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Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.
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DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.
A 'pre-made' espresso would be just as fast.
I recommend making a whole pot of drip coffee and keeping it in the refrigerator. It stays perfectly fresh for several days. Just reheat it in the microwave.
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DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.
Uh no. Wrong. The actual meaning is "pressed out" and the coffee part is assumed. The correct term is "caffè espresso."

Perhaps you are confusing the term presto?
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"Very funny" means extremely humorous, and yet it's used as the title for emails that are deathly dull and utterly devoid of humour.
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tzor wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Espresso means "quick in time" yet its a much slower coffee than drip coffee that is premade at McDonald's.
Uh no. Wrong. The actual meaning is "pressed out" and the coffee part is assumed. The correct term is "caffè espresso."

Perhaps you are confusing the term presto?
From Wikipedia:
Although some Anglo-American dictionaries simply refer to "pressed-out",[18] "espresso," much like the English word "express", conveys the senses of "just for you" and "quickly," which can be related to the method of espresso preparation.

The words express, expres and espresso each have several meanings in English, French and Italian. The first meaning is to do with the idea of "expressing" or squeezing the flavour from the coffee using the pressure of the steam. The second meaning is to do with speed, as in a train. Finally there is the notion of doing something "expressly" for a person ... The first Bezzera and Pavoni espresso machines in 1906 took 45 seconds to make a cup of coffee, one at a time, expressly for you.[19]

Another source, the Online Etymology Dictionary, favors the "pressed out" explanation: "coffee made under steam pressure, 1945, from Italian (caffe) espresso, from espresso 'pressed out,' past participle of esprimere, from Latin exprimere 'press out, squeeze out' ... [, i]n reference to the steam pressure."[20]

Modern espresso, using hot water under pressure, as pioneered by Gaggia in the 1940s, was originally called crema caffè, in English "cream coffee", as can be seen on old Gaggia machines, due to the crema.[21] This term is no longer used, though crema caffè and variants (caffè crema, café crema) find occasional use in branding.
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Fishing- drinking beer not catching fish.

Parkway- something you drive on

Driveway- something you park on



By the way, coffee makes me fart, how bout you?
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raised/razed
flammable/inflammable
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Yes Jones, the subject of contranyms is a most serious one.

Are these terms mere linguistic quirks or are they the harbingers of communicative disintegration?

Wikipedia's list needs some reorganization but it is a very good list to start with.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... contranyms
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Thorthoth wrote:Yes Jones, the subject of contranyms is a most serious one.

Are these terms mere linguistic quirks or are they the harbingers of communicative disintegration?

Wikipedia's list needs some reorganization but it is a very good list to start with.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... contranyms
I don't think this qualifies:
oral/aural
pertaining to speech / pertaining to hearing

People only speak to be heard. Oral and Aural should be treated as symbionyms, not contranyms.
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logic of the english language:
Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.
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waauw wrote:logic of the english language:
Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.
That case isn't a contranym. You're get the prefixes 'in/im' and 'un' confused.
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Thorthoth wrote:
waauw wrote:logic of the english language:
Oxford dictionaries wrote:valuable
1Worth a great deal of money.
1.1 Extremely useful or important.

invaluable
Extremely useful; indispensable.
That case isn't a contranym. You're get the prefixes 'in/im' and 'un' confused.
No, it's not a contranym, which is exactly my point. And 'in/im' has the same meaning as 'un'.
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There are plenty that I like that changed meanings-

"Dreadful"- used to mean inspired "dread", now means almost the opposite- something terrible which leads me to...
"Terrible"- used to mean inspiring terror, now just means something bad.

Some phrases have come to mean the same thing- "I could care less" and "I couldn't care less" mean the same thing, for example.
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"I really hate" when the phrase means that he doesn't?
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I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.
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Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.
I f you really like ambiguity, then shut up before you start whining about your lates hurtful/hateful/iun-PC issue, you dorksucker.
You're probably just misinterpreting it. In fact, it might even ambiguously mean the exact opposite of what you think it does.
Clearly many secondary contranymic definitions started out as sarcasm.
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Thorthoth wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.
I f you really like ambiguity, then shut up before you start whining about your lates hurtful/hateful/iun-PC issue, you dorksucker.
You're probably just misinterpreting it. In fact, it might even ambiguously mean the exact opposite of what you think it does.
Clearly many secondary contranymic definitions started out as sarcasm.
Nice try.
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Can we ever come to an agreement that Wikipedia is a poor source for information?

Cool.
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"Virtual" used to mean "real". Now it means "not real".
"Nice" used to mean "thin".
"Sophisticated" used to mean "pretentious".
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Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.
:lol:

You are an idiot. But the joke is good...:)
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DirtyDishSoap wrote:Can we ever come to an agreement that Wikipedia is a poor source for information?

Cool.
It is what it is- an encyclopedia. A great source of information if you want to skim a subject. For anything controversial it's poor as a rule. Treat it as unreliable, is my general rule, and always look at the sources.
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Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I like ambiguity.

For one thing, it really makes Alanis Morissette's ability to craft a song about irony run rings about Dukasaur even at the most basic level.
:lol:

You are an idiot. But the joke is good...:)
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