Ya Twice, MEPierce [Blocked from playing together]

stlcard1521 · Post by **stlcard1521** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:49 pm

Possible Alliance

Ya Twice and MEPierce

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=105860

Ta twice didn't make a single attack on MEPierce the entire game... even though yellow was by far the biggest threat the entire game. I posed little threat to blue in rounds 5 and 6 while yellow had control of Ireland and Scotland (combined 10 army/turn bonus- and both were poorly defended and could have easily been broken up) and I only had control of Land's end (2 army bonus) yet blue went out of his way to attack me and break up my continent even though it was pretty illogical to do so. Also, if you do a game search these 2 guys have played many games together, probably are friends. I cant say for sure there was foul play but it looks very suspicous to me, im sorry to both of those guys if they see this and im wrong.

stlcard1521

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:37 pm

Wow 17 Games together and MEPierce won 9 single 2 doubles
Ya Twice 17 games 1 single win 2 doubles

Gee nothing funny going on here!

stlcard1521 · Post by **stlcard1521** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:25 pm

LetGodSortThem wrote:Wow 17 Games together and MEPierce won 9 single 2 doubles
Ya Twice 17 games 1 single win 2 doubles

Gee nothing funny going on here!

MEPierce is a good player and im sure he could win many of those games himself, i dont know if this is cheating (coordinated and intentional) though or if it is just a couple of friends who play together, and his friend extended him a little bit of courteousy in my game without intent to play unfairly

Harry Krishna · Post by **Harry Krishna** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:43 pm

hmmm 17 games together, 9 wins for tha dude, man i dunno dont think ill play with them i have to agree s/b cheked out

Ya Twice · Post by **Ya Twice** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:56 pm

Yes, We know each other and we have played from the same computer before, but never in a game that wasn't doubles.

I didn't realize that I didn't attack him in that game until I went back and checked the log, I was just trying to get a foothold to counter, but we three were squabbling over the lower territories while he was building up in the north.

I have NEVER extended any courtesy to anyone. He plays aggressively, I don't, I try to get a country and horde up waiting for the cards to be worth the turn in.

If it looks like we are collaborating, I won't play with him anymore, but I assure you we are not.

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:11 pm

Ya Twice wrote:Yes, We know each other and we have played from the same computer before, but never in a game that wasn't doubles.

Same computer I sure hope not any sinlges games, anyway the Admin can check that out(AND SHOULD).

johnnyrotten · Post by **johnnyrotten** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:28 pm

LetGodSortThem wrote:
Ya Twice wrote:Yes, We know each other and we have played from the same computer before, but never in a game that wasn't doubles.
Same computer I sure hope not any sinlges games, anyway the Admin can check that out(AND SHOULD).

Well said.

stlcard1521 · Post by **stlcard1521** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:01 pm

Ya Twice, most of the games you have played with him are singles games youve only played a couple doubles games. And i looked back through the game logs and i noticed you dont attack him very often (though it is difficult to tell what the actual game play is like, maybe you werent for good reason). And like i said maybe youre just leaving each other alone subconciously and never realized it before i said something.

Again, I'm sorry if you guys havent been cheating and I'm falsely accusing you, but it some of the moves seemed a little suspisious to me. If you werent helping each other illegally, i dont want to discourage you guys from playing together, it was a good game im cool with it and most of the other people here probably are too as long as youre both playing fairly.

Ya Twice · Post by **Ya Twice** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:41 pm

Thanks for the clarification, but I think it would be best, considering what's been said, if He and I don't play in singles games together anymore.

I can't very well break RL contact with him since we live in the same apartment complex and work for the same company. SO unless it's a team game, I'm thinking no more singles together.

I think a point everyone is missing though is that I suck at Risk. (My 60ish games with less than 1k points should show that.)

MEPierce · Post by **MEPierce** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:52 pm

Ya Twice wrote: I think a point everyone is missing though is that I suck at Risk.

True, True, True. You need to get a strategy.

I can't say if he's "extended me courtesy" or not, because I think he's only beat me like Twice, Ya.

BUT, I've never coordinated with Ya Twice other than the 1 or 2 doubles games we've played. And I only let him use my computer to make his moves at work when we weren't in any games together.

but I guess the solution is probably best, because there will always be a question if both of us don't loose the game from this point on.

stlcard1521 · Post by **stlcard1521** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:41 pm

well, if that's what you guys think is best. like i said earlier, i didnt think it was neccesarily blatant cheating, but i know how it is when you play with friends- you feel bad hurting your friend so you might subconciously leave them alone in a free for all game even though it isnt in your own best interest. i really dont want to discourage you guys from playing together if you werent trying to do anything malicious, so sorry i brought it up. you can still play doubles i guess, and i wouldnt mind you playing free for all games. i just felt like some actions from ya twice pretty much handed you the game, then i looked you two up and saw youd played many games together and got suspicious. sorry again, good game to you both

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:39 pm

naktay01 · Post by **naktay01** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:26 pm

I have played in 3 games with these guys. Can't say that there multi's cause I did not suspect it. I did lose all three. well mepierce, ya twice and montecristo. all seemed like normal games except I lost, lol
Enter Game
105630 Standard Freestyle Classic
Escalating Unlimited naktay01 ( 83-0 )
Ya Twice ( 5-0 )
MEPierce ( 7-0 )

Enter Game
105200 Terminator Freestyle Classic
Escalating Unlimited naktay01 ( 83-0 )
Ya Twice ( 5-0 )
professorkimball ( 22-3 )
MonteCristo ( 1-0 )

Enter Game
100613 Standard Freestyle Classic
Escalating Unlimited naktay01 ( 83-0 )
Ya Twice ( 5-0 )
MonteCristo ( 1-0 )
MEPierce

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:38 pm

banter

naktay01 · Post by **naktay01** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:28 pm

not the first time. won't be the last. lol

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:31 pm

lol...I as well

Ya Twice · Post by **Ya Twice** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:40 pm

So you are saying that anyone who takes there turn immediately after the round begins is in a secret alliance with anyone else who does the same?

Why offer the notifier if using it gets you accused of cheating?

Ya Twice · Post by **Ya Twice** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:40 pm

See Above /\\

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:32 pm

place some unwitty banter here

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:33 pm

the nine wins is going to be hard to get around....really hard...

RexRamp · Post by **RexRamp** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:36 am

AAFitz wrote:the nine wins is going to be hard to get around....really hard...

then some other players has some expl. to do also, becouse there are some players that beat the hell out of me each time we play. So I guess it's at least a couple of players that have 5-0 against me

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:21 am

oh believe me i have people who have beat me more than that...and if the guy wins in the other games than so be it...i still say keep an open mind here...ya twice is defending himself quite passionately, here and i want to believe him...the mods will decide

stlcard1521 · Post by **stlcard1521** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:20 pm

yeah i tend to agree with AAFitz, i dont think Ya, Pierce, or the other guy in question were conciously cheating or conspiring. i think they may have unconciously been favoring each other, but i no longer think they were intentionally cheating

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:04 pm

stlcard1521 wrote:yeah i tend to agree with AAFitz, i dont think Ya, Pierce, or the other guy in question were conciously cheating or conspiring. i think they may have unconciously been favoring each other, but i no longer think they were intentionally cheating

Well said I agree....

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:40 pm

I've BLOCKED Ya Twice and MEPierce from playing together.

--Andy

Ya Twice, MEPierce [Blocked from playing together]

Ya Twice, MEPierce [Blocked from playing together]

Wow 17 Games together

Re: Wow 17 Games together

Yes, We know each other

Re: Yes, We know each other

Re: Yes, We know each other

9 wins

Re: 9 wins

ok