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Thu Veew: Saudi Prince Backs Moving Planned NYC Mosque

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tvMs_ybYGU

will whoopi and joy be Fired for this?

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No. Why would they be? It's their show. Are you stupid?
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The show was much better after they left. But I'm not their target audience. Even still, I question whether their target audience could still not be served by more rational and likable hosts.
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Phatscotty wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tvMs_ybYGU

will whoopi and joy be Fired for this?

Why on earth should they be fired?

He made the outrageous statement that it was Muslims who bombed the trade center and that is why no Mosque should stand and that Obama's simple statement that people have religious freedom in this country was somehow "unamerican".

Oh.. gee YOU have made such statements, so of course you cannot see the idiocy or plain hatred and utter intolerance in this issue. Terrorists who try to claim they are Muslims bombed the trade center. REAL Muslims are getting tired of having to defend their religion. I don't answer for the KKK, don't expect that Christians, as a whole, need to do so, and I don't explect every Muslim in the US to answer for Al Qaeda.
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ViperOverLord wrote:The show was much better after they left. But I'm not their target audience. Even still, I question whether their target audience could still not be served by more rational and likable hosts.

Well I hate whoopi but I think a lot of people like her. It's the yelling and obnoxious sensationalism that scores all the ratings.
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The Bison King wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:The show was much better after they left. But I'm not their target audience. Even still, I question whether their target audience could still not be served by more rational and likable hosts.

Well I hate whoopi but I think a lot of people like her. It's the yelling and obnoxious sensationalism that scores all the ratings.


Agreed. There must be a significant segment of their audience that appreciates 'zaniness' and 'charisma.' But I still wonder if overall it brings the show the biggest possible pay day. But maximizing viewership is not the only factor in producing a show despite how people love to talk about that element.
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o'reilley's an ass, can't stand his ignorance everytime he speaks. repeating his argument and raising his voice is all he does.

on the turnside, if you're hosting the show and you invite a guest, keep him in control or ask HIM to leave.
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The Bison King wrote:No. Why would they be? It's their show. Are you stupid?


oh, just quoting barbera walters (did you even watch?) Ya know the part where Barbera says "Hosts should NEVER do that"

I think a host doing something a "host should never do" might be grounds for firing? Maybe I am stupid tho?

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Phatscotty wrote:
The Bison King wrote:No. Why would they be? It's their show. Are you stupid?

oh, just quoting barbera walters (did you even watch?) Ya know the part where Barbera says "Hosts should NEVER do that"
I think a host doing something a "host should never do" might be grounds for firing? Maybe I am stupid tho?
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Is Barbara Walters their boss? If not, then I would say the answer to your last question is "yes".

However, I was impressed with how Ms Walters handled it. He obviously didn't at all agree with O'Reilly, but still recognized that the discussion needed to happen.

I was NOT AT ALL impressed with Whoopi, Joy OR Bill in this one. All three looked like asses.
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Woodruff wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
The Bison King wrote:No. Why would they be? It's their show. Are you stupid?

oh, just quoting barbera walters (did you even watch?) Ya know the part where Barbera says "Hosts should NEVER do that"
I think a host doing something a "host should never do" might be grounds for firing? Maybe I am stupid tho?
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Is Barbara Walters their boss? If not, then I would say the answer to your last question is "yes".

However, I was impressed with how Ms Walters handled it. He obviously didn't at all agree with O'Reilly, but still recognized that the discussion needed to happen.

I was NOT AT ALL impressed with Whoopi, Joy OR Bill in this one. All three looked like asses.


Actually, I do not know if she OWNS it, but I do know Walters CREATED it, and I really do think it's her show more than anyone elses....

I was impressed also. It's called professionalism, and Billy held on to his for the most part. He repeatedly let them speak, and sat calmly without saying a word after the sociopaths stomped off the stage...

One thing, and I know it won't change your mind, but this is something that I know to be true. When you have someone who is clearly about to lose it, and starts throwing bullshit 360 degrees (whoopi started yelling "Mcviegh! Mcveigh!), you MUST either shut them down, or else face explosion. Bill tried to shut her down, but it was already too late. I might also agree Bill failed to diffuse the situation. Either way

Hosts should not walk off their own show. Especially with a guest they invited

They will be in trouble for sure, fired? maybe Whoopi..."THAT IS SUCH BULLSHIT!" goldberg
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Re: Did U C "the view" 2day? (Behar.Ventura follow up added!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPV9_9hKvPo

wow, Ventura slams Behar with the same point Orielly did...(you could be view #2!!!!)
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I don't know if they should be fired, but I was happy that those ugly fat liberals left and forced us to have to look at Elizabeth Hasslebeck's awesome LEGS! OMG! She is sooo friggin' HAWWWWT!~ :twisted:

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PLAYER57832 wrote:He made the outrageous statement that it was Muslims who bombed the trade center and that is why no Mosque should stand and that Obama's simple statement that people have religious freedom in this country was somehow "unamerican".


Outrageous?

The sun is excessively hot and bright! ... Outrageous!

Objects tend to fall towards the center of gravity! ... Outrageous!

Muslims sent two planes into the World Trade Center and attempted to attack the White House and the U.S. Capitol. ... Outrageous!

But true. The above three statements are all true. Like it or not, they are all true.

Now where am I going with this?

"Christians" killed Jews during the Holocaust (technically not correct because Hitler was an Aryan Pagan but let's simplify). A Catholic Convent wanted to place a Cross near that site, many decades later. There was strong protests. Even the Pope told them to back down. They had the right. But they also had a responsibility. I am sorry, but there is no difference. And people tend to forget ... those relatives of Muslims who died in 9/11 ... THEY DON'T WANT IT. The first Muslim Miss USA ... DOESN'T WANT IT. But Whoopi and her liberal llamas live in la la land, peace, love and let's not judge ... unless it's a $#*(&($*&$(* tea party wacko.
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jaimito101 wrote:o'reilley's an ass, can't stand his ignorance everytime he speaks. repeating his argument and raising his voice is all he does.

on the turnside, if you're hosting the show and you invite a guest, keep him in control or ask HIM to leave.


He had to talk over some disrespectful hosts. They invited him on a show and then were not willing to listen to his view on a show called 'The View.' Furthermore they are very content to label him. Just look at the website: http://theview.abc.go.com/. Currently he is labeled as a 'conservative host.' He is not a conservative host and he has stated that numerous times. I guarantee they aren't labeling Anderson Cooper or George Stepanopolis as 'liberal hosts' when they are interviewed.
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tzor wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:He made the outrageous statement that it was Muslims who bombed the trade center and that is why no Mosque should stand and that Obama's simple statement that people have religious freedom in this country was somehow "unamerican".


Outrageous?

The sun is excessively hot and bright! ... Outrageous!

Objects tend to fall towards the center of gravity! ... Outrageous!

Muslims sent two planes into the World Trade Center and attempted to attack the White House and the U.S. Capitol. ... Outrageous!

But true. The above three statements are all true. Like it or not, they are all true.

Yeah, well.. you are Roman Catholic, so obviously you are responsible for all the violance against Protestants in Ireland.. oh, yeah, and the pedophile priests. and....

tzor wrote:Now where am I going with this?
see above

tzor wrote:"Christians" killed Jews during the Holocaust (technically not correct because Hitler was an Aryan Pagan but let's simplify). A Catholic Convent wanted to place a Cross near that site, many decades later. There was strong protests. Even the Pope told them to back down. They had the right. But they also had a responsibility. I am sorry, but there is no difference. .

This is the US, not Germany. And this is not on the site of 9-11. It is land already owned and used by the Muslim congregation.

tzor wrote:And people tend to forget ... those relatives of Muslims who died in 9/11 ... THEY DON'T WANT IT. The first Muslim Miss USA ... DOESN'T WANT IT. But Whoopi and her liberal llamas live in la la land, peace, love and let's not judge ... unless it's a $#*(&($*&$(* tea party wacko

Its not their congregation. Their opinion doesn't matter.... and neither does that of the "tea party wacko", as long as the laws of the area are followed.

If you want to make this a no church zone, no religion zone .. there are quite a few other congregations in the area that will be impacted. However, no, its only the Muslims who are to stay back. Saying that is to say that Al Qaeda represents those Muslims. That is as wrong as claiming that the KKK represents me.
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Player, are you saying it was not Muslims that attacked on 9-11?

please do not respond with a full page of tap dancing and non-sequiturs. Either it was Muslims, or it was not Muslims.
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Here's what you need to know about the people that watch The View:

Bill O'Reilly states that 70 percent of the American people don't want the Mosque and the audience roars.

The two bitches get up in protest about him using the term Muslims and the audience roars.

Barbara Walters says that should not have happened and the audience roars.

The View clearly panders to pea brains to begin with. Seriously, that's how unruly children act, not grown adults.
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PLAYER57832 wrote:Yeah, well.. you are Roman Catholic, so obviously you are responsible for all the violance against Protestants in Ireland.. oh, yeah, and the pedophile priests. and....


I get blamed for these two things all the time. (Well not really the former as there are no Orange men on Long Island.) Of course the later is more of a smoke screen because not all pedophiles are priests, not all pedophile priests are Roman Catholic (do Orthodox Jewish Rabbis count under the notion of "pedophile priest" or do they count under their own separate cateory) while all of the 9/11 hijackers were Muslim.

There is, by the way, a very large opposition against a Greek Orthodox Church by government authorities. This church was demolished when the towers fell on it. This church is far smaller than this proposed building that is not being built to suit the needs of the local congregation.
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tzor wrote: There is, by the way, a very large opposition against a Greek Orthodox Church by government authorities. This church was demolished when the towers fell on it. This church is far smaller than this proposed building that is not being built to suit the needs of the local congregation.

The reasons given? Because if it was close enough to have been knocked down, then it might well interfere with plans for the site.

This, on the other hand, is a group of folks wanting to discriminate against a particular religion because a few people who claim to be adherants did a terrible thing.

This is EXACTLY like saying I, and even you are to blame for the actions of the KKK because we are all Christian. (and no, the fact that I am Protestant and you are Roman Catholic does NOT matter... or did you not realize that the divisions within Islam are as deep or deeper than that, that Al Qaeda is no more friendly to the other branch than Protestants to Roman Catholics).
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Phatscotty wrote:Player, are you saying it was not Muslims that attacked on 9-11?

please do not respond with a full page of tap dancing and non-sequiturs. Either it was Muslims, or it was not Muslims.

Yes, well, Oklahoma was bombed by a Christian so of course you are guilty.

Actually, in truth, a lot of what you post here could be taken directly from McVeigh's writings.

Examples of McVeigh's writings, from Wikkipeadia article:
Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate "promises," they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight


McVeigh also wrote to Congressman John J. LaFalce, complaining about the arrest of a woman for carrying mace:

It is a lie if we tell ourselves that the police can protect us everywhere at all times. Firearms restrictions are bad enough, but now a woman can't even carry Mace in her purse?


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He told a student reporter:

The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[23]
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PLAYER57832 wrote:This is EXACTLY like saying I, and even you are to blame for the actions of the KKK because we are all Christian. (and no, the fact that I am Protestant and you are Roman Catholic does NOT matter... or did you not realize that the divisions within Islam are as deep or deeper than that, that Al Qaeda is no more friendly to the other branch than Protestants to Roman Catholics).


While the divisions are indeed deeper in Islam than in Christianity (while Christians generally had huge debates over doctrine they didn't go about killing the other's leders during the early centuries which happened in Islam) Al Qaeda is probably more friendly than the huge hostility that had existed between the Orance Men and the Irish Catholics, who were literally at war with each other. Al Qaeda will generally only attack other sects in order to further its goals against the Non Muslim Great Satan. The other case where the tangled web is woven is their common enemy the Zionist State of Israel.

All of this gets woven into the current project to build what was originally called Cordoba House right in the open wound of 9/11. You constantly try to wrap things into this that are just not true.
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tzor wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:This is EXACTLY like saying I, and even you are to blame for the actions of the KKK because we are all Christian. (and no, the fact that I am Protestant and you are Roman Catholic does NOT matter... or did you not realize that the divisions within Islam are as deep or deeper than that, that Al Qaeda is no more friendly to the other branch than Protestants to Roman Catholics).


While the divisions are indeed deeper in Islam than in Christianity (while Christians generally had huge debates over doctrine they didn't go about killing the other's leders during the early centuries which happened in Islam) Al Qaeda is probably more friendly than the huge hostility that had existed between the Orance Men and the Irish Catholics, who were literally at war with each other. Al Qaeda will generally only attack other sects in order to further its goals against the Non Muslim Great Satan. The other case where the tangled web is woven is their common enemy the Zionist State of Israel.

All of this gets woven into the current project to build what was originally called Cordoba House right in the open wound of 9/11. You constantly try to wrap things into this that are just not true.

So I am correct, but you still want to say I am wrong ... and did not answer my question, either.
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PLAYER57832 wrote:So I am correct, but you still want to say I am wrong ... and did not answer my question, either.


Sorry. First, Here is a photo of the former church. Here is a "fair and blanced" article on the subject. The most logical reason ... the church isn't bribing the officials of the corrupt port authority. PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING. PLACES OF WORSHIP ARE RARELY SKYSCRAPPERS.
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PLAYER57832 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Player, are you saying it was not Muslims that attacked on 9-11?

please do not respond with a full page of tap dancing and non-sequiturs. Either it was Muslims, or it was not Muslims.

Yes, well, Oklahoma was bombed by a Christian so of course you are guilty.

Actually, in truth, a lot of what you post here could be taken directly from McVeigh's writings.

Examples of McVeigh's writings, from Wikkipeadia article:
Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate "promises," they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight


McVeigh also wrote to Congressman John J. LaFalce, complaining about the arrest of a woman for carrying mace:

It is a lie if we tell ourselves that the police can protect us everywhere at all times. Firearms restrictions are bad enough, but now a woman can't even carry Mace in her purse?


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He told a student reporter:

The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[23]

how did I know you would run from the question? Your deflection reveals your answer. Like I didn't know it already...

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Phatscotty wrote: how did I know you would run from the question? Your deflection reveals your answer. !

No, you obviously don't know... and likely did not bother to read.

See, if YOU are entitled to claim that every Muslim is suspect, somehow to be held guilty, should have to pay a penalty because some idiots who claimed to be Muslim bombed the trade center, the YOU get to be held accountable for the idiot who bombed Oklahoma,

Not only did he share your religion, he spouted off many of the same beliefs you now spout off.

So, yes, I DID answer your question.
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