republicans @ Lincoln Memorial

[Night Strike]

Lemme get the article again.
"(The activists)... had the desire to step up and aim their middle finger towards the Democrats, who are like their Democrat president Obama suffering of growing impopularity."
"'Restore honor', that was the official slogan of the army of countryside-conservatives that came to the American capital this saturday. It was code language, to claim back the land that, according to them, was stolen from them two years ago."
Now, I'm just translating, not making this up. I admit I'm reading a left-wing newspaper here, but that doesn't change the facts. Looking at that second quote, I might as well have been right about those 10-year old problems.

Actually, it probably does change the facts, especially when you won't even cite the article you're referencing. In MSNBC's coverage before the start of the event, they stated as fact that Michelle Bachman and Dick Armey would both be speaking at the event, but neither of them were ever even on the program. Saying the people in attendance were there to flip off Democrats is blatant editorial work, not the reporting of facts.

There was already a thread for this topic (the 8-28 thread).

No, I believe these republicans are hypocrits because they protest against the ones responsible for destroying their country's reputation... I think I don't need to tell you where I'm going at now.


Also, I got a newspaper article on the tea party right here. Wanna hear quotes? I'll have to translate them for you, but I'm sure you'll know what they mean...

" Beck and Palin both spoke from the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, the same spot where Martin Luther King delivered his famous speech in 1963 (I have a dream). "

" A student from Florida had a shirt with the text 'only date republicans'. Someone else was wearing a shirt with a smiling George Bush, with the text 'so, you guys missing me yet?' "

Naaaah, that meeting had totally nothing to do with republican political ideology.

So no one can give a speech at the Lincoln Memorial? Nevermind if you actually heard what they said since you're so wrapped up in where they spoke. Beck had a huge point when he answered about the date of King's speech: the date of the speech is inconsequential when compared to the subject of the speech. Furthermore, there were frequent references to MLK, and the loudest applause of the day was when his niece spoke. Bunch of racists right there.

So because people exercise their free speech rights by wearing Republican shirts, the entire rally was Republican? Must be similar to how one racist sign makes everyone at Tea Party Rallies racist. Where did any of the official speakers or signs endorse Republicans? Since when does Beck actually support Republicans (he's a libertarian)?

Reading where I reply to might help you with answering these questions.

"Reading where I reply to", what does that even mean? That you're ignoring my points completely?

[saxitoxin]

"Reading where I reply to", what does that even mean?

It's maddening trying to understand them ... don't bother!

Steenkolenengels:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... +#p2732122

[saxitoxin]

train of thoughts has outsmarted me.

This is one is too precious. Going in my Steenkolenengels file.

(BTW - I'm not American.)

[aage]

Funny saxi how you think you actually offend us when mocking our government and royal family.

The Dutcher Royal Family didn't rape young Indonesian boys. That was the Dutcher colonialists. Average people. Perhaps your grandfather?

Perhaps. Who will know? And of those, who will care? I mean, I would also care less if my grandfather or even my father was involved in KKK. Beating mod edit kids to death is nothing compared to those indonesians...

@ Night Strike
I would gladly cite the articles, but you wouldn't understand crap of it. Be happy.
As for reading what I reply to, it means you go back to page one, find the post you were quoting and then scroll upwards to find whatever post I am referring to.

@Saxi
I might have deserved you making fun of my country after I did the same to you. Still, ever heard any other european (except the british ofc) speak fluent english?
As for the quote: you're welcome
(BTW - it's seriously fun to pretend you are, so please keep doing so, thanks )

[saxitoxin]

n***er kids

reported

I might have deserved you making fun of my country after I did the same to you.

What does "I might have deserved you" mean?

Still, ever heard any other european (except the british ofc) speak fluent english?

quite a few

[aage]

I might have deserved "you making fun of my country" after I did the same to you.

What does "I might have deserved you" mean?

I made it easier for you

[bedub1]

WASHINGTON -- Tens of thousands of people rallied at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial Saturday at an event organized by the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck, who called for a religious rebirth in America at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have A Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Some police sources agreed with the half-million figure.

So 300,000 to 500,000 people show up for something the mainstream media doesn't like, so they claim that "tens of thousands" showed up. When it was really "Hundreds of thousands". They just like to diminish and belittle their opponents as much as they can. Why can't they just report the facts instead of making it all so biased? And who cares what day it was? I'm sure you can't have a rally on any day of the year because something important has already happened on every single day. So no more rallies!

[jimboston]

As a Republican, I do not see Beck as a representative of the party. The guy is a wack-job. Only once have I watched it (not willingly, but I really could not do much else at the time).

Though I'm quite sure there are people who claim to be representatives of other parties that the party's more sane members want nohting to do with.

As a human being (albeit a conservative leaning libertarian minded one who is sympathetic with the main agenda of the "tea party") I do not consider Glen Beck to representative of me.

[Night Strike]

WASHINGTON -- Tens of thousands of people rallied at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial Saturday at an event organized by the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck, who called for a religious rebirth in America at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have A Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Some police sources agreed with the half-million figure.

So 300,000 to 500,000 people show up for something the mainstream media doesn't like, so they claim that "tens of thousands" showed up. When it was really "Hundreds of thousands". They just like to diminish and belittle their opponents as much as they can. Why can't they just report the facts instead of making it all so biased? And who cares what day it was? I'm sure you can't have a rally on any day of the year because something important has already happened on every single day. So no more rallies!

What's sad is that they make these outrageous lies that are easily exposed by comparing pictures from the 8-28 event to past rallies at the same location.

[Night Strike]

@ Night Strike
I would gladly cite the articles, but you wouldn't understand crap of it. Be happy.
As for reading what I reply to, it means you go back to page one, find the post you were quoting and then scroll upwards to find whatever post I am referring to.

I wouldn't understand it because it's poorly written and full of made-up crap? Or because it's so intellectually above anyone who is a conservative that it has to be dumbed down to our level only by you?

It doesn't really matter what your original reply was referring to as you made a claim in that reply then failed to answer my refutation. Is saxi the only one allowed to refute your post since you were only replying to him?

[Phatscotty]

So I suppose you guys have heard all about it on Fox...

It's not really the demonstration itself that bothers me as I already knew republicans were hypocrits, but it's seriously sad that Beck a) claims that this is not a political demonstration and b) claims that he didn't consider that this is the MLK-day and place.

what is really sad is saying it was a political demonstration when there was 0 politics demonstrated...

I saw democrat and independent speakers as well

I guess that is what happens when you don't know what you are talking about

[Phatscotty]

No, I believe these republicans are hypocrits because they protest against the ones responsible for destroying their country's reputation... I think I don't need to tell you where I'm going at now.


Also, I got a newspaper article on the tea party right here. Wanna hear quotes? I'll have to translate them for you, but I'm sure you'll know what they mean...

" Beck and Palin both spoke from the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, the same spot where Martin Luther King delivered his famous speech in 1963 (I have a dream). "

" A student from Florida had a shirt with the text 'only date republicans'. Someone else was wearing a shirt with a smiling George Bush, with the text 'so, you guys missing me yet?' "

Naaaah, that meeting had totally nothing to do with republican political ideology.

okay, Palin and Beck spoke, at the lincoln memorial, which is the same spot MLK.....I think everybody figured that out

one persons t-shirt in a crowd of 500,000 dictates what the rally was about?

holy smokes man

[Phatscotty]

Someone wearing a t-shirt in a crowd means ... oh I can't even be bothered to finish typing this sentence! ACK, gang!

This may just be a problem you're having expressing yourself in English, which seems to be a difficulty with many Dutchers for which, if I misunderstand as a result of that, I apologize. However, here's a 101 I wrote on the "Tea Party" factions so you can present a better-educated worldview:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... n#p2549763

Please don't mock the general level of English amongst Dutch people... I'm afraid I'll score higher than the American average on English tests...
Nonetheles it's funny how you refer a Dutch guy like me, who, as you say, has no real understanding of English, to a topic full of seriously difficult words. It must be entertaining, I suppose.

Still, thanks for the link. I do happen to find a lot of references to the Republican party in your lecture on Tea Parties though, and since the tone of the event we're discussing is leaning towards being Republican, I don't think it is a misunderstanding to believe this is a Republican event.

dude, the tea party is an economic movement. the push is for more fiscal responsibility. That will never fit into the democrats platform, and only people like you think that automatically means therefore it must be republican.

A good majority of tea party people lean to the right. some of them lean left. Even more of them dislikes the republican party.

Given that you and I both dislike the republican party, why are you so up in arms that the Tea Party is changing the republicans???

[Borderdawg]

aage, you really are an idiot, aren't you? enjoy your well deserved vacation from forums.

Mods, please ban this racist jackass ASAP! I mean really, "beating n****r kids to death"?? That is just too damn much!

[Phatscotty]

I Hate America So Much my Clogs Are About to Catch on Fire!

Wrong. I just hate people thinking that the 2-year old government is responsible for 10-year old problems.

10 years? things did not start going to shit until 2006. 2000-2006 was not an orgy, but it was 6 years of job growth, stock market rally, home ownership (hood and bad)

I admit I'm not a Bush fan, but that doesn't mean I hate all republicans.

it sure sounds like it

I guess it'll just be a difference between norms and values, seeing as you don't seem to be bothered with people blaming Obama for what Bush messed up. Apperantly it's part of your culture to demand of Democrats to click their fingers and make it all right again in two years. I can't blame you for it.

Hardly anyone is blaming Obama for the shit economy. Everyone blames Obama for making a shit economy worse...

[SgtMadDog]

train of thoughts has outsmarted me.

This is one is too precious. Going in my Steenkolenengels file.

(BTW - I'm not American.)

Illegal Immigrant?

[heavycola]

Beck had a huge point when he answered about the date of King's speech: the date of the speech is inconsequential when compared to the subject of the speech.

Correction: Glenn Beck does not make 'huge points'. He says whatever the morons that buy his schtick want to hear. I'm sure i watched Katie Couric, of all people, asking Beck what he had meant when he said Obama hates 'white culture' , and he couldn't answer, because he had never actually thought about what he'd said beyond 'this may well sell more copies of my books'. Can't blame the dude - the guy is making a shitload of money and influence by mining American stupidity. Fair play.

[Snorri1234]

WASHINGTON -- Tens of thousands of people rallied at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial Saturday at an event organized by the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck, who called for a religious rebirth in America at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have A Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Some police sources agreed with the half-million figure.

So 300,000 to 500,000 people show up for something the mainstream media doesn't like, so they claim that "tens of thousands" showed up. When it was really "Hundreds of thousands". They just like to diminish and belittle their opponents as much as they can. Why can't they just report the facts instead of making it all so biased? And who cares what day it was? I'm sure you can't have a rally on any day of the year because something important has already happened on every single day. So no more rallies!

What's sad is that they make these outrageous lies that are easily exposed by comparing pictures from the 8-28 event to past rallies at the same location.

Because surely conservatives would never lie about how many attented their event.



I am rolling my eyes so hard right now.

[Night Strike]

WASHINGTON -- Tens of thousands of people rallied at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial Saturday at an event organized by the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck, who called for a religious rebirth in America at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have A Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Some police sources agreed with the half-million figure.

So 300,000 to 500,000 people show up for something the mainstream media doesn't like, so they claim that "tens of thousands" showed up. When it was really "Hundreds of thousands". They just like to diminish and belittle their opponents as much as they can. Why can't they just report the facts instead of making it all so biased? And who cares what day it was? I'm sure you can't have a rally on any day of the year because something important has already happened on every single day. So no more rallies!

What's sad is that they make these outrageous lies that are easily exposed by comparing pictures from the 8-28 event to past rallies at the same location.

Because surely conservatives would never lie about how many attented their event.



I am rolling my eyes so hard right now.

So the liberal media is always factual, especially when it's about something they disagree with? Compare the pictures of the 8-28 rally to both the numbers the media is reporting as well as pictures of past events and the numbers associated with them and then tell me where the facts lie. By the way, don't let your eyes roll right on out into the glass of koolaid.

[Phatscotty]

There is a set number of how many people fill up the reflecting pool, as well as the capacity of the north field. These numbers are objective and politics can not change them.

pool 200k
field 250k
overflow is open to speculation. Less than 450,000 is not.

Overflow was hitting with a least a couple thousand, but I have no way to know or sure

[heavycola]

WASHINGTON -- Tens of thousands of people rallied at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial Saturday at an event organized by the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck, who called for a religious rebirth in America at the site of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have A Dream" speech 47 years ago to the day.

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Some police sources agreed with the half-million figure.

So 300,000 to 500,000 people show up for something the mainstream media doesn't like, so they claim that "tens of thousands" showed up. When it was really "Hundreds of thousands". They just like to diminish and belittle their opponents as much as they can. Why can't they just report the facts instead of making it all so biased? And who cares what day it was? I'm sure you can't have a rally on any day of the year because something important has already happened on every single day. So no more rallies!

What's sad is that they make these outrageous lies that are easily exposed by comparing pictures from the 8-28 event to past rallies at the same location.

Because surely conservatives would never lie about how many attented their event.



I am rolling my eyes so hard right now.

So the liberal media is always factual, especially when it's about something they disagree with? Compare the pictures of the 8-28 rally to both the numbers the media is reporting as well as pictures of past events and the numbers associated with them and then tell me where the facts lie. By the way, don't let your eyes roll right on out into the glass of koolaid.

if the "liberal media" (for 'liberal media' read 'anyone who isn't fox news') reports a lower number, they are doing america a favour. The number of people who go to washington to hear glenn beck sell more books is a way to directly measure the gullible, blind stupidity of flyover state fuckwits as a whole.
So which is it? Are there at least 500,000 people that fucking dumb? or fewer?

[AAFitz]

As a Republican, I do not see Beck as a representative of the party. The guy is a wack-job. Only once have I watched it (not willingly, but I really could not do much else at the time).

Though I'm quite sure there are people who claim to be representatives of other parties that the party's more sane members want nohting to do with.

Palin

[Night Strike]

if the "liberal media" (for 'liberal media' read 'anyone who isn't fox news') reports a lower number, they are doing america a favour. The number of people who go to washington to hear glenn beck sell more books is a way to directly measure the gullible, blind stupidity of flyover state fuckwits as a whole.
So which is it? Are there at least 500,000 people that fucking dumb? or fewer?

It's amazing how anyone who is a conservative is a "fuckwit". I guess it's impossible to be educated and have different values from a liberal.

[heavycola]

if the "liberal media" (for 'liberal media' read 'anyone who isn't fox news') reports a lower number, they are doing america a favour. The number of people who go to washington to hear glenn beck sell more books is a way to directly measure the gullible, blind stupidity of flyover state fuckwits as a whole.
So which is it? Are there at least 500,000 people that fucking dumb? or fewer?

It's amazing how anyone who is a conservative is a "fuckwit". I guess it's impossible to be educated and have different values from a liberal.

Thats not what I said. Fuckwits are simply fuckwits, not conservative or liberal or communist. Do all conservatives buy glenn beck books? Or could it be that there is an equal distribution of stupidity across the political spectrum?

[Night Strike]

if the "liberal media" (for 'liberal media' read 'anyone who isn't fox news') reports a lower number, they are doing america a favour. The number of people who go to washington to hear glenn beck sell more books is a way to directly measure the gullible, blind stupidity of flyover state fuckwits as a whole.
So which is it? Are there at least 500,000 people that fucking dumb? or fewer?

It's amazing how anyone who is a conservative is a "fuckwit". I guess it's impossible to be educated and have different values from a liberal.

Thats not what I said. Fuckwits are simply fuckwits, not conservative or liberal or communist. Do all conservatives buy glenn beck books? Or could it be that there is an equal distribution of stupidity across the political spectrum?

You immediately stated that everyone at the rally is a fuckwit as well as most of the people in the flyover states. I'll never apologize for believing that the growth of government is bad, and you and others claiming we are all fuckwits just shows you can't stand on your own arguments that you have to result to demeaning name calling. That you equate buying Beck's books with stupidity is telling about your lack of debate or respect for other viewpoints. Until you actually listen to what Beck says and refute it with facts, then you are on the losing side of the debate. Maybe if liberals actually spent time debating the points conservatives bring up, they wouldn't immediately turn off people with their name calling.