GOD KNOWS CRYPTOZOOLOGY IS REAL!!!!!!!

[ConfederateSS]

-----------WINDY........things clicking on and off.....BACK IN ACTION... ...ALREADY KNEW THE HEBREW WORDS...I write,before typing.......
------------------------Some Scholars Identify THE REEM....With The AUROCHS...An Extinct WILD OX that stood nearly 2 meters tall....And was known THROUGHOUT
------------------------THE ANCIENT WORLD..........
------------------------For it's FEROCITY...THE LAST AUROCH(might be spelled with the "S") DIED in 1627 A.D...,IN POLAND....But even The AUROCHS may not fully explain
------------------------The BIBLICAL DESCRIPTION...Because The BIBLE speaks of The RE'EM as something more scary than on OX...There is a fascinating RABBINICAL LEGEND
------------------------about THE REEM...AND NOAH'S ARK...THE REEM was simply too large to fit inside(I believe 300 miles long)...So NOAH tied it to the outside of The ARK,
------------------------and let it swim along side the ship...With only it's nose above water...Connected by rope to The ARK, tied to it's HORN...Think about that...A
------------------------CREATURE so HUGE...That it couldn't fit in The ARK...MADE TO FIT EVERY CREATURE ON EARTH...A CREATURE no Human could ever tame or control,
------------------------The REEM reminds us...That GOD'S creation was never meant to be FULLY DOMESTICATED BY Man...There were forces and creatures in The WORLD
------------------------That were meant to remain WILD...FREE and UNDER GOD'S AUTHORITY ALONE...
-----------------------------BUT CREATURE NUMBER # 7.......
------------------------SAVED THIS FOR LAST...BECAUSE IT WILL COMPLETELY CHANGE THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND THE BOOK OF GENESIS,EVERY SUNDAY SCHOOL LESSON,
------------------------EVERY PAINTING, EVERY MOVIE ABOUT THE GARDEN of EDEN...SHOWS US THE SAME THING, A SNAKE WRAPPED AROUND A TREE...
------------------------TEMPTING EVE WITH AN APPLE...BUT THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXT REVELS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...SOMETHING HIDDEN IN PLAIN
------------------------SIGHT ...FOR 1,000's of YEARS...In GENESIS 3---1......The HEBREW word Translated as SERPENT as NACHASH...and This Is
------------------------WHERE EVERYTHING CHANGES........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[ConfederateSS]

--------------The HEBREW ROOT NACHASH has 3 different meanings...Depending on How it is used...As A NOUN, it can mean SERPENT...that is the traditional
------------------------Translation ....
------------------------As a VERB, it means to PRACTICE DIVINATION...Or to ENCHANT....It is used this way in GENESIS 44---15...and NUMBERS 24---1...But here is THE MOST
------------------------SHOCKING MEANING...AS AN ADJECTIVE...NACHASH....IS RELATED TO THE HEBREW WORD---NACHOSHET...Which means BRONZE or COPPER...It
------------------------describes something that is BRIGHT, SHINING, and LUMINOUS...THE CREATURE IN THE GARDEN of EDEN was not A SERPENT,it was The SHINING ONE...
------------------------The LUMINOUS ENCHANTER...This was not a simple garden snake...THIS WAS A RADIANT BRILLIANT CREATURE, that walked upright,and spoke with
------------------------Intelligence...How do we know it walked upright(already put in PI/pie day thread earlier), ---BECAUSE of GOD'S IN ***GENESIS(3:14)***-----
------------------------CURSED ARE YOU ABOVE ALL LIVESTOCK and ALL WILD ANIMALS...YOU WILL CRAWL ON YOUR BELLY,AND YOU WILL EAT DUST ALL THE DAYS of YOUR LIFE..
------------------------ If The NACHASH was already crawling on it's belly, then this curse makes no sense...
------------------------You do not curse something to do what they are already doing...The Curse only makes sense if The NACHASH was previously standing upright...GOD
------------------------fundamentally changed what this creature was...And here is a detail that ties things together...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

That is a stretch, ConFedSs. Not COGENT.

[ConfederateSS]

-------------------------Do you remember The TANNINIM???...The SERPENTINE SEA MONSTERS From GENESIS 1---21???
-------------------------Do you remember The SERAPHIM, The FIERY SERPENTS that GOD sent against The ISRAELITES...In NUMBERS 21 when people were DYING...
-------------------------From The VENOM of those Serpents...GOD told MOSES to make a BRONZE SERPENT, and put it on a POLE, and in NUMBERS 21---9,we read that
-------------------------MOSES made a NACHASH NECHOSHE a Serpent of BRONZE the same root words...NACHASH NECHOSHE The SHINING SERPENT...1,000s of years
-------------------------later, JESUS HIMSELF pointed back to this moment in JOHN 3---14, HE said,"JUST AS MOSES LIFTED UP THE SNAKE IN THE WILDERNESS, So THE
-------------------------of MAN must be lifted up..."...
------------------------- The BRONZE SERPENT ON THE POLE, WAS A PICTURE of CHRIST on The CROSS...The same word that describes THE DECEIVER IN EDEN...
-------------------------Becomes The SYMBOL of SALVATION...The SHINING ONE WHO BROUGHT DEATH IN THE GARDEN...IS ANSWERED BY THE SAVIOR...WHO BRINGS
-------------------------LIFE on The CROSS...This is not a coincidence...This is GOD writing a story across 1,000s of years...Now connects this with EZEKIEL 28...Where
-------------------------the PROPHET describes A BEING in EDEN, you were in EDEN THE GARDEN of GOD, Every Precious stone adorned you...CARNELIAN,
-------------------------CHRYSOLITE, EMERALD, TOPAZ, ONYX,JASPER,LAPIS,LAZULI,TURQUOISE,and BERYL...Your settings and Mountings were made of GOLD on the day
-------------------------you were created...They were prepared , you were anointed as a GUARDIAN CHERUB, you were on The HOLY MOUNT of GOD...You waited among
-------------------------The Fiery STONES...You were blameless in your ways...From the day you were created...Till wickedness was found in you...EZEKIEL 28(13-15)...
-------------------------A Shining Being in EDEN,adorned with 9 precious stones, walking among fiery stones...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

I referenced this bronze serpent (man-made) already. And John 3:14.

This is THE PROBLEM of splitting the discussion over multiple threads. Not coherent; Sounds familiar.

[ConfederateSS]

---------ALREADY HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN......MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD WAIT, ALSO SEVERE WEATHER IN THE AREA....
--------------------NOT LIKE PEOPLE CAN JUST READ THE NEXT POST....WELL MOST PEOPLE........ ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

Sorry, I thought it was a big hairy creature, not a radiant brilliant one?
As I said in the other thread, the curse can apply equally well to other situations apart from upright.

[ConfederateSS]

------------------Created blameless but then wickedness was found in it...And Then ISAIAH 14 reveals the moment of REBELLION...How you have already fallen
------------------------from HEAVEN...Morning Star,SON of The DAWN...You said in your heart I will ascend to The HEAVENS...I will raise my Throne above THE STARS of GOD...
------------------------I will sit in Enthrowned on The Mount of Assembly...I will ascend above the tops of the clouds, I will make myself like The MOST HIGH...But you are
------------------------brought down to the realm of The Dead...To the depths of The Pit---ISAIAH 14(12-15), 5 times this BEING says," I WILL",this is THE ANATOMY of
------------------------REBELLION...The Moment where THE SHINING ONE, decided that being a creature was not enough, IT WANTED TO BE GOD...SO WHAT WAS THE
------------------------CREATURE THAT TEMPTED EVE???...
------------------------It wasn't a talking garden snake...IT WAS A BRILLIANT SHINING UPRIGHT BEING of ENORMOUS BEAUTY and INTELLIGENCE(something Red Pen lacks ),
------------------------A BEING that had been in EDEN,before HUMANITY,A BEING that GOD had created and chose to REBEL, The NACHASH was the most dangerous creature
------------------------GOD ever made...
----------------------------Not because of it's size , like BEHEMOTH,not because of it's fire,like LEVIATHAN, But because of it's BEAUTY,It's Intelligence and it's ability to
-------------------------Deceive , and The most terrifying thing of all,according to REVELATION 12---9,that ANCIENT SERPENT, that original NACHASH IS STILL ACTIVE TODAY...
-------------------------THE GREAT DRAGON WAS HURLED DOWN, THAT ANCIENT SERPENT CALLED DEVIL...OR SATAN, WHO LEADS THE WORLD ASTRAY...The CREATURE from
-------------------------the garden is still here,STILL SHINING, STILL DECEIVING , and it was created before you...So what will happen to all these creatures in THE END...
-------------------------------Does The BIBLE tell us their FATE???,The Answer is YES and it's EXTRAORDINARY , ISAIAH 27----1...Gives us The 1st Answer,in that day The LORD
--------------------------will punish with HIS sword...HIS FIERCE GREAT and POWERFUL SWORD...LEVIATHAN The Gliding Serpent,the coiling Serpent...HE will slay The
-------------------------MONSTER of THE SEA...THIS A FUTURE EVENT...THE SEA of CHAOS WILL NO LONGER EXIST...
----------------------------GOD WILL SERVE UP THE CREATURES IN A HUGE BANQUET...LEVIATHAN , BEHEMOTH, ZIZ,...NACHASH(DEVIL) WILL BURN IN A POOL OF FIRE
----------------------------------FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[ConfederateSS]

--------------The HEBREW ROOT NACHASH has 3 different meanings...Depending on How it is used...As A NOUN, it can mean SERPENT...that is the traditional
------------------------Translation ....
------------------------As a VERB, it means to PRACTICE DIVINATION...Or to ENCHANT....It is used this way in GENESIS 44---15...and NUMBERS 24---1...But here is THE MOST
------------------------SHOCKING MEANING...AS AN ADJECTIVE...NACHASH....IS RELATED TO THE HEBREW WORD---NACHOSHET...Which means BRONZE or COPPER...It
------------------------describes something that is BRIGHT, SHINING, and LUMINOUS...THE CREATURE IN THE GARDEN of EDEN was not A SERPENT,it was The SHINING ONE...
------------------------The LUMINOUS ENCHANTER...This was not a simple garden snake...THIS WAS A RADIANT BRILLIANT CREATURE, that walked upright,and spoke with
------------------------Intelligence...How do we know it walked upright(already put in PI/pie day thread earlier), ---BECAUSE of GOD'S IN ***GENESIS(3:14)***-----
------------------------CURSED ARE YOU ABOVE ALL LIVESTOCK and ALL WILD ANIMALS...YOU WILL CRAWL ON YOUR BELLY,AND YOU WILL EAT DUST ALL THE DAYS of YOUR LIFE..
------------------------ If The NACHASH was already crawling on it's belly, then this curse makes no sense...
------------------------You do not curse something to do what they are already doing...The Curse only makes sense if The NACHASH was previously standing upright...GOD
------------------------fundamentally changed what this creature was...And here is a detail that ties things together...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

----------------The Creature wasn't a snake/serpent....KING JAMES BIBLE...moved the ADAM and EVE,report,Start of Man...from Jewish(Hebrew)...To Latin.../ ENGLISH...
--------------------That's where the creature who tricks Eve...Is Standing up right,original version,...,Then changed, to curled around the tree of life,like a snake/serpent...Latin /English version......In the original version...The Serpent in The Garden of Eden...Was standing upright,no other way, when tricking EVE...The true fact,but lost over time...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

You said you were going to answer me in this thread. Would you mind doing so in coherent English please?
BTW Nothing in the bible counts as a "True Fact".

[mookiemcgee]

Would you mind doing so in coherent English please?

You are barking up the wrong tree my friend

[Pack Rat]

Would you mind doing so in coherent English please?

You are barking up the wrong tree my friend

Right now these Trump cult followers are just distracting from the many real issues facing Americans.

My God! Trump is begging CHINA, France and UK to help us in the Persian Gulf...can I repeat CHINA! What a fukn mess the Middle East is.

[Apatheist]

Would you mind doing so in coherent English please?

You are barking up the wrong tree my friend

Right now these Trump cult followers are just distracting from the many real issues facing Americans.

My God! Trump is begging CHINA, France and UK to help us in the Persian Gulf...can I repeat CHINA! What a fukn mess the Middle East is.

I suggest you post that in the appropriate thread and keep it out of this one, which is hard enough to make sense of as it is.
This is for debating whether the made-up stuff in the bible is even more made-up than some people thought it was.
In my guiding text, it says:
The ravenous bug-blatter beast of Traal is so mind-bogglingly stupid that it thinks if you can't see it, it can't see you.

Now, imagine if WW3 does happen, and that's the only book that survives into the future. That's what people might believe was given to them by a deity to show the true meaning. Frankly, I find it no less credible than the Adam & Eve story, which at its absolute best can only ever be allegorical, and is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any unusual creatures.

[Pack Rat]

So....we are debating about fairytales? We might as well debate whether Trump is doing the Lord's work.

[Dukasaur]

We have enough threads for that.

[ConfederateSS]

----------------Pack Rat, has there ever been a more MYTHICAL CREATURE...Than "THE DONALD" ...Anyway back to more important stuff...
--------------------THE LOCH NESS MONSTER(Nessie)...More than 1???...Seen(reported) 1st by Mankind back in 565 A.D....By St.Columba...Could be a Plesiosaur...
-------------------Under the water is a cavern, that might have a path to the open ocean...Why NESSIE is only seen from time to time...
-----------------------TO AN AMERICAN...LEGEND who seen a Great Thing...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[ConfederateSS]

------------------THE OZARK HOWLER......
---------------------I'll tell how I found this in a minute...
-----------------------So it has been seen over time, most records were lost....BUT ONE GREAT AMERICAN DANIEL BOONE SEEN THE CREATURE ONCE BACK IN THE 1800s A.D...
-------------------Just like Michelangelo wouldn't lie...Neither would Daniel Boone...
-------------------Living around The Ozark Mountains...The Ozark Howler...Is a beast...bear sized , shaggy black beast, with horns and glowing red eyes...This thing that happened to me in Michigan...Is why I started looking things/animals up...Because of what I one day came across...I AM SUPER FOR REAL, MY HAND TO GOD and Jefferson Davis...(Evil,others,not only white people fought for THE C.S.A.,F.Y.I.,Evil knows why I said that)...
-------------------So I am searching through animals....BECAUSE ONE DAY LAST SUMMER...
--------------------------------- MONSTERS EXIST -----------------------------
------------------------So JULY 17th, 2025 A.D...The only time I was ever truely afraid, TERRORFIED...It was Mid- July...I was going from Southwest Detroit,Then Through Lincoln Park,to Westland, Michigan...Via...Fort st,to Champaign,to Pellam,to Wick,to Inkster,to Beverly,to Wayne rd...On Beverly to Wayne....Between Middlebelt and Merriman rds...Which on both sides is wooded areas...BIG TIME......I seen something...I was riding my bike(regular pedal bike)...When I was between Middlebelt and Merriman,before Romulus Elementry School...I wasn't up to Merriman yet...I heard something...I was just pedaling normal...I turned and looked...I saw something walking out of the woods...It was around 10:00/1030pm...Because I didn't reach Westland until 11:00pmish....Bank clock....The creature moved under the street light...It's body looked as big as a Mini-Van(90s)....It was a Black figure,walking on all fours...It had glowing red eyes...I don't know what it was...I have seen bears at the zoo...IT WASN'T A BEAR,there are no bears in this part of Michigan,because of the cities I guess,Detroit,Taylor,THE AIRPORT,etc,etc......After walking out of the woods,looking at me, it turned ,walking away from me...If I had been 5 minutes slower, it would of walked right into me....The direction, I just came from....I pedaled so fast, smoke came from my bike chain(I don't know why,maybe the wd40 was burning off...)....I didn't stop until ,Wayne rd and Van Born, traffic/traffic light....I looked back...nothing ...WHEW ...GOD protects me....All those lucky pennies I pick up, a bonus.....
---------------------------I know what it sounds like,...All those people who seen Bigfoot...I get it...I get it.......I'M A BELIEVER.....Wait till it happens to you...MAY GOD PROTECT YOU...ALWAYS... ...I don't know if what I saw had horns,I seen something huge,black,hairy,glowing red eyes, I got the F*CK out of there...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Apatheist]

Sir David Attenborough, the most distinguished naturalist, says that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist - that's good enough for me.
There's also been an admission that the footprints found by the loch were a hoax, as of course was the most famous photo.

I would respectfully suggest that you stop taking whatever it is that makes you write this way, because it seems to be giving you hallucinations. Maybe you saw someone in fancy dress, maybe you saw an usual bear or wolf. Would a creature you describe venture anywhere near urban Detroit?
Since now pretty much everyone has a camera on them at all times, there's no reason not to have pictures of these things (although of course they're easily faked now).
There's also more than one tv show (I imagine each channel has their own) where people debunk myths about aliens and monsters - on Fact or Faked, they showed that the Muck Monster was a dugong; remember that the mermaid myth has been ascribed to delirious (and probably horny) sailors seeing dugongs or manatees and claiming them to be half-female.

[ConfederateSS]

--------------Maybe David A. didn't find The Loch Ness Monster..........Because The Loch, connects to the ocean , like I said.....Maybe there is more than one monster...Maybe The Loch, is their breeding ground...Or their summer home...etc...etc...They live in The Oceans...We know more about OUTER SPACE,than we do, about what lies in our oceans here on EARTH...Just The MARIANA TRENCH ITSELF IS DEEP ,we can't go all the way down, our stuff would be crushed...
------------------As for The Ozark Howler, or what I saw.....Maybe it was looking for MICHIGAN'S HAIRIEST BEAST....CONGRESSMAN RASHIDA TLAIB...for a date...If you are a regular GUTFELD watcher, you will really get that joke... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

And we have NO PROOF. Occam's Razor strikes again.

All the "proof" ConfedSS posts and NO one believes him.

All these "monsters" and nearly everyone walking around with a camera and video recorder on them and often in their hands AND there is NOT ONE credible photograph nor video? How do we EXPLAIN THAT? Apply Occam's Razor: there are NO such "monster."

Extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary proof. We have NO proof, not even ordinary proof.

I think ConfedSS was drunk when he saw his "monster." And all he can offer as a plausible explanation is "maybe" and more "maybes" and false interpretations of art in the "16th" Chapel.

[ConfederateSS]

--------......Like Jp4fun likes proof......OUR OCEANS ARE FULL OF THINGS 100s of MiLLION YEARS OLD......Take The COELACANTH.....still lives, caught sometimes by fisherman....So WHY NOT NESSIE, LOCH NESS MONSTERS....PLESIOSAURS.......
--------------------ARE YOU STILL O.K....what David A..so stupidly said??? ....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[ConfederateSS]

---------------NOT TO FORGET.....SHARKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER IN THE OCEANS.......PROOF...PROOF....BLAH,BLAH....PROOF.........
-------------------MY EYES ARE THE ONLY PROOF I NEED....I WAS ON MY BIKE FOR LIKE 12 HOURS....
-----------------------------FOR A F*CKWAD...RED PEN............ONLY A F*CKWAD LIKE YOU WOULD DRIVE ANYTHING DRUNK.......GO BACK TO YOUR CLASSROOM.....F*CKWAD... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[jusplay4fun]

---------------[size=200 NOT TO FORGET.....SHARKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER IN THE OCEANS.......PROOF...PROOF....BLAH,BLAH....PROOF.........
-------------------MY EYES ARE THE ONLY PROOF I NEED....I WAS ON MY BIKE FOR LIKE 12 HOURS....
-----------------------------FOR A F*CKWAD...RED PEN............ONLY A F*CKWAD LIKE YOU WOULD DRIVE ANYTHING DRUNK.......GO BACK TO YOUR CLASSROOM.....F*CKWAD... [/size]... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Calm down, ConfedSs. Are you going to have a civil discussion or will you continue to throw out insults and personal attack?

And again, you offer NO proof of "monsters" just hypothetical "links." Again, you offer NO PROOF. Wow, this sound so familiar.

And what proof is there in riding a bike for 12 hours? That is proof of a sore BUTT, BUT not of much else.

[jusplay4fun]

--------......[size=20 Like Jp4fun likes proof......OUR OCEANS ARE FULL OF THINGS 100s of MiLLION YEARS OLD......Take The COELACANTH.....still lives, caught sometimes by fisherman....So WHY NOT NESSIE, LOCH NESS MONSTERS....PLESIOSAURS.......
--------------------ARE YOU STILL O.K....what David A..so stupidly said??? [/size]....... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Yes, I want PROOF: Extraordinary CLAIMS (such as for "monsters" such as Nessie and Bigfoot) DEMAND extraordinary proof.

You, ConfedSs, provide NO SUCH proof, merely LOTS of incoherence, many ellipses, conjecture, hypotheses, connect-the-dots "reasoning" and rumors of "monster."

Just because Coelacanths have been discovered does NOT prove the existence of a LIVING Nessie or a living plesiosaur.

and from AI:

To explore whether the Loch Ness Monster is a plesiosaur, consider the following points:

The Loch Ness Monster is often described as a large, long-necked creature resembling a plesiosaur.

Plesiosaurs were marine reptiles that lived during the Mesozoic era, long before humans existed.

No credible evidence has been found to confirm the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.

Many sightings of the creature have been debunked as hoaxes or misidentifications of common animals.

The scientific community largely views the Loch Ness Monster as a myth rather than a living plesiosaur.

The idea of a surviving plesiosaur raises questions about its survival in a freshwater environment.

[Apatheist]

Yes, our oceans are full of old things...but that's the point, there are loads of them, not one plesiosaur that lived for 66 million years.
I think Sir David has more of a handle on what's in the natural world than you do.
We don't know more about outer space than we do about the oceans. There's a lot of ocean unexplored, true, but there's whole galaxies out there that we know nothing about.
If you're cycling for 12 hours, you'll be pretty tired. That's the equivalent of a Tour de France stage. Perhaps you were a bit dehydrated?