There are many Atheists that I know personally that are quite the opposite of you Strider. This is good to know.Strider24 wrote:Oh also my RE teacher was the est. and only a couple of weeks ago did i find out he is an Atheist. And because i don't "have" a religion i really it makes learning about other religions evern better as i am more open. I owe alot to my teacher.
I know 3 secondary school RE teachers. They are all atheists. I'm not entirely sure thats not because teaching has a bias towards liberalism which in itself is biased towards secularism. Without being able to know the statistics of the profession as a whole its impossible to tell.Strider24 wrote:Oh also my RE teacher was the est. and only a couple of weeks ago did i find out he is an Atheist. And because i don't "have" a religion i really it makes learning about other religions evern better as i am more open. I owe alot to my teacher.
A debate isn't necessary here the definition suffices. Theory: a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Dictionary.comAlgyTaylor wrote:Care to debate the Theory of Gravity with me? Or Pythagoras' Theorum?CrazyAnglican wrote:Any theory is, by its nature, unproven, and which is more likely to be truthful is often the subject of lively debate.
The word "theory" does not imply that it only exists in theory
That's the FOURTH definition, and is rather deceptive.CrazyAnglican wrote: A Theorem, however, is different:
Theorem, an idea, belief, method, or statement generally accepted as true or worthwhile without proof. Dicitionary.com
Yes, it was the fourth definition. That's the one that seemed to apply. I wasn't trying to be deceptive, though. All I meant was that a theory wasn't the same thing as a theorem.btownmeggy wrote:That's the FOURTH definition, and is rather deceptive.CrazyAnglican wrote: A Theorem, however, is different:
Theorem, an idea, belief, method, or statement generally accepted as true or worthwhile without proof. Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theorem
Yeah, I just meant that "without proof" means something very different in mathematics and science than in everyday talk. I didn't necessarily mean that you were being purposely deceptive, just that that definition is perhaps not very representative of what a theorem actually is.CrazyAnglican wrote: Mathematics. a theoretical proposition, statement, or formula embodying something to be proved from other propositions or formulas.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theorem
I hear this phrase used a lot, but when I press a little further people here usually tell me that there is no universal good or bad. Instead they say it's a "consensus" of morality that has developed over the years.XenHu wrote:I will try and teach them basic right from wrong, and in the course doing so, be un-biased as possible.
From what I've read on this website...there are always limits to how far someone will go on any given subject that we discuss.The1exile wrote:IMO it's based on how good a reason you have for justifying your actions.luns101 wrote:I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your post, but rather pointing out that people do believe that there's a basic standard of ethics.
Good point Luns. Do I believe there to be a basic standard of ethics? Yes? Do I follow them? Not at all. But I want my children to know their options. Yes, there is a basic right from wrong. But that doesn't mean I'll force them to follow it.luns101 wrote:I hear this phrase used a lot, but when I press a little further people here usually tell me that there is no universal good or bad. Instead they say it's a "consensus" of morality that has developed over the years.XenHu wrote:I will try and teach them basic right from wrong, and in the course doing so, be un-biased as possible.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your post, but rather pointing out that people do believe that there's a basic standard of ethics.
Good point. I guess what I was saying to Unriggable was that being unproven doesn't immediately make an item unusable for educational purposes. If it did, we'd have a lot of unemployed history & literature teachers.btownmeggy wrote:Yeah, I just meant that "without proof" means something very different in mathematics and science than in everyday talk. I didn't necessarily mean that you were being purposely deceptive, just that that definition is perhaps not very representative of what a theorem actually is.CrazyAnglican wrote: Mathematics. a theoretical proposition, statement, or formula embodying something to be proved from other propositions or formulas.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theorem
