Line of Duty Mafia game - DAY 1 Game on

[Charle]

OK, I was waiting for the vote count, and I will definitely not doing the hammering, as I really believe King is town. What we now have, is that King, because you are on L-2, instead of a soft claim, you can give us your full claim so that we can work with that. So which character in the series do you present and what is that role and why is it sort of vanilla? If you are going to be lynched, we will get the details of your role anyway. If you give us your full claim now and it is believable town aligned, town might score by having your head saved for another day and we did not do the scum's job for them. If you are scum, I assume you are in a corner by having to guess the name of a character with a clean role.

[Kingm]

Ok, played a CC turn, that's why I was slow, now I will answer your questions.

King, Who are your top 3 scum reads?

1.SoN!c - 2 and 3 = Lurkers

Who should be lynched tomorrow if you flip town (besides me - let's say i get nightkilled)? (Town players should always leave legacy reads)

If you somehow is dead, then I would say use the info from N1, if no info then kill a lurker, since you are dead in this scenario.

What is your idea on Traf?

Like this just becomes not gamerelated, but he is my fellow clanleader, and big huncho in ACES, and I know a lot of why he did not play last game etc, but I can say as much as he has a bit better time now then at the end of last year, but he is still busy, I almost think he has looked at this thread maybe just when he confirmed and when I bumped him on DM discord that people wanted to hear from him and that there was discussions in the mafia game, so if he had time he should take a look.

because Traf is:

-invisible
-not defending you
-not pushing the "no lynch" wagon

That is classic scum avoidance behavior.

I think Traf is town, because last time he was scum, we wore scum together, and them he was very active even from D1, it was a game you lead so it was much more host involvement, so that a totally different game, so maybe he is scum that does not give a f*ck until N1, but yeah reads Town to me, but thats based on like almost 0 and just none mafia related things and behaviors from previous games.

What is your idea on Charle?

because Charle is:

-disappearing
-staying off your wagon

That is a common scum tactic

Hmm again I will use CC a bit, I am currently playing a set of games in CCPSL vs Charle, and he has not even wished me GL back, he is taking turns quick etc, but since he has not even said hi in chat I have a feeling maybe he is busy, but why does he fast play turns then, hmm.

I have also not seen his name reading this thread at all, so I think he probably just has gotten into it yet, and thats weird, since he usually is very active, but maybe RL stuff, who knows?
No read on him, but he is a lurker like 5-6-7 other, and IMHO they should get killed before me.

And lastly: who do you think will be nightkilled by scum?

Hmm good question, if I was scum I would takeout an active player and good player, so like if Ragian is town, I would say that a doc should protect him.

[Kingm]

OK, I was waiting for the vote count, and I will definitely not doing the hammering, as I really believe King is town. What we now have, is that King, because you are on L-2, instead of a soft claim, you can give us your full claim so that we can work with that. So which character in the series do you present and what is that role and why is it sort of vanilla? If you are going to be lynched, we will get the details of your role anyway. If you give us your full claim now and it is believable town aligned, town might score by having your head saved for another day and we did not do the scum's job for them. If you are scum, I assume you are in a corner by having to guess the name of a character with a clean role.

Ehh? Hmm not allowed to copy paste right?
My role is Town aligned, Vanilla, I do not have a name or anything, it says something about luck of draw and not a yellow notice, but I believe that LC being funny since I voted on him before we started the game.

So your character has a name Charle?
Can PLEASE another Vanilla town come to my rescue and either lynch me or save me by giving out a name/no name as I have.

[SoN!c]

Alright, since Ragian dropped his list and asked everyone to do the same (town thrives in clarity, not obscurity), here’s mine.

strike wolf - Way too silent. Neutral to townish but wary. I think Strike just wants to survive at least 3 days this time instead of getting killed N1 every time lately..
TrafalgarLaw01 - Silent-scum special. Zero content, zero defense of his own clan buddy Kingm?? Scum.
Devante - Took a stand… on the wrong target (Cofari at deadline). Grasping-at-straws vibes and cofari vote that late?. hmm Dev is just fast-scrolling doing just a "chore" and is not realy in the game with his mind. Neutral to town.
Ragian - Still voting Kingm, asked the hard questions, had a true emotion (unaware), Came off my tunnel and committed. Very much Town.
Djfireside - Joined the Kingm party when there was no ulterior motive. Committed hard and stayed. Solid participation. Leaning to solid town.
Cofari - No clue, zero posts. Classic inactive that should be modkilled (replaced) or pressured early Day 2 to L-2, but not now. No clue.
hjelp - Active and trying, even if the Cofari push is wrong. Genuine solve attempt. Leaning town.
homer_jay - Rational posts, voted Kingm, sees the Traf link. Wish he posted more but quality over quantity. Leaning town despite Strike's warning about him.
Riskmaster101 - No clue, hasn’t participated. Same as Cofari. No clue.
Kingm - Unforced super-super-super-important vanilla claim, SK flex.., Traf alignment line, meltdown manifesto, “I almost want to be lynched”, mother-promise + “you’ll see when I’m dead” emotional cry let me live.. Scum (actually 100 % convinced of that in my notebook).
Charle - Soft-claimed under zero pressure, then went ghost. Classic scum hiding behind a fake claim. Leaning hard to scum.
kongming3 - Dropped a clean vote on Kingm after good reasoning, warned against blind confidence in me. Want more from him. Leaning much towards town.
SoN!c - Obviously town. Pushed the highest-info lynch from the start, never wavered, and every single meltdown from Kingm proves it. Town. I get it if others see me as a "wildcard" and i get Rag's suspicion after the hard head on clash..but that's the best way to get info out and filing in reports..
general cod - No clue, hasn’t participated. No clue.
annieh - AC-12 rage mode activated, switched back to Kingm with fire, consistent all in all. Funny as hell too. Town.

Bottom line: we are two votes away from the single highest-information flip in the game. And Deadline is tomorrow. Watch out

Also here is my top 2 "Most Likely Night Kill" list in a no lynch scenario:

Ragian
Why scum would kill him:
Posted a full player analysis list
Clearly thinking about associative reads
Appears townread by several players
Those players are dangerous because they organize town thinking on Day 2.

Second Most Likely
kongming3
Reasons:
Independent thinker
Warned people not to blindly trust me
Analytical and calm

I think i'll survive in a no lynch because scum will think i'll be the easy mislynch target later.

However in a lynch Kingm scenario where Kingm flips scum i will become the most trusted townie alive — the guy who was right all along after 19 days of high wall-of-text pressure.. Scum cannot let that happen. Killing me removes the person who would lead the Day 2 bloodbath on the remaining scumtargets (Traf, Charle, etc.) and prevents me from cashing in on massive town cred. NK me also would buy scum the most breathing room heading into Day 2..

In short : Not lynching Kingm is a high probability in having Ragian or Kongming NK. Lynching Kingm (scum) will put a giant red crosshair on my back for scum tonight. If Kingm flips town somehow, it's the most tilted townie meltdown ever, but evidence says no. Anf Traf still looks awful for ghosting his "buddy" under high noose pressure Kingm.

[SoN!c]

FP by Kingm

[Ragian]

@Charle, what's going on? King claimed ages ago. This is one of the reasons he's in this mess...

[SoN!c]

Yes Charle, what is going on?

Why do you think - in such an overconfident way - that Kingm is town after all?

If Kingm is town, the best thing he can do now is leave Top 3 scum reads and why.

Those reads become very valuable on Day 2.

But the only thing we saw coming was more cracks under pressure..

If i have it wrong i'll take the blame as the "main Wagon Driver" and Homer will be the "Mid-Wagon Joiner"..

(the "Mid-Wagon Joiner" Joins after momentum builds, gives reasonable justification and blends in with town.. This is the most common scum position if the target flips town afterwards.)
Another reason why this flip would crack the game wide open..

But you are clearly the "Wagon Avoider" here (and frankly that does not makes any sense after you played your "Jump Wagon Rider" role the entire day)..

So : you are either his scumbuddy trying to save him or you know already in advance it's a town mislynch..(Scum frequently avoid Day-1 mislynch wagons so they cannot be blamed later.)

Im getting the "something feels off" spidersense

2 red flags : you and Traf.

The Biggest Red Flag is still Trafstard. Silent scum often let town mislynch itself.. And your not questioning's Traf his utter silence here when a D1 lynch is real? On his buddy Kingm? At peak tension? Not one post about the subject - you both just staying silent about it?

What's going on Charle?

[SoN!c]

King, Who are your top 3 scum reads?

1.SoN!c - 2 and 3 = Lurkers

This is just "only SoNic" in the end because im the the wagon leader ands so you claim to have no clue about the other scum whatsoever then "just lurkers"?? Weak response.. Also why not 4 scum? Sounds like scum is protecting the possible 4th scum there..

Who should be lynched tomorrow if you flip town (besides me - let's say i get nightkilled)? (Town players should always leave legacy reads)

If you somehow is dead, then I would say use the info from N1, if no info then kill a lurker, since you are dead in this scenario.

Again your Not naming anybody here...is it because you know who is scum and you don't want them to be lynched?

Why are you not giving names?

[Kingm]

King, Who are your top 3 scum reads?

1.SoN!c - 2 and 3 = Lurkers

This is just "only SoNic" in the end because im the the wagon leader ands so you claim to have no clue about the other scum whatsoever then "just lurkers"?? Weak response.. Also why not 4 scum? Sounds like scum is protecting the possible 4th scum there..

Who should be lynched tomorrow if you flip town (besides me - let's say i get nightkilled)? (Town players should always leave legacy reads)

If you somehow is dead, then I would say use the info from N1, if no info then kill a lurker, since you are dead in this scenario.

Again your Not naming anybody here...is it because you know who is scum and you don't want them to be lynched?

Why are you not giving names?

Ok you want names?
This is the list of players that I hope die one way or another, and its the same reason for all of them. Except you, and I put them in order of when I want them dead.
Cofari, Riskmaster101, general cod, TrafalgarLaw01, strike wolf, SoN!c
.

I still find you must sus, but that because you have talked, those 5 others have done either nothing or close to nothing.

So lets be a bit more wish-washy, since the AFK guys do not get mod killed.

Unvote
Vote Cofari

[annieh]

GG GL townies, I hope you take it down.
Problem is that everyone is voting me, but look at like Sonic and Ragian I think.
At least the hedgehog, because he know me, he knows exactly how I act, this is just king being king, nothing else at all, but you will find out when I'm dead that everything I have said is 100% the truth.

(Bold added by me)

The problem is no matter what you say, it can't be 100% truth because you contradict yourself!

"I can't say what I want because Ms Karen will jump down my throat." Are you serious? Of all the things to accuse me of, discouraging posting is perhaps the most outrageous.

To clear the air a bit. "Jerk statements" was too pejorative. If someone will give me a werewolf-approved acronym for completely unverifiable statements about circumstances outside the game intended to manipulate emotions, I will use that term. I don't think you're a jerk person and I will treat you more sweetly and gently going forward. I will appreciate you not calling me out of my name again as well.

I submit this incident to the kingm suspicions report pile on the basis of name-calling and promotion of infighting are unhelpful distractions. This is another play that could be the same scum-covering thing I was complaining about in the first place.

I'll be back with reads unrelated to kingm before EOD.

[Kingm]

LC, mod kill me please, I guess its not allowed to make jokes and try to be funny in Mafia games.

Like this just get to stupid, I'm out

[annieh]

Oh hey, Loose Canon, are we going by Nordic time or what? Eastern Standard/NYC time over here (^o^)丿

[Kingm]

I did not read it close enough, and responded a bit hasty, like I have done the whole game.

@annieh
I thought you wore going to make a report on me in the forums, but I see now that not what you said at all.
So LC I withdraw the request for mod kill, like a report in game I can take, I took it was to try to give me a ban for namecalling or something like that, yeah 1000% overreaction by me, never ever done that before lol

[SoN!c]

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I might be late to the party, but just answering hjelp here: There's no lynch wagon to analyse when lynching a non-poster. We gain no information about anyone voting for them because everyone's argument is that "we need to get rid of the silent ones." Leave that to the mod. Moreover, silence is not alignment indicative. A LOT of players are silent in this game. What do we have, three players (Cod, Cofari, Riskmaster) that have barely posted, two players (Strike, Traf) that have made a minimum of posts and a handful that have posted almost adequately.
- Take the first batch. Are all of them scum? Obviously not. Might one of them be scum? Of course. We just don't know, and if we mislynch, we're absolutely no better off D2 in terms of analysing players. Also, non-posters are always scrutinised heavily by PRs, so it doesn't really do you any favours to stay completely silent. All I'd say is that if you sign up for a game, you play the game. If you've signed up and gotten into time-related issues (or you don't like what you've signed up for), you contact the mod and get modkilled or, preferably, replaced.
- Take the second batch. Here we start to be able to dig into something in terms of analysis because they want to seem as if they're here without adding anything useful to D1. Strike says he's busy. What can you do? Traf always hates D1, and I've lynched him based on lack of participation in the past with an unlucky outcome (so has Son!c, which is why I'm wary of Son!c blazing against Traf).
- Batch three I think is fair game.

@hjelp, I don't understand your line of duty question. I haven't seen the show. If you're asking if I know Son!c's alignment, then no, of course.

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I've seen someone - can't remember who, might be hjelp, too (RHYME!) - suggesting that I have a friendship with Son!c in this game. I fear that that person hasn't read the game. I think I've been quite vocal in my suspicions of Son!c, but (almost) no one followed, and since I'm here to win as town (which we do by gaining information through flips and play analysis barring any lucky PRs), I had to change targets. Also, a couple of players (King and Charle) claimed without being on the chopping board, effectively prohibiting any further claims D1 (lest we offer up a pick'n'choose buffet for scum).

That said, I like some of Son!c's points, but like Kong (not King) has stated above, Son!c seems to overdo the outcome of any flip that a lynch of King (not Kong) might generate. And I'm still raising an eyebrow as to how Son!c went from calling me "overreaching scum" to saying that I'm almost certainly town...

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Gotta go to work, but I will be back before deadline. However, I'll do a list of players from my point of view (and would love it if everyone could do so given that town thrives in clarity rather than obscurity):

1. strike wolf - Way too silent, but I can't argue with being busy. I'm sure some PRs would target Strike knowing his reputation as an absolute brilliant player. Neutral but wary
2. TrafalgarLaw01 - Seems very Traf-like with his minimum posting adding absolutely nothing to the game. I'd want to lynch him, but it would be policy rather than actual suspicion. Neutral
3. Devante - Similar to Traf, but Devante has at least taken a stand. Obviously, it's the wrong stand, and voting for a non-poster at this crucial stage is a copout. Neutral
4. Ragian - Most handsome town player ever to roam these lands. Should be voted for, but only in the Mr. Handsome Town competition. Town
5. Djfireside - I like the level of participation and I think I've played with DJF ages ago. Came a bit late to the KingM lynching party, but has committed. Leaning town
6. Cofari - No clue, hasn't participated.
7. hjelp - I don't necessarily agree with hjelp (and I'm still reeling from the last upset - Sweden 1 - Denmark 0), but he seems genuine in his attempt to solve the case. Leaning town
8. homer_jay - I would like homer to participate more because his posts seem well thought out and rational. Leaning town
9. Riskmaster101 - No clue, hasn't participated.
10. Kingm - Claimed when under no pressure, and a poor claim to boot, messed up when under pressure. The only thing that could dissuade me from this lynch is if everyone jumped onto my original target. However, if he is indeed a mere VT, we're not suffering a heavy loss as town. Leaning scum
11. Charle - (Semi?)claimed under no pressure and has gone VERY quiet in the last couple of days, which might indicate guilt. Leaning scum
12. kongming3 - Especially the latest post of Kong's sat well with me. I would love for him to participate more. Leaning town
13. SoN!c - Soft-claimed, then got dismissive and OMGUSy when probed. If others hadn't claimed out of the blue and players were willing, this is where my vote would be, but I'm leaving my conviction in order to lynch because I think that lynching is in town's best interest as mentioned, I think, one million times on this site. Leaning scum
14.general cod - No clue, hasn't participated.
15. annieh - Seems to have decent reads and a genuine sense about her posts. And funny. That's always nice. Here's hoping everyone at work has survived... Leaning town

This is a good post, I mean still jsut conjectures cause no one has any info, except maybe scum already know each other, but agree on the general sentiment.
Voting inactives does not help at all.
I do hate D1 and will always vote no lynch unless some way to get info d1 day powers or someone messes up like the prison game.
I believe Sonic and Ragian discussion came from nowhere, neither have any real proof, Sonic likes to tunnel on a player, ragian seems to like to pick on Sonic
Kingm how ever, has been suspicious, jumping from one position to another, swearing on hi mother, not sure to lynch, but would definetivly get why.
No real tell on any other player tbh

[Kingm]

I'm here to please, lol

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I forgot to add Kingm switched to vote Cofari a silent one, even tho it has been discussed it wont get us any info

[TrafalgarLaw01]

TrafalgarLaw01 - Silent-scum special. Zero content, zero defense of his own clan buddy Kingm?? Scum.

This is really dumb, he being my clanmate does nto me he is to be trusted on a mafia game, he could be scum or could be town, as anyone else. So I gotta figure it out and not defending him just cause is on my clan

[SoN!c]

TrafalgarLaw01 - Silent-scum special. Zero content, zero defense of his own clan buddy Kingm?? Scum.

This is really dumb, he being my clanmate does nto me he is to be trusted on a mafia game, he could be scum or could be town, as anyone else. So I gotta figure it out and not defending him just cause is on my clan

That is not why that was posted. And i think you know all to well.. It's about you keeping silence way too long on the Kingm subject.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

TrafalgarLaw01 - Silent-scum special. Zero content, zero defense of his own clan buddy Kingm?? Scum.

This is really dumb, he being my clanmate does nto me he is to be trusted on a mafia game, he could be scum or could be town, as anyone else. So I gotta figure it out and not defending him just cause is on my clan

That is not why that was posted. And i think you know all to well.. It's about you keeping silence way too long on the Kingm subject.

If you read that is not what u posted. Also I dont care abut accusations on D1 to be checking every day

[annieh]

Here we go!

Ragian gets a gold star from me. I agree with a ton of what he says. Very few fishy alarms going off. A major point in his favor was early on in the Sonic beef, when he seemed pretty frustrated, he made a comment asking other experienced players for their take. I really don’t see scum doing that.

SoN!c is a wildcard and I’m uneasy with that. I see a lot of hypocrisy in the accusations coming from him and I see a lot of excess certainty. Is it vigilante style or is that scum cover? Is posting a lot just his thing or is that trying to control the story? While I have these questions, I don’t care day 1, he helps the town. His recaps are accurate, his comments are thought provoking, he has a hefty paper trail. My point is he is solidly in the helpful crew and I do not want to see him lynched. Certificate of Commendation, you can keep it in your mystery drawer.

Hjelp, homer_jay, kongming3: I like ‘em.

Djfireside: I like having him around. Not as much as the last group but that's ok.

TrafalgarLaw01: recent posts have a good flavor.

strike wolf, Devante: The disappointment crew.

Charle would be on the disappointment crew if not for the unpressured claim. Whole dept left wondering, “what the hell was that?”

Kingm, extremely messy game. Doesn’t mean none of his points are valid. My vote is on him.

Cofari, I think he’s been killed. Prayers for Cofari in these dangerous times.

Riskmaster101, general cod are failing in their duty, they are negative helpful, and at the very top of my shit list.

Me: I’m very scared I will be killed tonight. Someone tell me how to not get killed by the crime group or their affiliates tonight.

[SoN!c]

by SoN!c » Tue Mar 10, 2026 10:50 am

"That said; Traf is the king of the silent-scum special: disappear completely D1, let town waste time on active players, then slide in late with "caught up, reads are X" (safe middle road, meaningless reads anyway) like he was here the whole time.. And ends his D1 late show with a "no lynch" vote..."

+Quick but important side note while votes are coming in:
We have 15 alive so majority lynch requires 8 votes.
Right now we have 3 complete ghosts (Cofari, Riskmaster101, general cod) who have basically posted nothing all game.
Do the math:

Assume standard 4 scum.
If those 3 ghosts are town then we have just 8 active voting townies vs 4 active scum.
Town needs perfect 8-out-of-8 agreement every single day going forward just to reach majority (in worst case event they are all 3 town)..

Scum only need to vote together, stay silent, or push a no-lynch for the ghosts doing nothing to completely stall us.

If we no-lynch today and lose even one more townie tonight, we drop to 7 active town voters vs 4 scum. At that point we can literally never lynch again — game is already lost..

That is a massive structural disadvantage for town. The “no personal night powers” rule is nice, but it doesn’t fix the voting imbalance at all.
This is exactly why I’ve been pushing for the highest-information lynch possible right now.

And ofcourse the lycnh should be on a scum. But i don't have a crystal ball..

The evidence points heavily at Kingm (chaos votes, unforced claim, Traf alignment, full meltdown).
His flip gives us the most clarity we can get today.

[Kingm]

by SoN!c » Tue Mar 10, 2026 10:50 am

"That said; Traf is the king of the silent-scum special: disappear completely D1, let town waste time on active players, then slide in late with "caught up, reads are X" (safe middle road, meaningless reads anyway) like he was here the whole time.. And ends his D1 late show with a "no lynch" vote..."

+Quick but important side note while votes are coming in:
We have 15 alive so majority lynch requires 8 votes.
Right now we have 3 complete ghosts (Cofari, Riskmaster101, general cod) who have basically posted nothing all game.
Do the math:

Assume standard 4 scum.
If those 3 ghosts are town then we have just 8 active voting townies vs 4 active scum.
Town needs perfect 8-out-of-8 agreement every single day going forward just to reach majority (in worst case event they are all 3 town)..

Scum only need to vote together, stay silent, or push a no-lynch for the ghosts doing nothing to completely stall us.

If we no-lynch today and lose even one more townie tonight, we drop to 7 active town voters vs 4 scum. At that point we can literally never lynch again — game is already lost..

That is a massive structural disadvantage for town. The “no personal night powers” rule is nice, but it doesn’t fix the voting imbalance at all.
This is exactly why I’ve been pushing for the highest-information lynch possible right now.

And ofcourse the lycnh should be on a scum. But i don't have a crystal ball..

The evidence points heavily at Kingm (chaos votes, unforced claim, Traf alignment, full meltdown).
His flip gives us the most clarity we can get today.

So this is a very townish post in my eyes, and since we maybe are on the same side, let me try again, if you lynch me, then you are in the 7v4 sceanario that you called lost game, so do you want to loose us this game punk, well do you?

[Djfireside]

King you could always make a formal claim but Irrational Dirty Harry works too.

I was thinking about what Annie noted yesterday and in reading the post by Son!c, I see your point on lynching an active while we have many inactives. We have a little over a day left and there are enough active people I think to warrant a push and I think it should be General Cod for the following reason.

1) True Inactives: Cofari and General Cod.
2) KingM still is high on my radar. They recently joined on to hit Cofari maybe cause it had devante on there and was the next best thing but I dont follow my suspects lead.
3) Annie unvoted King to Vote Cod as an inactive push and returned despite the ease of just sliding away if aligned with King so I know they are not aligned, based on current knowledge will trust their choices on Cod.
4) Cod logged in today and has taken turns so its not an absence thing. I also will not entertain the "It's not fair to speed lynch" statement. You had 2 weeks to say hi.

They are effectively in the middle of a drug deal. Are they under cover or are they guilty, they havent checked in so we have no clue which side so roll in and see what happens. I think its sound given the current situation and maybe will force them to show their face and if not no loss cause no possible gain.

I dont have enough probable cause on KingM and suspicious behavior is just that but not a crime so UNVOTE

It appears there is a shake down going on across town. Drug bust. 10-999 All units respond? VOTE General Cod