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Phatscotty wrote:perhaps he was the slightest bit angry? is that not a natural human response when violence has been initiated?
Her actions could only very minimally be considered "violent". And certainly, I don't see any reason for anger to be displayed in this instance, no.
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Even before the stepping-on incident, it really seems like a lot of people pinning somebody with a sign to the sidewalk. Did she probably do something stupid? Yeah. But, even given Phatscotty's (admittedly) context-providing video (isn't there always the rest of the story) she really seems like the victim here.

I do think specifying that the target is a woman in the thread title is a bit double-standard-ish.

Also, nobody knows what tongue-in-cheek means? Really?
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spurgistan wrote:Even before the stepping-on incident, it really seems like a lot of people pinning somebody with a sign to the sidewalk. Did she probably do something stupid? Yeah. But, even given Phatscotty's (admittedly) context-providing video (isn't there always the rest of the story) she really seems like the victim here.

I do think specifying that the target is a woman in the thread title is a bit double-standard-ish.

Also, nobody knows what tongue-in-cheek means? Really?
Was this guy a victim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma4T2WYp ... re=related

Or, should people be allowed to get as close as they want to a public figure, including crossing a marked security line and ignoring verbal cautions to stop, to deliver a one-off insult? Is that the "sanity" and "rational discussion" the Rally for Viacom, Inc. was about promoting?

Am I entitled run at the pig Obama wearing a disguise whenever he appears in public? If the pig Obama's SS terror troops tell me to back away should they only be permitted to use verbal cautions and if I choose to continue charging towards the pig in a disguise that is my sacred right and they best not lay hands on me?

Given the history of physical attacks on politicians in the USA, and the death threats Paul had received, this could just as easily have ended with blood on the pavement - as was the case with the lovely Monica Seles, ol' Saxi's FAV tennis star - instead of a sobbing, inept she-male on the pavement, curled in a fetal position, trying desperately to protect her tiny udders.
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Falkomagno wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXaILy3GE7U&feature=related
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A special investigation by the U.S. ESPN network showing how all European football fans are racist hatemongers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A

A sad, heart-wrenching story about dedicated athletes made to endure the worst in the Old World; neanderthal capital of global hate.
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Question: If a crazy loon runs into the street and up to a politicians SUV (open window) then is that not a security concern? She could have a gun or a knife or anything. I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.

Question: Did they really need to hold her down? Well even after they pulled her away she continued to try and run and catch-up to him. Given her conceivable threat status then I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.

Question: Did the man need to stomp on her? On one level it looked like an attempt to get her to stay down and after wards the man appeared to scream 'stay down.' I do think that likely the stomp was unneccessary force or there is a case to be made. It is a gray area to me.

I don't believe that there is enough evidence in any event for the police to press assault charges. And even if they did press charges then in the interest of fairness, they would also need to press charges of disorderly conduct towards the woman.

Question: Why is this isolated incident being exploited by the left? I believe that the left does not want to discuss the real issues. I also believe that the left will not be worried about condemning the 'attackers' when we inevitably see this situation reversed at some point in the future. I've seen liberal hypocrisy in everything and this would be no exception.
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ViperOverLord wrote:Question: If a crazy loon runs into the street and up to a politicians SUV (open window) then is that not a security concern? She could have a gun or a knife or anything. I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.

Question: Did they really need to hold her down? Well even after they pulled her away she continued to try and run and catch-up to him. Given her conceivable threat status then I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.
Truthfully, I have no problem at all with them holding her down, for exactly the reasons you state.
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saxitoxin wrote:A special investigation by the U.S. ESPN network showing how all European football fans are racist hatemongers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A

A sad, heart-wrenching story about dedicated athletes made to endure the worst in the Old World; neanderthal capital of global hate.
Thanks Saxi. I especially am happy that old WNBA scores were shown. That made the watch completely worth it. :mrgreen:
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Woodruff wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:Question: If a crazy loon runs into the street and up to a politicians SUV (open window) then is that not a security concern? She could have a gun or a knife or anything. I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.

Question: Did they really need to hold her down? Well even after they pulled her away she continued to try and run and catch-up to him. Given her conceivable threat status then I can at least see a legitimate case for that part.
Truthfully, I have no problem at all with them holding her down, for exactly the reasons you state.
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Hey, either you are part of the smear and part of playing out the lie, or you are not. It depends on one's character.
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