JJM wrote:I know my facts very well and I know that Andrew Jackson was a complete liar.
Not a complete liar. He promised to shut down the National Bank I believe he followed through with that promise. He swore to make the British pay for what they did to his family I believe he followed through on that too. He promised the first to start shooting if his troops tried to go back to Tennessee and I'm damn sure he would have followed through iwth that too.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
I fell out of my chair laughing at this one!
EVERY President breaks promises!
Who told you bull. I can't stand people who think that all politicians are lies. There are many members of Congress of course you are going to have a few unpleasant people but I believe that the large majority of them our honest people.
Not everyone's a liar but plenty lie to get what they think needs to be done (and sometimes jsut what they want done to help themselves) across.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
autoload wrote: To just make it an open and shut situation is really not fair. Take some real American History courses from some different college professors and get a broader idea of what really was going on in that time period. Historians differ on how to view ole twenty dolla just like we do, but all of them understand what was going on. Get a better idea of all the nuances before you make a 2nd grade opinion like you are doing. I wish target man our history buff was here to add his input.
Strike will agree that I am too lazy to type out my whole argument of twenty dolla...
I know what I am talking about. Yes at that time just about everyone had a grudge towards indians but honesty was also considered very important at that time. Much more than it is now.
Yes and they believed all men were created equal just not the "property" they had picking cotton in their fields.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
2dimes wrote:Dear Kiss haters ; I'm interested in your multiplatinum recordings. Plox link them here.
Multiplatinum records doesn't justify a band being good. Finding popularity by means of making bad music that just so happens to fill the pleasure center of the people who just want to be entertained and don't care about any real depth to the music in anyway doesn't make them a good band.
if it does than we should be handing out grammies to Miley Cyrus and company.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
autoload wrote: To just make it an open and shut situation is really not fair. Take some real American History courses from some different college professors and get a broader idea of what really was going on in that time period. Historians differ on how to view ole twenty dolla just like we do, but all of them understand what was going on. Get a better idea of all the nuances before you make a 2nd grade opinion like you are doing. I wish target man our history buff was here to add his input.
Strike will agree that I am too lazy to type out my whole argument of twenty dolla...
I know what I am talking about. Yes at that time just about everyone had a grudge towards indians but honesty was also considered very important at that time. Much more than it is now.
I'm not getting into an argument with a mental midget. People much more educated than us can not even agree on this so I'm not expecting any different here.
What do historians know that we don't. If they think good of Jackson they sure must not know there facts.
Probably the fact that it's their job to learn as much about historic facts and the scenarios around these facts as possible..
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
autoload wrote:I'm not getting into an argument with a mental midget. People much more educated than us can not even agree on this so I'm not expecting any different here.
Oh, really? Come back and discuss this like a man.
Regardless of what you think about Gene & Paul or even Ace. If you don't like the songs you don't like rock music in my opinion.
Wow. Really? So I don't like Kiss does that mean I don't like AC/DC? The Who? Led Zep? The Rolling Stones? Or does it mean that these bands and many others don't count as rock music?
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:
You should at least try Metroid Prime 3 it's better than I give it credit for. Who's your favorite character in Brawl? I still use Capt. Falcon even though he's not nearly as dominating as he was in melee.
My fav. characters in SSBB:
1: Lucario (big shocker, right?)
2: Captain Falcon
3: Samus
4: Snake
5: Wolf
my list:
1 Capt. Falcon
2 Ike
3 Samus
4 Falco
5 Wolf
I kinda figured wolf would be #1 on your list.
I'm a fighter I go by the one I feel is best in a fight.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
autoload wrote: To just make it an open and shut situation is really not fair. Take some real American History courses from some different college professors and get a broader idea of what really was going on in that time period. Historians differ on how to view ole twenty dolla just like we do, but all of them understand what was going on. Get a better idea of all the nuances before you make a 2nd grade opinion like you are doing. I wish target man our history buff was here to add his input.
Strike will agree that I am too lazy to type out my whole argument of twenty dolla...
I know what I am talking about. Yes at that time just about everyone had a grudge towards indians but honesty was also considered very important at that time. Much more than it is now.
I'm not getting into an argument with a mental midget. People much more educated than us can not even agree on this so I'm not expecting any different here.
What do historians know that we don't. If they think good of Jackson they sure must not know there facts.
JJM, historians are taught to see history in "gray" rather then "black and white" as many historical events had good and bad effects, as well as the people who caused those events. Just like Andrew Jackson. Yes, he did betray his native allies and force them out of their homes and historians do not excuse that, but there is always a flip side to something or someone and Jackson is no exception. He is the reason that the British were driven off for the final time in the War of 1812 (the Battle of New Orleans), and also made it possible for the common man (oh, like you and me and most everyone else) to vote, rather then being limited to white, christian, landowners. Historians see the give AND the take, not just one over the other. Historians make it their life's work to understand history for a reason, so that pseudo historians and alternate historians are not taken seriously by most people.
JJM wrote: What information do they have access to that we don't? none. We have the same resources as them.
They wrote those resources. You write in here.
A historian studies something by reading books about it and then they right there own book. We read it but just don't write a book about it.
Dude, you are clueless. How do you think they get the info to write those books? A book just doesn't magically appear for them to research from. Historians have to spend thousands of hours poring over obscure papers and diaries or anything to piece together what was happening in whatever time period they are studying. Get a clue.
strike wolf wrote:
You should at least try Metroid Prime 3 it's better than I give it credit for. Who's your favorite character in Brawl? I still use Capt. Falcon even though he's not nearly as dominating as he was in melee.
My fav. characters in SSBB:
1: Lucario (big shocker, right?)
2: Captain Falcon
3: Samus
4: Snake
5: Wolf
2dimes wrote:Dear Kiss haters ; I'm interested in your multiplatinum recordings. Plox link them here.
Multiplatinum records doesn't justify a band being good. Finding popularity by means of making bad music that just so happens to fill the pleasure center of the people who just want to be entertained and don't care about any real depth to the music in anyway doesn't make them a good band.
if it does than we should be handing out grammies to Miley Cyrus and company.
Thank god that isn't happening. I wish Milli Vanilli was real though...