no way man. He was born in the Roman empire and was therefore a pagan.notyou2 wrote:Was jesus a christian?
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no way man. He was born in the Roman empire and was therefore a pagan.notyou2 wrote:Was jesus a christian?

Baron Von PWN wrote:no way man. He was born in the Roman empire and was therefore a pagan.notyou2 wrote:Was jesus a christian?

Screw you I answered anyway.notyou2 wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:no way man. He was born in the Roman empire and was therefore a pagan.notyou2 wrote:Was jesus a christian?
I wasn't asking you.

So you didBaron Von PWN wrote:Screw you I answered anyway.notyou2 wrote:Baron Von PWN wrote:no way man. He was born in the Roman empire and was therefore a pagan.notyou2 wrote:Was jesus a christian?
I wasn't asking you.

I didn't say he was a devout Muslim; just that he was a Muslim.Baron Von PWN wrote:He rarely attended friday prayers with his step father when he was 7. If that makes you a member of a religion, then I'm a catholic/presbeterian/born again christian/MuslimViperOverLord wrote:Eighty-seven percent of Indonesia is Muslim. Furthermore, there's been enough research done into Obama's past to confirm that he was a Muslim. The fact that he lies about it shows that he will do what it takes to have power. The conspiracy theory is not was he a Muslim. The conspiracy theory is that he wasn't a Muslim and that he actually is telling the truth.
I've been to catholic mass 5 times, because a grandparent wanted me to come allong. Am I former catholic?ViperOverLord wrote:I didn't say he was a devout Muslim; just that he was a Muslim.Baron Von PWN wrote:He rarely attended friday prayers with his step father when he was 7. If that makes you a member of a religion, then I'm a catholic/presbeterian/born again christian/MuslimViperOverLord wrote:Eighty-seven percent of Indonesia is Muslim. Furthermore, there's been enough research done into Obama's past to confirm that he was a Muslim. The fact that he lies about it shows that he will do what it takes to have power. The conspiracy theory is not was he a Muslim. The conspiracy theory is that he wasn't a Muslim and that he actually is telling the truth.

Agreed,'shouldn't',being the operative word.But this is Uhmerica,and we all know it makes an enormous difference.Personally I think he might secretly be an atheist,who knows that in his country this effectively disbars even the most brilliant from holding the position he has now,WHICH WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IS VERY SAD..tarynisabeast wrote:His religion is the least important thing about his ability to run your country... If he is in fact Muslim, which I highly doubt, then it really shouldn't make a difference...
I'm saying that he was a Muslim in his adolescence. He has made no account for it nor has the media pressed him. Instead he claims to be Christian b/c it is politically helpful while he doesn't ever go to church. I'd have to categorize how I suspect his Muslim background affects him as speculative. But I can say that he uses religion as a prop and I don't trust anyone that does such things.Baron Von PWN wrote:I've been to catholic mass 5 times, because a grandparent wanted me to come allong. Am I former catholic?ViperOverLord wrote:I didn't say he was a devout Muslim; just that he was a Muslim.Baron Von PWN wrote:He rarely attended friday prayers with his step father when he was 7. If that makes you a member of a religion, then I'm a catholic/presbeterian/born again christian/MuslimViperOverLord wrote:Eighty-seven percent of Indonesia is Muslim. Furthermore, there's been enough research done into Obama's past to confirm that he was a Muslim. The fact that he lies about it shows that he will do what it takes to have power. The conspiracy theory is not was he a Muslim. The conspiracy theory is that he wasn't a Muslim and that he actually is telling the truth.
I've been to Friday prayers a couple times just to see what it was like. Am I a former Muslim?
Are you really saying attending Friday prayers a few times is enough to make you a Muslim?
His mother has stated she wanted her son to receive a broad education including on religious matters. His attendance to Friday prayers could have been part of that.
He was baptised and active at this church for nearly two decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Un ... _of_ChristViperOverLord wrote:I'm saying that he was a Muslim in his adolescence. He has made no account for it nor has the media pressed him. Instead he claims to be Christian b/c it is politically helpful while he doesn't ever go to church. I'd have to categorize how I suspect his Muslim background affects him as speculative. But I can say that he uses religion as a prop and I don't trust anyone that does such things.Baron Von PWN wrote:I've been to catholic mass 5 times, because a grandparent wanted me to come allong. Am I former catholic?ViperOverLord wrote:I didn't say he was a devout Muslim; just that he was a Muslim.Baron Von PWN wrote:He rarely attended friday prayers with his step father when he was 7. If that makes you a member of a religion, then I'm a catholic/presbeterian/born again christian/MuslimViperOverLord wrote:Eighty-seven percent of Indonesia is Muslim. Furthermore, there's been enough research done into Obama's past to confirm that he was a Muslim. The fact that he lies about it shows that he will do what it takes to have power. The conspiracy theory is not was he a Muslim. The conspiracy theory is that he wasn't a Muslim and that he actually is telling the truth.
I've been to Friday prayers a couple times just to see what it was like. Am I a former Muslim?
Are you really saying attending Friday prayers a few times is enough to make you a Muslim?
His mother has stated she wanted her son to receive a broad education including on religious matters. His attendance to Friday prayers could have been part of that.

I'm aware that he went to his hate whitey church for 20 years. If he was going to find a racist substitute for Islam, he succeeded. But yea, I was making an inference to his so-called Christian church when I said that he uses religion as a prop.Baron Von PWN wrote:He was baptised and active at this church for nearly two decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Un ... _of_Christ
Pretty sure his mother was Jewish. Anyways, another poll with the Jewish option garnered 1%.Baron Von PWN wrote:I wanted to vote Jewish. He is obviously part of the Jewish conspiracy to control the world.
Ah so its only truly Christian if its your kind of Christian hmm? Also he attended this church for twenty years just so he could one day use it in his political career. A planner your president!ViperOverLord wrote:I'm aware that he went to his hate whitey church for 20 years. If he was going to find a racist substitute for Islam, he succeeded. But yea, I was making an inference to his so-called Christian church when I said that he uses religion as a prop.Baron Von PWN wrote:He was baptised and active at this church for nearly two decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_Un ... _of_Christ

Are you trying to imply that Obama is the Messiah of an as-yet-unnamed religion?notyou2 wrote:VOL was Jesus a christian?
I am showing the hypocrisy of these supposedly righteous christians in the fact that they oppose a man who has relatives that are muslims, yet they revere a man that they insist is a christian yet was born a jew.Timminz wrote:Are you trying to imply that Obama is the Messiah of an as-yet-unnamed religion?notyou2 wrote:VOL was Jesus a christian?

1. That's your own false recap that somebody is opposing him on the basis of Muslim relatives.notyou2 wrote:I am showing the hypocrisy of these supposedly righteous christians in the fact that they oppose a man who has relatives that are muslims, yet they revere a man that they insist is a christian yet was born a jew.Timminz wrote:Are you trying to imply that Obama is the Messiah of an as-yet-unnamed religion?notyou2 wrote:VOL was Jesus a christian?

Give me the quote in which I said I have an issue with Obama having Muslim relatives. That's your own twisted interpretation.notyou2 wrote:Then your issue with Obama having muslim relatives is moot. You just defeated your own argument.
Really? Well I'll be damned! And all this time, I thought he was a Jackass, just like every other scuzzy politician in the world!BigBallinStalin wrote:I thought Obama was a Jedi...
ViperOverLord wrote:Give me the quote in which I said I have an issue with Obama having Muslim relatives. That's your own twisted interpretation.notyou2 wrote:Then your issue with Obama having muslim relatives is moot. You just defeated your own argument.
NO!
If one is born a Muslim, one's father is a Muslim, and then one's step-father is a Muslim, and one is raised and lives in a Muslim country and goes to a Muslim school and keeps one's Muslim name, the only excuse for people who might suspect he is a Muslim is because they are Islamophobic and racist.notyou2 wrote:Then your issue with Obama having muslim relatives is moot. You just defeated your own argument.
How is the religion of a baby who's parents have different religions determined? Do they come out with a birthmark shaped into a symbol of their religion? Does a team of experts analyse their howls(babies who are silent at birth are obvi atheists)?Phatscotty wrote:If one is born a Muslim, one's father is a Muslim, and then one's step-father is a Muslim, and one is raised and lives in a Muslim country and goes to a Muslim school and keeps one's Muslim name, the only excuse for people who might suspect he is a Muslim is because they are Islamophobic and racist.notyou2 wrote:Then your issue with Obama having muslim relatives is moot. You just defeated your own argument.
"But the elitist Ivy League lawyer with political ambitions said........"

The problem with this argument is manifold.Phatscotty wrote:If one is born a Muslim, one's father is a Muslim, and then one's step-father is a Muslim, and one is raised and lives in a Muslim country and goes to a Muslim school and keeps one's Muslim name, the only excuse for people who might suspect he is a Muslim is because they are Islamophobic and racist.notyou2 wrote:Then your issue with Obama having muslim relatives is moot. You just defeated your own argument.
"But the elitist Ivy League lawyer with political ambitions said........"