason I was sitting here by the computer.

I know they have been paid. Some, NOT all, have gotten some settlement money from BP. This article is saying that they may not get future monies if they got both ...

I will say it again...the fishermen now have an award that is to be paid to them. This is a done deal.

Aside from that, these fishermen would LIKE to be able to help with the cleanup process, but if they do so, they are required to do so without any pay for having done so (as they would be ...

IF they get more money, then there is a reason for it, as in these fishermen have lost more than just their incomes. That is why I brought up the bit about a lost loved one, a house, etc.. but you decided to dismiss any such reference. Apparently to you, an occupation is just about money. Sad ...

I don't honestly believe the NAACP is that powerful, no. I think most media would be more than happy to do so if they thought it was newsworthy.

That would be an interesting debate. It seems like accusing the NAACP of wrongdoing leads to accusations of racism toward the accusing party. Fox is ...

It's not at all that I find Fox News unacceptable...though I'll admit I view them with the same jaundiced view I give to most other media...it's that just a statement by them making a claim isn't enough. It wouldn't be enough for you if I did that (and rightly so), so why do they get that honor ...

Well, when you make statements about fishermen becoming millionaires because they were "in the wrong place at the wrong time".. its rather revealing.

And no to the first part. I already said that IF the reason for not paying the fishermen immediately was because it was just a small part of the ...

Hopefully another news organization that you will find acceptable did a story on the original statement, before it was changed. We shall see...

I posted the Kansas City Star in the post above yours. They were probably one of the main on-site news outlets actually in attendance since the ...

Newsflash Nightstrike LIBERALS don't particularly care for Obama, either.

That said, political gamesmanship of this type have been around for a lot longer than this previous election.. and MOST DEFINITELY are not liberal monopolies!
(hint: Richard Nixon )

Fallacy: Tu Quoque

This is getting ...

How do you believe that Fox has provided any sort of proof? They CLAIMED that's what the original statement said. Do you seriously equate that with proof?

I was trying to figure out where your disagreement arose. I now know that it stems from the fact that you don't believe that FOX has proof ...

I think there's a big difference between bias and lying

There certainly is. However, we can see in these forums where the lines can be muddied.

For example, the Doc accused me earlier of only posting about the fallacious comments of those whom I oppose. In a way, he was right. I missed the ...

I can only post so often on intellectual dishonesty, guys. Some of us have to work :(

I'm not really clear, though, Doc, on why you think Night Strike's being dishonest by posting the sentence from the article that supports his point. I read the article, and it doesn't look as though any of it ...

First off, I'd like to say that personally I think it's obvious that Amendments change over time (just look at the 18th and the 21st )...

... so to use it in your 3rd mark is kind of silly

Until they're changed, it's illegal to violate them.

I will go to my main point though...

in your 4th ...

*Facepalm*
Side note: M - A - U - G - E - N - A
It's hard to spell, I know.
Copy and paste is hard too.

Sorry, Maugena. I mean no disrespect, I just can't spell.

Slightly less expensive products? It's probably more than slightly less, for one, and possibly a bit better in terms of quality ...

Yes, but #1 those "extra monies" are NOT what is being debated here, only whether they can get their rightful wages and their lost income for their lost occupation both.

And.. sorry, but your idea of "just compensation" and WHY it is applied as it is is just wrong.

I suppose it's too much to ...

I can only post so often on intellectual dishonesty, guys. Some of us have to work :(

I'm not really clear, though, Doc, on why you think Night Strike's being dishonest by posting the sentence from the article that supports his point. I read the article, and it doesn't look as though any of it ...

Also, it's important not to confuse enforcing fair speech with limiting free speech. Nobody is arguing that people shouldn't be free to say exactly what they want, only that they ought to be forced to do so in an honest and accountable fashion.

I agree with you that this would be ideal, but my ...

I was simply stating how your point could have been more accurate. That you believe I'm a liberal leads me to believe that you are a blinder-wearing ultra-conservative. How sad for you.

I don't know anything about you. All I know is that your argument earlier was fallacious. I'm not passing ...