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Somehow, though, I doubt that China and Russia would be on board with that solution.THE ARMY wrote:I say we just send a couple 2,000lb. bunker buster bombs into his residence, that should take care of the problem
yeah...i don't want to kill the population...just the leadership. I thought about nuking the entire nation...but I'm sure the people are good....only the crazies at the top need to die.captain.crazy wrote:Somehow, though, I doubt that China and Russia would be on board with that solution.THE ARMY wrote:I say we just send a couple 2,000lb. bunker buster bombs into his residence, that should take care of the problem

bedub1 wrote:yeah...i don't want to kill the population...just the leadership. I thought about nuking the entire nation...but I'm sure the people are good....only the crazies at the top need to die.captain.crazy wrote:Somehow, though, I doubt that China and Russia would be on board with that solution.THE ARMY wrote:I say we just send a couple 2,000lb. bunker buster bombs into his residence, that should take care of the problem
AceGeneral*** wrote:They don't want a nuclear OR conventional war, South Korea will own them and they'll have the UN on them, and now they don't have support from Russia and China they have no hope of winning a war, probably for self defense, I mean Isreal has nukes, France has nukes, Britain has nukes, USA has nukes, Russia has nukes and China has nukes
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34256.pdfEvilPurpleMonkey wrote:Damn, I wish we had an SDI system now...
Anyways, I do not think that Kim Jong-il has any nuclear weapons set to a dead man's switch, as he wants his son to inherit his "throne".
Betrayer of the Revolution *grumble grumble*
BTW, does anyone here know how many nuclear weapons the DPRK currently has? And how many have the capability to cross the Pacific?
In all, estimates of North Korea’s separated plutonium range between 30 and 50 kg, with an approximate 5 to 6 kg of this figure having been used for the October 2006 test. This amounts to enough plutonium for approximately five to eight nuclear weapons, assuming 6 kg per weapon. After the test, North Korean could possess plutonium for four to seven nuclear weapons. An unclassified intelligence report to Congress says that “prior to the test North Korea could have produced up to 50 kg of plutonium, enough for at least a half dozen nuclear weapons” and points out that additional plutonium is in the fuel of the Yongbyon reactor. Additional questions arise in determining how much plutonium North Korea has produced since 2002 when the IAEA monitors were kicked out of the country and the seals were broken at Yongbyon. A South Korean Defense Ministry white paper from December 2006 estimated that North Korea had made 30 kg of weapons-grade plutonium in the previous three years, potentially enough for five nuclear bombs. It also concurred with U.S. estimates that North Korea’s total stockpile of weapons-grade plutonium was 50 kg
Although former Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Director Lowell Jacoby told the Senate Armed Services Committee in April 2005 that North Korea had the capability to arm a missile with a nuclear device, Pentagon officials later backtracked from that assessment. A DNI report to Congress says that “North Korea has short and medium range missiles that could be fitted with nuclear weapons, but we do not know whether it has in fact done so.” North Korea has several hundred short-range Scud-class and medium range No Dong-class ballistic missiles, and is developing an intermediate range ballistic missile. The Taepo-Dong-2 that was tested unsuccessfully in July 2006 would be able to reach the continental United States if it becomes operational. DNI assessed in 2008 that the Taepo-Dong-2 has the potential capability to deliver a nuclear weapon-sized payload to the United States, but that absent successful testing the likelihood of this is low. A launch of a Taepo-Dong 2 missile as part of a failed satellite launch in April 2009 traveled further than earlier unsuccessful launches but still did not achieve a complete test.

Yes but hasn't their leader gone crazy?AceGeneral*** wrote:They don't want a nuclear OR conventional war, South Korea will own them and they'll have the UN on them, and now they don't have support from Russia and China they have no hope of winning a war, probably for self defense, I mean Isreal has nukes, France has nukes, Britain has nukes, USA has nukes, Russia has nukes and China has nukes
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
xelabale wrote:There was a time when he wasn't crazy?

I forgot some countries, but you get the pictureben79 wrote:AceGeneral*** wrote:They don't want a nuclear OR conventional war, South Korea will own them and they'll have the UN on them, and now they don't have support from Russia and China they have no hope of winning a war, probably for self defense, I mean Isreal has nukes, France has nukes, Britain has nukes, USA has nukes, Russia has nukes and China has nukes
india and pakistan too ... do not forget that ... and for that a big thanks to the united staters president of the 50's![]()
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Nice thought, and i wish you were right. Unfortunately you're not. They hate the South Koreans as traitors to the revolution, and they hate us with a fooking passion. I've been 10 feet from the wire in Pan Mun Jon, and have never seen sheer ripyourfuckingheadoff hatred like i saw in in the eyes of those North Korean soldiers. You do not want to have a war with these maniacs. It's not just Kim, the whole fooking bunch of them are crazy as shithouse rats, and they'd love to have the chance to get their hands on some Americans in battle.FrancisBoyle wrote:North Korea is the naughty kid who uses temper tantrums and poor behavior to get what it wants. The most recent president in South Korea has cut of food rationing and monetary donations until they improve upon their many human rights issues. These outbursts are simply North Korea's lame attempt to extort food, money, and other resources from South Korea, China, and Russia.
I think you've been watching too many Stanley Kubrik movies. Do you have the 1000 yard stare BK? Not all Germans are nazis, not all English have bad teeth (though admittedly a lot do), not all Americans are fat stupid people (though...), not all North Koreans are "crazy as shithouse rats". Relax, BK, relax. You're safe now.b.k. barunt wrote:Nice thought, and i wish you were right. Unfortunately you're not. They hate the South Koreans as traitors to the revolution, and they hate us with a fooking passion. I've been 10 feet from the wire in Pan Mun Jon, and have never seen sheer ripyourfuckingheadoff hatred like i saw in in the eyes of those North Korean soldiers. You do not want to have a war with these maniacs. It's not just Kim, the whole fooking bunch of them are crazy as shithouse rats, and they'd love to have the chance to get their hands on some Americans in battle.FrancisBoyle wrote:North Korea is the naughty kid who uses temper tantrums and poor behavior to get what it wants. The most recent president in South Korea has cut of food rationing and monetary donations until they improve upon their many human rights issues. These outbursts are simply North Korea's lame attempt to extort food, money, and other resources from South Korea, China, and Russia.
"Temper tantrums"? "Naughty kid"? Heh heh, more like the real bad ass kid who was already in the state reformatory at 12 for armed robbery or attempted murder. I've seen them up close and personal, and you don't want to f*ck with them - they won't back off. This aint no "temper tantrum", it's the real fooking thing.
Honibaz
The fact that they don't like each other has nothing to do with it. North Korea has no food and very little oil. Up until this most recent election of Lee Myung Bak in South Korea, there has a been a great deal of aid given to the country. The fact that this aid has stopped has put the North in a desperate position and they are not happy about it. The threaten to attack the South happens about once every six months, and it is all part of their agenda. So you've been to the DMZ once. Try living a 40 minute drive.b.k. barunt wrote:Nice thought, and i wish you were right. Unfortunately you're not. They hate the South Koreans as traitors to the revolution, and they hate us with a fooking passion. I've been 10 feet from the wire in Pan Mun Jon, and have never seen sheer ripyourfuckingheadoff hatred like i saw in in the eyes of those North Korean soldiers. You do not want to have a war with these maniacs. It's not just Kim, the whole fooking bunch of them are crazy as shithouse rats, and they'd love to have the chance to get their hands on some Americans in battle.FrancisBoyle wrote:North Korea is the naughty kid who uses temper tantrums and poor behavior to get what it wants. The most recent president in South Korea has cut of food rationing and monetary donations until they improve upon their many human rights issues. These outbursts are simply North Korea's lame attempt to extort food, money, and other resources from South Korea, China, and Russia.
"Temper tantrums"? "Naughty kid"? Heh heh, more like the real bad ass kid who was already in the state reformatory at 12 for armed robbery or attempted murder. I've seen them up close and personal, and you don't want to f*ck with them - they won't back off. This aint no "temper tantrum", it's the real fooking thing.
Honibaz