How do you think the foundrry system could be improved?

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:55 am

Yes but you're missing the bigger picture - testing isn't just about Maps...

It's about game play aspects too...

C.

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:13 pm

DiM wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
DiM wrote:free donuts might help.

oh and cigarettes and pepsi.
DiM...you don't smoke so you? the pepsi and donuts i can understand, but surely you don't smoke?
sorry but i do. but i stopped smoking pot and drinking alcohol a long time ago. cigarettes still plague me though. but i switched to lights instead of regulars

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cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:16 pm

edbeard wrote: 1. cairnswk has asked for this, and I think it is smart. First post being displayed on every page. Not sure if this is even possible.

Sure it's possible...if i can program a shopping cart system in perl/html, that can be done in PhP.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:30 pm

yeti_c wrote:Yes but you're missing the bigger picture - testing isn't just about Maps...

It's about game play aspects too...

C.

ugh?? so??

let's take for example the bob testing. start a private game load the new bob and play that game.

same would work for maps and gameplay
set-up a private game load the map xml file and play. the difference is that lack is needed to upload the files on the server.

let's say a final forged map is in need of some testing.

lack uploads the files but doesn't make them available for the masses. he just sets up a private game and invites a few people. they play the game and if all is good then the files are made public. plain and simple. same thing i assume happened for the speed games and the 8p games. lack made the changes in the code but didn't make them available for the masses.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:39 pm

Actually - I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked...

The very act of making the map available privately is probably the same as publicly...

i.e. he updates the maps.xml - and the server reads from it - and adds the map itself...

That way there is no maintenance burden... it's just done...

He would need to write a layer of abstraction in to the maps to allow them to be shown on the mapfinder screen...

All we know is that it's a big job - that's what the big man has said... neither I nor you know how big a job - I suspect I have *more of an idea* than you - but if the big man says it's big - it's big.

Now stop arguing about it.

C.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:42 pm

yeti_c wrote:Actually - I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked...

The very act of making the map available privately is probably the same as publicly...

i.e. he updates the maps.xml - and the server reads from it - and adds the map itself...

That way there is no maintenance burden... it's just done...

He would need to write a layer of abstraction in to the maps to allow them to be shown on the mapfinder screen...

All we know is that it's a big job - that's what the big man has said... neither I nor you know how big a job - I suspect I have *more of an idea* than you - but if the big man says it's big - it's big.

Now stop arguing about it.

C.

i got into a nice debate on another part of the forum and i'm still pumped and excited. i want to argue.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:02 pm

gimil wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:-redo the hole system just say

idea
gameplay
graphics
final touches
THats how he system is already run . . .

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:40 pm

gimil wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:-redo the hole system just say

idea
gameplay
graphics
final touches
THats how he system is already run . . .

no now you have

idea
foundry
final forge

which when you come here you have no clue whaqt they are

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:06 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:
gimil wrote:
Lone.prophet wrote:-redo the hole system just say

idea
gameplay
graphics
final touches
THats how he system is already run . . .
no now you have

idea
foundry
final forge

which when you come here you have no clue whaqt they are

Final forge is where the final touches is suppose to happen. Obviosly no one knows what the system is or how it works when there new, but thats what hte how to make a map thread is for. Its most likely that if someone is new to anything there not going to know what certains things are

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:36 am

yaya your right if you are conservative there wont be much progresion

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:14 am

Lone.prophet wrote:yaya your right if you are conservative there wont be much progresion

Im not being conservative. . . im not resistant to change by any means. But i wont condon to changing a WORKING system if its not needed

THe current system works fine as it is. C.A's time could be spent changing less impressive aspects of the foundry such as a lack of feedback, lack of test center, outdated developmental atlas, updateing how to make a map thread etc