DEAR MOD, CAN YOU LOCK THIS PLEASE?

DaGip · Post by **DaGip** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:25 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:Norse was the first person ever to speak to me on this forum. Happy times...

Cheers!
Norse turned me into a Real Football fan!

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:28 pm

suggs wrote:Shit. If it was, I am more of a Turd than previously suspected.

I think everyones pretty much figured out the exact level of your turdness.

suggs · Post by **suggs** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:37 pm

darvlay wrote:
suggs wrote:Shit. If it was, I am more of a Turd than previously suspected.
Did you ever figure out what sexual harassment means?

It means lawyers can retire before 40.

suggs · Post by **suggs** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:39 pm

Frigidus wrote:
suggs wrote:Shit. If it was, I am more of a Turd than previously suspected.
I think everyones pretty much figured out the exact level of your turdness.

Level 2.3? Yep, thought so. (out of 3, natch).
Thanks for your magnanimty.
You're a sport!

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:05 pm

I will hop on this train and ride it.

Norse is a one of the major reasons I come to CC every day. Even if I don't agree with his bigoted opinions. I very much support his right to express those same opinions.

I realize that this website has no guaranteed free speech rules, but temp-banning is much more effective than perma-bans at controlling this type of behavior.

Commute him to a temp-ban at least for breaking the rules. By cutting him out completely he will eventually stop coming to CC and it would be a loss to the entire community, not just the chaps.

Sir. Ricco · Post by **Sir. Ricco** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:32 pm

Man, lot of poeple want him back. I never knew he was that liked.

Heimdall · Post by **Heimdall** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:34 pm

Ban everyone that voted yes

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:37 pm

Harijan wrote: temp-banning is much more effective than perma-bans at controlling this type of behavior.

Really? Because Norse didn't think so. Do you realize how many temp bans he previously had? Did that alter his behavior in the slightest? Nope. He knew where the line was, he chose to cross it... repeatedly. End of story.

Sir. Ricco · Post by **Sir. Ricco** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:43 pm

Harijan wrote: temp-banning is much more effective than perma-bans at controlling this type of behavior.

temp-banning is not more effective than perma-bans. With perma-bans you don't have to deal with the fool again. Norse got what he desevered.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm

He's just a bit eccentric, he's a voice without limits really, there are plenty of people here whose opinions are limited by the rules (some people join and get forumbanned instantly because they express them, others dont and are allowed to stay), so by that rule if norse can promise not to be such an idiot in that he thinks that blacks are inferior in cranial capacity, he will be welcomed by me in open arms.

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm

<Yawn>

2006 - Dougy
2007 - Xtry
2008 - Norsy

And so fast....it's still January!

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:57 pm

Backglass wrote:<Yawn>

2006 - Dougy

Whose this guy?

cena-rules · Post by **cena-rules** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:59 pm

dugcarr

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:04 pm

unriggable wrote:
Backglass wrote:<Yawn>

2006 - Dougy
Whose this guy?

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... ile&u=2066

It's like history repeating itself. Annually.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:06 pm

Backglass wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Backglass wrote:<Yawn>

2006 - Dougy
Whose this guy?
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... ile&u=2066

It's like history repeating itself. Annually.

Yeah, I've heard of him.

wrestler1ump · Post by **wrestler1ump** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:50 pm

Norse and I would have made the perfect team.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:51 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:Norse and I would have made the perfect team.

Get out of here. NOW.

wrestler1ump · Post by **wrestler1ump** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:52 pm

wicked wrote:Did they change the i before e rule?

mighty nice of whump to pay you homage like that Ank. He must really have a hardon for you. you lucky pug you.

Oh yes I do have a hard-on for Narc. That's soooooooo funny. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha..... Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

F1fth · Post by **F1fth** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:10 pm

DaGip wrote:
Serbia wrote:
DaGip wrote:Join the boycott if you want, doesn't pay well...it might even save you $25 dollars this year. I don't plan on boycotting, but someone needs to say it at least.
Toothless Tiger. Fits though with supporting Ron Paul and dumping him as the primary season gets underway.
I am embracing the NWO. I lost hope. I plan on paying for war forever and ever and ever. I plan to live in the desert and grow corn, whilst the rest of you are turned into radioactive charcoal and fight with one another over who is the most stupid.

FREE NORSE, YOU LOSERS!~

Way ahead of you. Fixed this siggy up last night.

Harijan · Post by **Harijan** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:17 pm

wicked wrote: Really? Because Norse didn't think so. Do you realize how many temp bans he previously had? Did that alter his behavior in the slightest? Nope. He knew where the line was, he chose to cross it... repeatedly. End of story.

Let me explain here. Norse obviously had a very clear picture of where the line was, and he continually crossed it, and got banned again and again for his posts.

I have a very clear picture of where the line is and I choose not to cross it (on purpose) because I don't want a temp ban.

Without Norse, I don't know how far is too far. Everyone else who likes to push the envelope is in the same boat.

Sure, you have to ban him repeatedly, but it was so regular that it was never a big deal for anyone.

Norse was like an early warning system for the rest of us who have low moral scruples and don't get offended by simple words.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:20 pm

I might actually join the movement, sure, Norse was a right-wing bastard with his ideas on race stuck in the early 19th century, but somehow he managed to be likable. Sure, I hated his guts after 2 days but even I came to like him. The two posts linked to earlier where he responded in those discussions were nothing, if you get banned for that you might as well ban Napoelon for not being able to construct anything even remotely resembling an argument, the atheists for offending the christians and the christians for offending the atheists. Then see what you're left with.

And if a gamechat is going to be used as evidence, then don't delete it. Really how stupid can a person be...

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:22 pm

HungrySomali wrote:I've always thought Norse was a pretty decent dude. That game log was out of line though. I dont think he was racist, just trying to get other people riled up.

You see HS, the CC guidelines say that joking and poking fun at people is OK, so long as you're winding up people who hold political views opposite to those of the moderating staff. Poking fun at their preferred views (or using rhetorical devices such as reductio ad absurdum, and comic lampoonery) is decried as 'bigotry' or 'something-ism'... for which they ban you. These bans get longer and longer each time (regardless of the gravity of what you actually did to deserve the ban), until eventually they use this bizarre and arbitrary policy to kick you from the forums forever.

Got it now? Does it sound fair?

It doesn't? Well what a suprise... perhaps that's because it's a primitive, arbitrary, and completely ridiculous system.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:36 pm

The truth is that his 'line breaches' were all fairly minor, and most of the alleged 'breaches' weren't deserving of sanctions.

The true problem here is that Norse's pollitical views were at odds with the moderating staff of this site. When I'm feeling argumentative I give Right-Wingers easily as hard a time as Norse used to give Left-Wingers (with the same jibing and harassing) but it's regarded as ok to bash that sub-set of ideologies because they're not the commonly held beliefs of the CC moderating staff.

The truth is that if Norse had behaved in the same way, but argued from a liberal perspective, then he wouldn't have been banned half as much, and consequentially would still be here today.

Furthermore, I fail to see why perma-banning is necessary in this instance. Sure, temporary banning didn't change Norse's behaviour, but is it really necessary to remove him from this community in order to allow it to operate? Could Norse not simply have been ejected for a long while for each infraction? He was not like Xtratabasco who deliberately attempted to interfere with the day to day functioning of the forum, he was simply a poster who occasionally stepped over a (somewhat arbitrarily defined) line.

Does perma-banning Norse really serve this community's best interests? Is his absence required to allow this place to run smoothly? Or is this in fact a sanction that is disproportionate to what Norse actually did here, and the result of a lazy and unecessary moderating staff decision?

suggs · Post by **suggs** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:43 pm

No. No. Yes. Yes.
Its ridiculous, but this lot will never re-instate him.

sam_levi_11 · Post by **sam_levi_11** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:49 pm

they are the modern day stalin

DEAR MOD, CAN YOU LOCK THIS PLEASE?

should Norsebe allowed back