ICE vs ROAD RAGE!!!

[jusplay4fun]

These responses show a lack of thought, analysis, and NO desire to wait for the FACTS, instead, RUSHING to Judgement and condemnation and name calling. Who sounds like the Gestapo NOW? Here we have several parrots of Mayor Frey and other Leftist MN Politicians. When will the rioting begin? NAHHH, it's TOO COLD in Minnesota, MAN...!

Those responders, here, and "on the ground" do NOT WANT facts, they want VENGEANCE, and DO NOT want justice, but a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT and KNOW, BEFORE ALL FACTS are in, that this ICE Officer is GUILTY. Fortunately, American Justice does NOT work that way, as shown by the DOJ Report of March 2015 AND Countless other cases where someone is accused and TRIED in the "court" of Public Media, with many BIASED reporters who do not spend enough time looking for FACTS and do not seek Justice. They instead cherry pick details to confirm their preconceived BIASES.

I watched the ENTIRE pack rat video; why did I BOTHER???? What a waste of my time. THIS IS Confirmation of his TOTAL BIAS and his Trump Derangement Syndrome. If Biden had enforced the immigration Laws (and followed his OATH), we would NOT be in this MESS. Who allowed THOUSANDS of ILLEGAL ALIENS in each and everyday? This is another instance of the DISASTER that was (Feeble Old and Demented) Joe Biden. Let's Go, Brandon....!

This was an IMMIGRATION enforcement activity, not a detail for Traffic cops. Renee Good was NOT an innocent bystander, but an anti-ICE activist and agitator. You send you car within inches toward a guy, ANY guy, with a GUN and you're "flirtin with disaster."


By the way, Mayor Frey ADMITS the vehicle HIT the ICI Officer. Yes, a Tragedy and NOT good for this nation. BUT do not accept the False Narrative that this is an INNOCENT mother who was merely observing. Remember the "mostly peaceful" RIOTS of 2020? Some here have short OR NO memory.

Has the actual fake Christian, pee pee rat, now trying to wrap himself in the Bible ever BEFORE shown or claimed to be a Christian? Perhaps it was among the 1,001 posts of his that I IGNORED. LOSER

[ConfederateSS]

---------------To people want to see things and speak before facts are IN......"KYLE RITTENHOUSE".......Brought up on 5 self defense things.........In the public worse than Stalin....I think you never here that,Stalin killed more people,Jews also...Than Hitler.....Stalin,Putin's Hero...The LEFT are nothing more than COMMIE PINKO THEMSELVES......IN A COURT OF LAW......KYLE RITTENHOUSE FOUND NOT GUILTY ON ALL 5 COUNTS OF SELF DEFENSE ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
----------NEW YORK CITY...Outside of CALI/MINNESOTA....COMMIE PINKO HEAVEN...THEY JUST VOTED A COMMIE PINKO MAYOR......

[riskllama]

These responses show a lack of thought, analysis, and NO desire to wait for the FACTS, instead, RUSHING to Judgement and condemnation and name calling. Who sounds like the Gestapo NOW? Here we have several parrots of Mayor Frey and other Leftist MN Politicians. When will the rioting begin? NAHHH, it's TOO COLD in Minnesota, MAN...!

Those responders, here, and "on the ground" do NOT WANT facts, they want VENGEANCE, and DO NOT want justice, but a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT and KNOW, BEFORE ALL FACTS are in, that this ICE Officer is GUILTY. Fortunately, American Justice does NOT work that way, as shown by the DOJ Report of March 2015 AND Countless other cases where someone is accused and TRIED in the "court" of Public Media, with many BIASED reporters who do not spend enough time looking for FACTS and do not seek Justice. They instead cherry pick details to confirm their preconceived BIASES.

exactly how much thought do you think it requires to disagree w/this guy's...I dunno, "Israeli style" response? if she's breaking the law - which she almost certainly was - put her in jail, not in the ground. cheese & onions, man...

[jusplay4fun]

These responses show a lack of thought, analysis, and NO desire to wait for the FACTS, instead, RUSHING to Judgement and condemnation and name calling. Who sounds like the Gestapo NOW? Here we have several parrots of Mayor Frey and other Leftist MN Politicians. When will the rioting begin? NAHHH, it's TOO COLD in Minnesota, MAN...!

Those responders, here, and "on the ground" do NOT WANT facts, they want VENGEANCE, and DO NOT want justice, but a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT and KNOW, BEFORE ALL FACTS are in, that this ICE Officer is GUILTY. Fortunately, American Justice does NOT work that way, as shown by the DOJ Report of March 2015 AND Countless other cases where someone is accused and TRIED in the "court" of Public Media, with many BIASED reporters who do not spend enough time looking for FACTS and do not seek Justice. They instead cherry pick details to confirm their preconceived BIASES.

exactly how much thought do you think it requires to disagree w/this guy's...I dunno, "Israeli style" response? if she's breaking the law - which she almost certainly was - put her in jail, not in the ground. cheese & onions, man...

"Israeli style"...???? You mean like US forces did to snatch Maduro out of Venezuela?

Oh, AND an ADMISSION that Renee Good was

breaking the law - which she almost certainly was

how much thought

Renee Good and her partner thought that interferring with a LEGAL and Lawful enforcement of IMMIGRATION Laws was without ANY RISK? Isn't this site based on the Game RISK? AND Many on here cannot calculate ODDS or anticipate MORE than a simple one-dimensional response? REALLY? You guys actually PLAY the game, right??

Do we want citizens interfering when the Police in NYC, or Buffalo, or Chicago or (insert the name of your Home Town HERE).....with the local police ARRESTS of Criminals?? That is what ICE Watcher activists are doing as ICE arrests ILLEGAL Aliens. THAT is approaching anarchy, and the ICE Watchers DO NOT have the Moral High Ground, as Duk and others TRY to CLAIM. Does her status as a mother make her LESS guilty? Does the status of an ICE Officer as a father make him LESS accountable? Does the fact that Renee Good refused to follow the order of an officer of the Law make her actions excusable? (Please see what RiskLlama posted here just above.)

The "game" Good and her partner and other ICE Watcher activists wanted to "play" is NOT a GAME but is REAL with real humans and real CONSEQUENCES, no matter how some want to SPIN IT. Those hurt are not Zombies or bots or UNREAL symbols on a screen. This is a dangerous "game" played by wannabee civil rights activists. Their actions go beyond peaceful protests. Their actions bring many into danger. They failed to grasp the possible consequences of their actions. That is true, I think, of many in this incident.

AND A KEY POINT: the actions that led to this sad, tragic death all occurred in SECONDS and we have many "playing Monday Morning Quarterback" in something that happened in a a FLASH, in SECONDS.

Those who claim that she was murdered or executed are using the vantage of hindsight, and, frankly, are doing so POORLY and with LOTS OF BIAS. This incident had a very tragic end in an unnecessary and avoidable death. She did not need to be there, as her grieving partner admitted. More than ONE person is responsible for that end; sadly and unfortunately, one of them is Renee Good. May Renee Good rest in peace.

[Evil Semp]

I am going to start out by saying I am not a Democrat or a Republication. Both sides have come up with good policies and bad policies.

Both sides call each other names but get upset when they are called names. Both sides jump to conclusions, don't look at the facts and put out false narratives.

The shooting of Renee Good. I feel she put herself in a bad situation by trying to interfere with the actions of the ICE agents. Did she intend to run him over?

Did ICE agent Jonathan Ross put himseld in a dangerous situation? I believe so. Why would you stand in front of a running car when he was run over about six weeks ago? There is always the chance that when the person you
you are trying to detain will try to drive away. What if he missed her and the bullet hit someone on the sidewalk?

Both of their actions contributed to her death.

That's my 2 cents worth.

[Pack Rat]

Slow motion of Ice Agent who murdered mother of three children.

[ConfederateSS]

I am going to start out by saying I am not a Democrat or a Republication. Both sides have come up with good policies and bad policies.

Both sides call each other names but get upset when they are called names. Both sides jump to conclusions, don't look at the facts and put out false narratives.

The shooting of Renee Good. I feel she put herself in a bad situation by trying to interfere with the actions of the ICE agents. Did she intend to run him over?

Did ICE agent Jonathan Ross put himseld in a dangerous situation? I believe so. Why would you stand in front of a running car when he was run over about six weeks ago? There is always the chance that when the person you
you are trying to detain will try to drive away. What if he missed her and the bullet hit someone on the sidewalk?

Both of their actions contributed to her death.

That's my 2 cents worth.

---------If you watch the agent's video from the other side...THERE IS A DOG IN THE BACKSEAT......He could of hit the dog... WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG ...No (D)/(R),next to your name EvilSemp...JOIN THE CSA...CSA CSA ...As We Continue To Fight THE SECOND ROMAN EMPIRE...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...
--------------WHERE IS PETA and THE ASPCA ...

[Evil Semp]

I am going to start out by saying I am not a Democrat or a Republication. Both sides have come up with good policies and bad policies.

Both sides call each other names but get upset when they are called names. Both sides jump to conclusions, don't look at the facts and put out false narratives.

The shooting of Renee Good. I feel she put herself in a bad situation by trying to interfere with the actions of the ICE agents. Did she intend to run him over?

Did ICE agent Jonathan Ross put himseld in a dangerous situation? I believe so. Why would you stand in front of a running car when he was run over about six weeks ago? There is always the chance that when the person you
you are trying to detain will try to drive away. What if he missed her and the bullet hit someone on the sidewalk?

Both of their actions contributed to her death.

That's my 2 cents worth.

---------If you watch the agent's video from the other side...THERE IS A DOG IN THE BACKSEAT......He could of hit the dog... WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG ...No (D)/(R),next to your name EvilSemp...JOIN THE CSA...CSA CSA ...As We Continue To Fight THE SECOND ROMAN EMPIRE...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ...
--------------WHERE IS PETA and THE ASPCA ...

What is the CSA?

[jusplay4fun]

I am going to start out by saying I am not a Democrat or a Republication. Both sides have come up with good policies and bad policies.

Both sides call each other names but get upset when they are called names. Both sides jump to conclusions, don't look at the facts and put out false narratives.

The shooting of Renee Good. I feel she put herself in a bad situation by trying to interfere with the actions of the ICE agents. Did she intend to run him over?

Did ICE agent Jonathan Ross put himseld in a dangerous situation? I believe so. Why would you stand in front of a running car when he was run over about six weeks ago? There is always the chance that when the person you
you are trying to detain will try to drive away. What if he missed her and the bullet hit someone on the sidewalk?

Both of their actions contributed to her death.

That's my 2 cents worth.

I think this post by Evil Semp is one of the more BALANCED and FAIR assessments of the whole situation in regards to the tragic death of Renee Good by the ICE Officer. He says:

Both of their actions contributed to her death.

I totally agree,

Also, thanks for ConfedSS of reminding us of OTHERS who have been subject to a RUSH to judgement without knowing or waiting for ALL or MOST or at least MORE facts to emerge. This happened to Kyle Rittenhouse, Richard Jewell, and the police officer who shot Michael Brown (that I referenced earlier in this thread).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

If there is sufficient EVIDENCE of wrongdoing here by the ICE Officer, he will be subject to a Criminal Trial, as were the two mentioned above. This will occur if and when a Grand Jury is summoned to look at some of the evidence. That is how the JUSTICE System in the USA works; this is NOT trial by Media or Public Opinion. The shooter of Michael Brown was NEVER TRIED, as there was insufficient evidence to even CHARGE the Officer in Missouri. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" was a lie, and is oft-repeated.

[mookiemcgee]

Did ICE agent Jonathan Ross put himseld in a dangerous situation? I believe so. Why would you stand in front of a running car when he was run over about six weeks ago? There is always the chance that when the person you are trying to detain will try to drive away. What if he missed her and the bullet hit someone on the sidewalk?

You aren't wrong, in fact there is a strong evidence he learned to step in front of cars to justify shooting the people inside 15 years ago during his time as a border patrol agent...



An independent 2014 review found that some Border Patrol agents deliberately stepped in front of moving vehicles to create a pretext for using deadly force. A specific ICE agent involved in a recent Minneapolis shooting, identified as Jonathan Ross, was a Border Patrol agent during the timeframe covered by that critical report.

The 2014 Report Findings

The report by the Police Executive Research Forum (PERF), commissioned by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), examined 67 use-of-force cases from 2010 to 2012 that resulted in 19 deaths. Key findings included:

Manufacturing Justification: The report suspected that in many vehicle shooting cases, agents placed themselves in the exit path of a vehicle to justify the use of deadly force.

Policy Omission: The existing policy at the time did not explicitly address situations where an officer's own conduct might exacerbate the potential danger, which was at odds with best policing practices.

Lack of Oversight: The report criticized the Border Patrol for a "lack of diligence" in investigating use-of-force incidents.

Following the leak of this scathing review, a new directive was issued in March 2014, which explicitly stated that agents should not intentionally place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block its path.

[ConfederateSS]

--------------I'm sure you are joking EVIL SEMP......What is THE GLORIOUS CSA .......THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA
--------------------The USA was founded by THE FATHERS of The USA...UNDER GOD.....BUT THEY MODELED The USA AFTER ANCIENT ROME...EVEN TODAY THE USA RESEMBLES ANCIENT ROME....I have a thread on the mirror images....The know it alls will say , a lot of counties have, this or that...
-------------------- THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE...Between them and The USA....THE USA WAS MODELED AFTER ANCIENT ROME...They were not...I'll pop up the The Thread up, I talked about...For you EvilSemp....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Evil Semp]

--------------I'm sure you are joking EVIL SEMP......What is THE GLORIOUS CSA .......THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA
--------------------The USA was founded by THE FATHERS of The USA...UNDER GOD.....BUT THEY MODELED The USA AFTER ANCIENT ROME...EVEN TODAY THE USA RESEMBLES ANCIENT ROME....I have a thread on the mirror images....The know it alls will say , a lot of counties have, this or that...
-------------------- THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE...Between them and The USA....THE USA WAS MODELED AFTER ANCIENT ROME...They were not...I'll pop up the The Thread up, I talked about...For you EvilSemp....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

That's what I thought you meant.

I proudly wore the uniform of our county. Not that I considered it but, I feel if I joined the CSA that I would be a traitor.

[ConfederateSS]

--------------I'm sure you are joking EVIL SEMP......What is THE GLORIOUS CSA .......THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA
--------------------The USA was founded by THE FATHERS of The USA...UNDER GOD.....BUT THEY MODELED The USA AFTER ANCIENT ROME...EVEN TODAY THE USA RESEMBLES ANCIENT ROME....I have a thread on the mirror images....The know it alls will say , a lot of counties have, this or that...
-------------------- THERE IS ONE DIFFERENCE...Between them and The USA....THE USA WAS MODELED AFTER ANCIENT ROME...They were not...I'll pop up the The Thread up, I talked about...For you EvilSemp....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

That's what I thought you meant.

I proudly wore the uniform of our county. Not that I considered it but, I feel if I joined the CSA that I would be a traitor.

------------NAH....You wouldn't be a traitor......TAKE 6 FLAGS Amusement Park......IT REPRESENTS THE 6 FLAGS TEXAS HAS PROUDLY WORN ... ...You could just pretend , You are in a War Between The States...Reenactment ... ...... ConfederateSS,out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Pack Rat]

Murdered mother of three children was denied medical treatment.